Once Again

[reverend_darth]

Obama's starting to cave in the negotiations.  Could someone tell him that he fuckin won the election!

[uselesslegs]

Yea, I read something where he's going to extend the non tax increase to those making 400k or less, instead of the previous income of 250k and less...and *adjust* SS "cost of living" for some of the bump.  

I understand he wants to make this work, reach an accord...but Jesus Christ man...SS? It should be no where near the table.  He's the centrist middle man, I get it...he's not the magical progressive everyone wanted...but dude...grow some balls.

[ekg]

yeah, he's also offering to let the payroll tax expire.. the mother  'middle class tax cut' of them all..

what the utter fuck is he thinking?  is he hedging now for a 'gun ban' ware later?  I should have known when he let Rice back out the of Sec of State nomination.. he let John McCain's insanity scare him into choosing exactly who McCain wanted him to chose so that Kerry's seat can go up for a vote and possibly turn (R)..

"I understand that I don't expect the Republicans simply to adopt my budget," he said during his post-election news conference last month. "That's not realistic. So, I recognize we're going to have to compromise."

um, you won the election by running on certain plan. you were not ambiguous about your plan, it was weighed, it was measured, and it was loudly accepted... what the fuck are you doing giving it up?

if he pusses out...there goes HRC 2016..

[Howey]

It'll never fly beause of this.

Republicans are in shock that President Obama is insisting that benefits for disabled people and veterans not be cut, while House Republicans are coming out against a fiscal cliff deal.

An important detail was buried four paragraphs from the bottom of the New York Times write up of Obama’s latest fiscal cliff proposal, “The president is also insisting on some protections for what he has called the “most vulnerable populations,” which Republican aides said they had not been expecting. The new inflation calculations, for instance, would probably not affect wounded

Supplemental Security Income. And Mr. Obama is sticking by his request for additional upfront spending on infrastructure and an extension of expiring unemployment benefits.”

Republicans were actually taken by surprise by the fact that Obama won’t go along with cutting benefits for disabled veterans. Let that sink in for a minute. Republicans fully expected this president, the Democratic Party, and the American people to support a benefits cut for disabled veterans.

Although, Speaker Boehner claims negotiations with the president, he is also moving forward on his own “Plan B.” The Boehner plan is a right wing fantasy that has absolutely zero chance of passing the Senate, and a less than zero chance of being signed by President Obama.

[ekg]

the irony here is that while my grandfather was dying, in the days before it was so inevitable, we had all gathered around.. while taking smoke breaks I had to listen to my crazy 'sarah palin' aunt's new husband rail on the tax hike Obama will force onto the middle, while letting the wealthy escape again..

I called him nuts.. I said Obama won on a campaign all about taxing the 2%, not the middle.. he won loud and clear.. the GOP will have to cave..

I guess I was the one who was nuts..

fucker..

The payroll tax cut that boosted paychecks for millions of working Americans over the past two years may be on the brink of extinction.

As Republicans and Democrats search for a plan to avert a fiscal cliff, it's looking more likely that the payroll tax holiday introduced under President Obama in 2010 won't be extended. Should this benefit expire, 125 million households would see their paychecks shrink, the Tax Policy Center estimates.

 That's a far bigger slice of the population than the group of Americans who would be affected by proposed income tax hikes. If taxes are raised on incomes exceeding $250,000, roughly 2.8 million households would be impacted. Meanwhile, a mere 368,000 Americans would feel a tax hit if rates rise on incomes above $1 million.

Letting the payroll tax break expire shouldn't come as a big surprise: Obama introduced the payroll tax cut as a temporary measure to stimulate the economy. But nothing is set in stone, and a revival of the tax break -- or some form of it -- isn't out of the question.

the rest ..  http://money.cnn.com/2012/12/19/pf/taxes/payroll-tax-cut/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

[reverend_darth]

Boehner is just fuckin bat shit nuts and a god damned meglomaniac.  So I'm making $400,000 (which we all know means I'm really making $500,000) and I'm not going to expand my successful business because of $20,000 in increased taxes?  Bullshit!  I'm going to expand my business because I want more fuckin money because my cocksuckin trophy wife spends it like water and I want a new Cessna to fly my buddies to the Bahamas for golf.

[Howey]

More on the chained CPI: Obama put a clause in there to not have it means tested so the poor will be ok.