Welcome to Bizarro Amerika!

Put the little beggars to work!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J75FihkgzKM&feature=player_embedded

Like my man say's, "You can't make this stuff up!"(Howey's favorite show ;D) Among the puss bags, Newt is probably  the pussiest. It would seem within the bounds of even the current people like Maddow to discuss his previous crimes/serious indiscretions and humiliation during his time with the Clinton adm. Has that even been touched on...

in reference to the video slam piece that was done...

Newt never said "Kids"...

He said "students"...

Newt never said anything about employeeing middle school or elementry school students either !!!

and


at 44 seconds into the clip...a cunt says

"i'm not sure that someone in middle school should be cleaning up after their classmates. Because what sort of message does that send to that child ?"

Newt never said in that clip anything about using middle school students for that job...

and god forbid that students be given a chance to learn responsibility at the high school level and earn some money....

what a bunch of bullshit....

Unfortunately, you are incorrect. Newt was speaking specifically of repealing child labor laws preventing underage children from working so he could get them to work cleaning our schools, etc. I guess he doesn't think 14 is young enough to work...

I'd  like to  add: Don't expect these kids to be working for minimum wage.

It helps to know what you're talking about 1)before throwing words like 'cunt' around and 2)before calling something 'bullshit'.



it helps, if only, to make sure you are not the cunt, spreading  the bullshit ..

it's pretty clear he was talking about middle-schoolers and elementary students..

unless those 9 yro are super accelerated and in high-school.

Nope...

it is not clear at all...

you won't be hired by a burger flipping company if you are underage...

and nothing is stopping kids from working for themselves at any age...mowing lawns...

babysitting...etc...etc...

Newt is just trying to provide more opportunities for high schooler's and those interested in bettering themselves...

and as i said before....the video was a bullshit slant even after the quotes both you and howie responded with....

interesting how those quotes show up after the fact and still don't lead to where either of you are trying to take it....


yes i don't search the web for news stories...i only interact with whatever the two or three of you offer...i don't go hunting

for extra info generally...i work with whatever you have to offer...


i am a fan of debating...not so much arguing...but i enjoy conversations and communication...

i hold none of you any higher in regards than the other...and i don't give a fuck where you place me !!!


i will be me...draw correlations with me to whomever you wish..."lilboh"

it bothers me none !!!

and i won't be chased away...unlike others

I don't have to 'chase' you away, I can just dump you and forget about you like any other annoyance if I chose to.. so please spare me the 'woe is me,I'll never be hungry again' Scarlett..

you won't be hired by a burger flipping company if you are underage... sure, which is why he wants to get rid of those 'stupid' child labor laws.. duh.

as for the rest, if you don't want to admit Newt was talking about 9-14 yro when he singled that age group out, then more power to ya.. I like some of Fafa's delusions as well.. so adding yours to  them only makes my life more colorful..

so....you are all for the keeping of stupid child labor laws...

the man keeps you down and you in turn keep the kids down...?....is that how this works ?

I don't find your questions to be serious. It's almost as if you're playing a role... and I don't really feel like playing that role with you right now..

sorry.

it's ok...

i was just reacting to the original video post and its content only....

I answered that earlier, while you were out.


Yet, boh does provide a bit of humor around here, so of course he's welcome. Think of the crazy old senile bigot uncle that farts during the holidays.

So....how's Darth doing lately? ;D

So what is it that's really the issue, Newt saying he wanted to repeal child labor laws or that he wanted kids to do stuff at school.

I can see you blowing your stacks about repealing child labor laws, although the actual effects of that would be minimal, but what's wrong with having kids do shit at school, like clean up?  I think that's a good way to start learning some real basic skills.  Everybody, and I mean everybody, should know how to push a broom, mop a floor, or buff a hallway.  If that is what you find offensive I admit I don't get that.

Funny. I always thought kids went to school to learn and gain social skills. When I grew up, we did chores at home to learn responsibility. But, of course, you guys didn't have that problem, don't you. I'm sure all respectable Republican children had illegal Mexican maids to clean their rooms and illegal Mexican gardeners to rake the leaves.  ;)

Gingrich is actually vocalizing the new agenda in ed. That is training rather than educating.

Not really. He just understands that the uneducated are more likely to vote Republican than Democrat. For the same reason those who watch Fox news are less aware than people who don't watch TV at all...

It baffles me how anybody can be staunchly for one over the other. Maybe you can enlighten me :D. Obama has not only continued every single Bush era program and policy but expanded the PA. Everyone knows the real unemployment rate is well into double digits, he filled the cabinet with Goldman Sachs and Monsanto former employees(after pre election claims to the contrary), claims that the country is hungry for a civilian military counterpart to the military, to name a few of the many examples of hypocrisy, not to mention that the same financiers backed McCain that backed him.

Take money out of politics, and a majority of this goes away.  No ones beholden, no one HAS to cow tow to big money to run for office.  To many favors are tied to politics, exceedingly so now.  Even someone who might want to "fix" things, is at the mercy of their political coffers.

*like*

true, but he has also done some 'leftish' things as well.. has he done enough? will he do more? That is that billion dollar election question isn't it..

Obama can only do so much without the republicans screwing up the process of lawmaking with an archaic and overused filibuster process.

Anyone who is stupid to think he doesn't want to close Guantanamo or end other policies is crazy.

Now Howey...He reversed himself on everything. He authorized sending Gitmo 'detainees' to other locations as well as claiming executive authority to apprehend any citizen with no more rights than an Iraqi.

http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2011/04/25/wikileaks-reveals-secret-guantanamo-files-exposes-detention-policy-as-a-construct-of-lies/

I was fooled along with most people but if he had been serious he could have accomplished a hell of a lot in the first 6 months when he had a majority.

Could you have made a more ridiculous response?

Really.  I want to know if it's possible. I challenge you to make a more ridiculous response than the one you just made!

couldn't it be said...

people who watch any news are more likely to be influenced than those who watch zero news from mainstrean sources ?

and aren't the uneducated less likely to vote in the first place ?...like cattle they should be

hearded in one direction over the other for self preservation of course...


How do we control the honesty of the influence ?

I don't know if I consider myself 'fooled' or just...  well you want things, say things, promise things, but when you get into the job you find out that things aren't as easy as you thought and/or promised. Do I like GITMO? Nope, but we were handed a burning bag of shit from the Bush admin and now if we smack it to put it out, we'll get shit all over us.. so, the only thing we can do is let it burn itself out.

IOW, we're stuck holding people who never should have been held in the 1st place because to release them now would really fuck us up.. so, we're stuck holding Bush's bag of shit. The ones we can release, we are..judiciously, the ones we can't? we're stuck with Thanks to the last guy who fucked everything up for the rest of us.

and unfortunately for us and Obama, that can be said for quite a few things.. but also unfortunate, is that we and he, cannot say that out loud without getting eye-rolls and snark.. *shrug*

interesting....a card played by both side when needed...good job


the difference is...


asking a guy or gal what they would like or do, over the actual way in which change occurs are not applicable...

but are great at misleading the populas...

most people miss this part and don't understand the inner workings of how government operates according to the constitution...

but they love a good show....and buy the hype...


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I suppose ekg that I'm just through with the excuses and the never ending blame of what one or another was left with from previous administrations. I could buy it once or twice but it seems to me that if you imagined the president's from LBJ forward on a timeline with corresponding policies and foreign policy from a bird's eye view;you would see one march, one agenda and mission that has been plotted out by still in power folks like Kissinger.

Do not go there.

Seems like the guy who paid millions for his trophy wife's diamonds (hon...I hope you have them hidden in case you come down with the Big C), is doubling down on his hatred for children. (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/01/9146400-gingrich-wont-back-off-support-for-relaxed-child-labor-laws)


Meanwhile, the poor little buggars are criminals if they don't sweep the floors...