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2012 national defense act craps on the US Constitution.

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« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2011, 05:49:49 pm »

I'm not sure what you mean when you say you side with the President. Do you mean you support the administration's language that didn't exclude US citizens?
But maybe I missed the part about US citizens.

Oy...your insanity is turning into gibberish! No, I don't. btw - There is no "administration's language that didn't exclude US citizens". Never has been, never will be, as much as your comrades want there to be. Why do you think the Administration wrote this bill?

Nutty, et al, will be pleased to see this:


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The bill no longer authorizes the indefinite military detention of Americans captured in the US. That authority was removed from the Senate bill by a compromise amendment that stated nothing in the bill was intended to change existing authority on detention. While Senators such as Carl Levin (D-Mich.) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC) argue that the president already has the authority to do so based on the 2004 Supreme Court decision Hamdi v. Rumsfeld, that case involved an American captured in Afghanistan. The Supreme Court has not yet weighed in on the constitutionality of indefinite military detention of Americans suspected of terrorism who are apprehended in the US.
 
The bill does mandate military detention for non-citizens. A bipartisan group of Senators approved provisions mandating military detention for non-citizens who are apprehended in the US and are suspected of "substantial" ties to Al Qaeda or affiliated groups, absent a waiver from the department of defense. Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, the Director of National Intelligence, the head of the FBI, and even former Bush officials have all said the provision would hamper counterterrorism efforts. Civil liberties groups, meanwhile, charge that it would violate longstanding prohibitions on the military enforcing domestic law. The administration has threatened to veto the bill over this provision.

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