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« on: May 10, 2011, 09:28:30 pm » |
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BTW... let's be clear.
I"m good with giving the president whatever he needs at his disposal to get the information from someone in a ticking-bmb scenario... ya know, the 'jack bauer' scenario.. I see no problem with it. THE problem is, don't tell me it's raining when I'm watching you piss on my back. IOW, don't tell me that what you did wasn't torture when it is and has been up until you decided to use it and you waved your magic wand to make it legal for you to use. No, that doesn't work. Don't lie about it, stand up and back-up your actions, take a chance, tell the truth for once..
it's the lies that made the whole thing back-fire.. the Bush people could have used every reason for waterboading as a reason why they wanted to use it without lying about it not being torture in the 1st place, coming off the 'no wmd' lies, the country wasn't ready to let them be lied to again.. hence the push-back.
if you must do it to save lives, then you must be willing to take the heat for that action.. the lying about it and changing the definition, proved they knew what they did was wrong.
Oh yeah and this idea that waterboarding worked to get OBL is hilarious due the fact that...
1) the ppl they waterboarded lied about not knowing the name when they were asked about after being waterboardeed...that was how they knew they had a real name, the fact that KSM and Zubaydah lied about it.. isn't waterboarding supposed to make them tell the truth? ...ponderous..
2) if waterboarding was so successful, then why did it still take 9 years to get the guy.. Zubaydah was waterboarded in 2002,KSM was waterboarded in 2003, OBL killed in 2011.. uh yeah, I can see how that information was just sssssssssssooooooooooooooooooo helpful.
again, ponderous.
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