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Title: Where's The Mass Exodus From the Military?
Post by: Howey on February 19, 2011, 08:37:19 pm
What he said back then:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/06/gen-james-amos-marines-dadt-_n_779978.html

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SAN DIEGO — The new commandant of the U.S. Marines Corps said Saturday that now is the wrong time to overturn the "don't ask, don't tell" policy prohibiting gays from openly serving in the military, as U.S. troops remain in the thick of war in Afghanistan.

"There's risk involved; I'm trying to determine how to measure that risk," Gen. James Amos said. "This is not a social thing. This is combat effectiveness. That's what the country pays its Marines to do."


What he says now:

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/02/18/top-marine-says-dadt-repeal-wont-lead-to-exodus-in-force/

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WASHINGTON -- The Marine Corps commandant who once said openly gay service members would be a dangerous "distraction" and was among the most outspoken opponents of repealing the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy said today he does not expect to lose troops over the change.

"I haven't had any indication yet at all, not at all," Gen. James Amos told reporters when asked if he expected the mass exodus of troops that Sen. John McCain and other critics predicted if the ban was lifted.

Amos was visiting troops in Afghanistan's Helmand Province when President Barack Obama signed the repeal in late December. He said he addressed some 12,000 Marines about the change and "everyone said, 'Sir, we got it. We're going to do this thing.'"

The about-face by the Marines' top general came before the ink was dried on the law and was underlined in a video Amos taped with the Corps' Sgt. Maj. Carlton W. Kent last month. In it, he said the service "will step out smartly to faithfully implement this new law. It's important that we value the diversity of background, culture and skills that all Marines bring to the service of our nation."


Title: Re: Where's The Mass Exodus From the Military?
Post by: Howey on February 19, 2011, 08:42:40 pm
How about the military chaplains fleeing the services? Nah...

http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2011/02/18/chaplains-repeal-ok/

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Box Turtle Bulletin’s Timothy Kincaid notes that the Family Research Center (FRC)’s claims that the repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell would undermine religious freedoms and lead to a mass exodus of Christian chaplains were overblown at best and lies at worst. From the Christian Post:

Army Chaplain Lt. Col. Carleton Birch said Wednesday that chaplains already have experience in counseling homosexual soldiers and will likely be able to adjust easily to an openly homosexual military.

“I’ve counseled homosexual soldiers when if I told anyone else that, they would get kicked out,” shared Birch, an evangelical.

When asked if chaplains would be limited in their ability to serve soldiers following the “don’t ask, don’t tell” repeal, he said that no changes were necessary to protect chaplains’ rights.

He maintained, “We’ve always been able to preach and teach” and anticipate little change in the future. [...]

Lt. Col. Lisa H. Tice, a Reformed chaplain who serves in the personnel, budget and readiness division of the Air Force Office of the Chief of Chaplains, said that Tier 1, the first phase of the military training, is geared towards chaplains.

Tice said of counseling gays, “We don’t see this as a big deal.”


Title: Re: Where's The Mass Exodus From the Military?
Post by: ekg on February 19, 2011, 09:04:16 pm
What he said back then:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/06/gen-james-amos-marines-dadt-_n_779978.html


What he says now:

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/02/18/top-marine-says-dadt-repeal-wont-lead-to-exodus-in-force/


someone needs to ask McCain the same question..