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« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2012, 09:20:57 am »

Talking Points Memo is a 501c too.

As for the schooling, it looks like still, everything I said was correct.  You have not peeled back one point that I made.  Instead you went and reposted the same points I discredited. 

But it's OK, I'm patient.  I'll wait for the apology!

amazing.. when proven wrong, you just resort to changing your argument and pretending that was your argument from jump..

sorry, your argument was ""Gingrich is for mandates but he's not representative on that issue. "

after having it pointed out to you  that you were oh so wrong, you've decided your argument is now.."I had already said there hadn't been Republican support for an individual mandate since 1994,"

even still, you were proven wrong with the 2 introductions of the Wyden bill, which did have a mandate as explained..and most importantly did have GOP support..

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Healthy Americans Act - Requires each adult individual to have the opportunity to purchase a Healthy Americans Private Insurance Plan (HAPI). Makes individuals who are not enrolled in another specified health plan and who are not opposed to coverage for religious reasons responsible for enrolling themselves and their dependent children in a HAPI plan offered through their state of residence. Sets forth penalties for failure to enroll."

That is not a 'tax'.. that is a penalty for not getting insured, no different from Obama's 'mandate'...

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"Subtitle F: Shared Responsibility for Health Care - Part I: Individual Responsibility - (Sec. 1501, as modified by section 10106) Requires individuals to maintain minimal essential health care coverage beginning in 2014. Imposes a penalty for failure to maintain such coverage beginning in 2014, except for certain low-income individuals who cannot afford coverage, members of Indian tribes, and individuals who suffer hardship. Exempts from the coverage requirement individuals who object to health care coverage on religious grounds, individuals not lawfully present in the United States, and individuals who are incarcerated."

Odd that you are calling the Wyden bill a 'tax' but you argue Obama's same 'mandate' isn't.. just more proof that you're  hyper-partisan and hypocritical..


and BTW, the wydenn bill did have GOP support both times it was intro'd as shown.. my position,which has never changed, was also correct..  the GOP liked the mandate until Obama, and that was proven by the bills listed that had GOP support up until Obama used it and then no GOP support..

as for the site, can you prove it's biased? then who cares if it holds the same status and TP..  the definition of a 501 (c)(3) is

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501(c)(3) — Religious, Educational, Charitable, Scientific, Literary, Testing for Public Safety, to Foster National or International Amateur Sports Competition, or Prevention of Cruelty to Children or Animals Organizations

who gives a shit..all that means is it has tax-exemptions...  none of that proves hyper-partisan.. you just don't like the site because it proves your original argument and this new one, wrong... well, too bad.. facts hurt like that.

you will get no apology since you haven't been proven correct on any argument you've made.. your points have been weighed,measured and found lacking...whether that be the original one that you've now back away from since you found yourself in error, or the second one you've now adopted in some desperate attempt to get some points for knowing something about this issue..  
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