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Title: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: ekg on September 12, 2012, 08:39:04 am and Mitt not only makes it 'political'... he has the balls to say President Obama is a sympathizer of the terrorists.. and that he is 'disgraceful'
Quote In a statement Tuesday night, Mitt Romney accused the Obama administration of sympathizing with the Libyan protesters who attacked a consulate in Benghazi, killing the U.S. ambassador and three other American diplomats. “I’m outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi,” Romney said. “It’s disgraceful that the Obama Administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.” http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/09/12/romney-calls-obama-response-to-libya-attacks-disgraceful/ what a fucking chump, eh?.. but it gets even better. After promising not to 'campaign' on 9/11.. Romney went ahead and released his condemnation of Obama.. not for what Obama or the white house released... no, but for what Cairo said the White House said.. Quote But the statement criticized by the Romney campaign came early in the day, before the attacks on the two embassies, and was put out not by the White House, but by the Cairo embassy itself. The White House later disavowed the statement as not approved by Washington, according to a senior administration official speaking to Politico. Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt also commented on the statement from the Romney campaign. “We are shocked that, at a time when the United States of America is confronting the tragic death of one of our diplomatic officers in Libya, Governor Romney would choose to launch a political attack,” LaBolt said in a statement. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/mitt-romney-consulate-attack_n_1875906.html If Mitt Romney were to "When Americans were killed this year on 9/11.. what kind of person would use their deaths for not just his own political gains, but as an 'attack ad' against the President by saying he backed,was a proponent of, a sympathizer of the fucking terrorists? What kind of American does that? and to follow up... is it your opinion that the President is working with these terrorists as well? or is he just supporting their murders in secret?" what a nice guy this Romney is.. Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: ekg on September 12, 2012, 08:44:22 am btw... where is Mitt's condolences for the families in that statement..?
oh yeah.. there isn't any. Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: ekg on September 12, 2012, 09:00:58 am "@Reince: Obama sympathizes with attackers in Egypt. Sad and pathetic.”
wtf is wrong with this party? Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: starla on September 12, 2012, 09:20:23 am "@Reince: Obama sympathizes with attackers in Egypt. Sad and pathetic.” wtf is wrong with this party? I think Reince has been drunk tweeting again. Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: Howey on September 12, 2012, 10:13:56 am http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AccGMUIQQRE
If a Muslim group had made a "movie" such as this denegrating our God, the fundamentalists would be storming their embassies and killing their people. Or burning their churches. Wait. They already do that. This is the shit that Terry Jones and the other rabble-rousers are promoting. And we wonder why these fringe groups attacked our embassy???? Romney is an ass. Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: Howey on September 12, 2012, 10:18:20 am http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/obscure-film-mocking-muslim-prophet-sparks-anti-u-s-protests-in-egypt-and-libya/
Quote CAIRO — Protesters angry over an amateurish American-made video denouncing Islam attacked the United States Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, on Tuesday, killing a State Department officer, while Egyptian demonstrators stormed over the fortified walls of the United States Embassy here. On the 11th anniversary of the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, the assaults were a violent reminder that the changes sweeping the region have hardly dispelled the rage against the United States that still smolders in pockets around the Arab world. The mobs were set off by Egyptian media reports about a 14-minute trailer for the video, called “Innocence of Muslims,” that was released on the Web. The trailer opens with scenes of Egyptian security forces standing idle as Muslims pillage and burn the homes of Egyptian Christians. Then it cuts to cartoonish scenes depicting the Prophet Muhammad as a child of uncertain parentage, a buffoon, a womanizer, a homosexual, a child molester and a greedy, bloodthirsty thug. The trailer was uploaded to YouTube by Sam Bacile, whom The Wall Street Journal Web site identified as a 52-year old Israeli-American real estate developer in California. He told the Web site he had raised $5 million from 100 Jewish donors to make the film. “Islam is a cancer,” Mr. Bacile was quoted as saying. The video gained international attention when a Florida pastor began promoting it along with his own proclamation of Sept. 11 as “International Judge Muhammad Day.” In a statement on Tuesday, the pastor, Terry Jones of Gainesville, Fla., called the film “an American production, not designed to attack Muslims but to show the destructive ideology of Islam” and said it “further reveals in a satirical fashion the life of Muhammad.” He said the embassy and consulate attacks illustrated that Muslims “have no tolerance for anything outside of Muhammad” and called Islam “a total deception.” Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: Howey on September 12, 2012, 10:23:22 am What dumbfuck Romney is criticizing isn't a statement from Obama. It's a statement put out by the Cairo Embassy regarding the 9/11 anniversary and was put out BEFORE any attacks on any embassies. So he's lying again...
For those of you on PF or JPP, make sure this is known...pls. http://egypt.usembassy.gov/pr091112.html Quote The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims – as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: Howey on September 12, 2012, 11:06:01 am Oh. The acting sucks too.
Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: Howey on September 12, 2012, 01:09:19 pm The "apology" Romney refers to was issued SIX HOURS before the attack.
Someone's certainly stepped in some shit now. Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: uselesslegs on September 12, 2012, 01:32:35 pm These fuckers won't be happy until we have a full fledged global "whose cock is bigger" war between the respective minions of Yahweh and Allah.
Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: ekg on September 12, 2012, 02:04:46 pm The "apology" Romney refers to was issued SIX HOURS before the attack. Someone's certainly stepped in some shit now. and it was by the Egyptian ambassador while protestors were massing outside his gates and the gate of the Libyan embassy... no, he didn't step in.. he jumped in and has stayed there.. when he found out that he fucked up and made his statement even before it was reported and family notified.. in Fl today he doubled down..instead of admitting he fucked up... then no-nuts Romney got big nuts Newt to President Romney would shoot first and let God sort them out..*rollseyes* Quote In his remarks Wednesday in Florida, Romney said it was "never too early for the United States government to condemn attacks on Americans and to defend our values." "I think it is a terrible course for America to stand in apology for our values," Romney said. "That instead when our grounds are being attacked and being breached that the first response of the United States must be outrage at the breach of the sovereignty of our nation. And apology for America's values is never the right course." The fact that the statement came from the American embassy in Egypt, and not from the president himself, doesn't negate Obama's responsibility, Romney said. "Their administration spoke. The president takes responsibility not just for the words that come from his mouth but also from his ambassadors, from his administration, from his embassies, from his State Department," the Republican candidate said. Newt Gingrich, the former House speaker and a surrogate for Romney, also said the Republican's statement was justified. "Governor Romney's statement is pretty clear," Gingrich said on CNN's "Starting Point." "If Gov. Romney were president he would be enraged at the Egyptians for tolerating the attack on the embassy. Both countries have an obligation to protect our embassies." http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/12/with-attacks-in-middle-east-campaign-turns-to-foreign-policy/?hpt=hp_t2 and btw, I hope the Israeli writer/director of the film that caused all this is pleased with his body count.. Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: head of joaquin on September 12, 2012, 02:20:56 pm Romney broke the 11th commandment about not criticizing a president during a foreign policy crisis. He's so stupid, he didn't even seem to realize that your actually supposed to let the president handle the matter before politicizing it.
That said, I was kind of taken aback about the comment about respecting religions. I understand the foreign policy need to say such tripe, but in fact no, the US government doesn't need to respect religious weirdness, not even my own. Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: ekg on September 12, 2012, 03:33:28 pm Romney broke the 11th commandment about not criticizing a president during a foreign policy crisis. He's so stupid, he didn't even seem to realize that your actually supposed to let the president handle the matter before politicizing it. That said, I was kind of taken aback about the comment about respecting religions. I understand the foreign policy need to say such tripe, but in fact no, the US government doesn't need to respect religious weirdness, not even my own. the 'respect' comment was made many hours before the Libyan killing.. when there were some protestors outside the Cairo embassy..It was said to help quell any 'real' violence.. since everyone was pissed about an Israeli making the film in the USA.. one where he says Mohammad was a child molesters... I guess like the Catholics priests... and I don't have a problem with embassy statement.. :-\ Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: Howey on September 12, 2012, 03:52:22 pm then no-nuts Romney got big nuts Newt to President Romney would shoot first and let God sort them out..*rollseyes* Yeah...like Newt's some kind of foreign policy expert. and btw, I hope the Israeli writer/director of the film that caused all this is pleased with his body count.. He's probably a neocon Zionist. lil Mike's probably creaming in his jeans right now. Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: Howey on September 12, 2012, 03:56:51 pm the US government doesn't need to respect religious weirdness, not even my own. I'm a little taken aback by that comment, even with your disqualifier. Who's to say Islam is "religious weirdness"? Certainly not me or you. According to my religion, there's a lot more weird about Christianity, particularly the kind being spewed nowadays, than the religion enjoyed peacefully by billions, not millions, of people worldwide. Tell that to Koran burner Terry Jones, who's embraced said silly hate-spewed movie above. Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: Howey on September 12, 2012, 03:59:34 pm THIS is how a presidential candidate should make a statement. Without politicizing it.
Quote "No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for," "Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done." Barack Obama Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: Howey on September 12, 2012, 04:10:13 pm Republicans (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/2chambers/post/gop-leaders-less-critical-than-mitt-romney-in-response-to-libya-attack/2012/09/12/f7c0c2e0-fce1-11e1-8adc-499661afe377_blog.html) with real experience, including foreign policy, back the President:
Quote [N]o Republican leader criticized President Obama on Wednesday morning, and called instead for stronger security at U.S. diplomatic facilities, the swift capture and punishment of the perpetrators and a renewed commitment to pro-democracy efforts in the Arab world. “We mourn for the families of our countrymen in Benghazi, and condemn this horrific attack,” House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) said in a statement…. In the Senate, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) usually reserves his morning Senate floor remarks to sharply criticize Obama administration policy. But Wednesday he struck a more somber tone and expressed support for “employing every available tool at our disposal to ensure the safety of Americans overseas and to hunt down those responsible for these attacks…. Even Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.), Joseph I. Lieberman (I-Conn.) and Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) — a troika that regularly critiques the Obama administration’s foreign policy — urged Obama to continue supporting democracy efforts in Libya and Egypt. Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: Howey on September 12, 2012, 06:14:51 pm OUCH (http://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmith/foreign-policy-hands-voice-disbelief-at-romney-cai)
R Quote omney keyed his statement to the American Embassy in Cairo's condemnation of an anti-Muslim video that served as the trigger for the latest in a series of regional riots over obscure perceived slights to the faith. But his statement — initially embargoed to avoid release on September 11, then released yesterday evening anyway — came just before news that the American Ambassador to Libya had been killed and broke with a tradition of unity around national tragedies, and of avoiding hasty statements on foreign policy. It was the second time Romney has been burned by an early statement on a complex crisis: Romney denounced the Obama Administration's handling of a Chinese dissident's escape just as the Administration negotiated behind the scenes for his departure from the country. "They were just trying to score a cheap news cycle hit based on the embassy statement and now it’s just completely blown up," said a very senior Republican foreign policy hand, who called the statement an "utter disaster" and a "Lehman moment" — a parallel to the moment when John McCain, amid the 2008 financial crisis, failed to come across as a steady leader. He and other members of both parties cited the Romney campaign's recent dismissals of foreign policy's relevance. One adviser dismissed the subject to BuzzFeed as a "shiny object," while another told Politico that the subject was the "president's turf," drawing a rebuke from Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol. "I guess we see now that it is because they’re incompetent at talking effectively about foreign policy," said the Republican. "This is just unbelievable — when they decide to play on it they completely bungle it." Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: head of joaquin on September 12, 2012, 07:58:33 pm I'm a little taken aback by that comment, even with your disqualifier. Who's to say Islam is "religious weirdness"? Certainly not me or you. According to my religion, there's a lot more weird about Christianity, particularly the kind being spewed nowadays, than the religion enjoyed peacefully by billions, not millions, of people worldwide. Tell that to Koran burner Terry Jones, who's embraced said silly hate-spewed movie above. Killing people because they make fun of your prophet is in fact weird. Period. Not only that, it's reprehensible. Religious people of every stripe need to get over their fanaticism and respect the fact that other people might find their views weird. Indeed, I do find Islam weird, as well as Christianity (even though I'm a Christian). Religion isn't rational and isn't intended to be. Weirdness is OK, so long as you don't kill somebody because they make cartoons or movies you don't like. I believe in the gospel (in some transcendental sense). That doesn't give me the right to attack somebody because they make fun of Jesus. Indeed, if you have the courage of one's convictions, you shouldn't even get upset. Why would Jesus or Mohammad care one way or another if somebody make fun of them, assuming they are who people say they are? In any case, I have nothing against Islam per se; it's a highly ethical and sophisticated religion in general. But it needs to make its peace with modernity, just as mainstream Christianity and Judaism did, and it will eventually. Right now, the fundamentalism in the muslim world is the result of identity issues and insecurities that still afflict the Religious Right in this country, and has no place in the modern world. Meanwhile, to the extent that it is politicized to deny rights or cause harm (as the Christian Right does in this country), it should be criticized roundly. Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: head of joaquin on September 12, 2012, 08:08:29 pm THIS is how a presidential candidate should make a statement. Without politicizing it. Barack Obama Romney bumbled again and looks small. Right now isn't the time for bravado about revenge, especially since the perpetrators seem to be some relatively small violent group, not representative of the government or the nation at large. Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: Howey on September 12, 2012, 08:13:38 pm Killing people because they make fun of your prophet is in fact weird. Period. Not only that, it's reprehensible. Religious people of every stripe need to get over their fanaticism and respect the fact that other people might find their views weird. Indeed, I do find Islam weird, as well as Christianity (even though I'm a Christian). Religion isn't rational and isn't intended to be. Weirdness is OK, so long as you don't kill somebody because they make cartoons or movies you don't like. I believe in the gospel (in some transcendental sense). That doesn't give me the right to attack somebody because they make fun of Jesus. Indeed, if you have the courage of one's convictions, you shouldn't even get upset. Why would Jesus or Mohammad care one way or another if somebody make fun of them, assuming they are who people say they are? In any case, I have nothing against Islam per se; it's a highly ethical and sophisticated religion in general. But it needs to make its peace with modernity, just as mainstream Christianity and Judaism did, and it will eventually. Right now, the fundamentalism in the muslim world is the result of identity issues and insecurities that still afflict the Religious Right in this country, and has no place in the modern world. Meanwhile, to the extent that it is politicized to deny rights or cause harm (as the Christian Right does in this country), it should be criticized roundly. Very well written. I understand your opinion now. Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: starla on September 12, 2012, 09:38:42 pm We watched Romney doing his speech on tv this morning and I said, "Here's his moment."
He put on his big boy undies, and couldn't handle it. First, it isn't polite to smirk before making a statement about the death of other American's, especially when the deaths were carried out across a very public platform. Maybe he was nervous, I don't know, but not the place for being like that. Next, it doesn't make Romney look good when he's stepped in shit and rather than acknowledge that he just keeps walking around the house with shit on his shoes. Today was his moment to show the world he was ready to take the job. All I heard from him was "Uh...uh....uh.... *pause*" Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: ekg on September 13, 2012, 07:13:58 am Republicans (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/2chambers/post/gop-leaders-less-critical-than-mitt-romney-in-response-to-libya-attack/2012/09/12/f7c0c2e0-fce1-11e1-8adc-499661afe377_blog.html) with real experience, including foreign policy, back the President: you forgot this one.. Quote The death of Ambassador John Christopher Stevens and attacks on U.S. facilities in Libya and Egypt is prompting responses from Republican congressional leaders — including Mitt Romney running mate Paul Ryan — that are far different than the critical comments made by the Republican presidential nominee in the hours after the attack. Now is “a time for healing,” Ryan (R-Wis.) told a crowd in De Pere, Wis., during a campaign stop. He made no criticism of Obama in his remarks. Ryan, who was introduced by longtime friend Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, told a crowd of several hundred at Cornerstone Community Ice Center outside of Green Bay that “we woke up to some pretty disturbing news this morning.” “I know all Americans today are shocked and saddened by the news in the Middle East,” said Ryan. “The attacks on our diplomatic missions in Egypt and Libya, and the loss of four American lives — including our ambassador, J. Christopher Stevens — this is outrageous. Our hearts are heavy. And our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families.” He led the crowd in a brief moment of silence, then said: “This is a time for healing. It’s a time for resolve. In the face of such a tragedy, we are reminded that the world needs American leadership, and the best guarantee of peace is American strength.” How big of a douche are you.. when your 'attack dog' VP candidate won't even 'attack' something of this nature? How big of a douche does this make Romney? How out of touch and only out for his own personal gain does this make Romney? This is why he's 'non-human'.. he simply doesn't understand how 'humans' work and has one mode..'retard'.. and you never go full retard.. Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: ekg on September 13, 2012, 07:28:27 am We watched Romney doing his speech on tv this morning and I said, "Here's his moment." He put on his big boy undies, and couldn't handle it. First, it isn't polite to smirk before making a statement about the death of other American's, especially when the deaths were carried out across a very public platform. Maybe he was nervous, I don't know, but not the place for being like that. Next, it doesn't make Romney look good when he's stepped in shit and rather than acknowledge that he just keeps walking around the house with shit on his shoes. Today was his moment to show the world he was ready to take the job. All I heard from him was "Uh...uh....uh.... *pause*" That 'smirk' irriatates me.. no matter what he's saying.. no matter who is saying something to him.. no matter what is going on around him.. it's there. It's his 'go - to' face.. His "Im really concerned here,just look at my face" face.. ugh! Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: Howey on September 13, 2012, 09:26:08 am That 'smirk' irriatates me.. no matter what he's saying.. no matter who is saying something to him.. no matter what is going on around him.. it's there. It's his 'go - to' face.. His "Im really concerned here,just look at my face" face.. ugh! You have no idea how much this pissed me off... (http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3218/romneysmirk.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/411/romneysmirk.jpg/) A picture tells a thousand fucking words. What an elite, smug mother fucker. Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: uselesslegs on September 13, 2012, 11:30:27 am Well, I guess when you ran a business for years that was just as fine with closing a company for profit, as it was with seeing it be successful for profit...you never really had to have a game face.
I've met quite a few people who have done exceedingly well for themselves and I can't recall any of them having such (or any) difficulty in conveying responses with body language, speech (tone), facial recognition...that let you know (whether they were "into" your situation/thought process or not)...they "got it." But Mitt? I swear it's like he has aspergers. Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: Howey on September 13, 2012, 11:48:12 am Well, I guess when you ran a business for years that was just as fine with closing a company for profit, as it was with seeing it be successful for profit...you never really had to have a game face. I've met quite a few people who have done exceedingly well for themselves and I can't recall any of them having such (or any) difficulty in conveying responses with body language, speech (tone), facial recognition...that let you know (whether they were "into" your situation/thought process or not)...they "got it." But Mitt? I swear it's like he has aspergers. That's not the picture I wanted to post. This is better. (http://imageshack.us/a/img717/9418/ghoulishsmirkromney.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/717/ghoulishsmirkromney.jpg/) Know what? That's the kind of snarly snark I used to figure was on Sam's or lil Mike's faces when they thought they one-upped someone. No thanks. From now on Mitt will be Not the Not the Romney to moi. Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: ekg on September 13, 2012, 02:19:35 pm That's not the picture I wanted to post. This is better. (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/23/ghoulishsmirkromney.jpg/) Know what? That's the kind of snarly snark I used to figure was on Sam's or lil Mike's faces when they thought they one-upped someone. No thanks. From now on Mitt will be Not the Not the Romney to moi. Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: starla on September 13, 2012, 04:58:56 pm At least Obama knows how to use his game face. I've only seen him come out a few times with a smirk or smile, because the situation warranted it. Otherwise he has that look on his face like we fucked up and he has to "talk" to us about it, again, lol.
Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: starla on September 13, 2012, 05:45:08 pm This is the issue I have with Terry Jones. He was asked to not support the video and he said he didn't care what happened because of it.
Oh, and this... [img width= height= alt=Image Hosted by ImageShack.us]http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/273/picture3fp.png[/img] Shot at 2012-09-13 Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: Howey on September 13, 2012, 05:53:24 pm How'd you get that picture to work????
yeah, we were all over that. Somehow, Jones is involved in this too. The actors in the movie were probably hired from G'ville trailer parks and meth labs. Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: starla on September 13, 2012, 06:07:12 pm How'd you get that picture to work???? yeah, we were all over that. Somehow, Jones is involved in this too. The actors in the movie were probably hired from G'ville trailer parks and meth labs. LOL, finally got imageshack to work. I just took a screen shot from twitter. I have to give it to the commenter's on The Union Leader's website. For the most part the only comments I ever see on there are licking the Republican's butt's. BUT, the Liberals and Moderates of New Hampshire have made it a point to tell people that this was not Obama's fault and they have confidence in him. But I am so over the conspiracy theories running rampant on facebook right now. One woman I ended up hiding went on a rant about how she was given a secret correspondence showing Obama made an executive order giving the film makers permission to release this movie so these problems would happen. Apparently it was deleted from her wall and she is now convinced Facebook is in cahoots with Obama and they are trying to silence her. I swear to God I will end up for 20 friends when November rolls around. And this isn't to say I'm against anyone who has a different opinion than me, I don't care about party affiliation. But when you start coming off like that lady is I'm not interested in reading that all day on the news feed. Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: starla on September 13, 2012, 06:10:02 pm I did laugh when a woman on the UL site said if Bush had killed Osama he never would have bragged about it and wouldn't thump his chest about it. The hell he wouldn't, he wanted that kill. At least Obama gave credit where credit was due.
Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: head of joaquin on September 13, 2012, 07:49:09 pm I did laugh when a woman on the UL site said if Bush had killed Osama he never would have bragged about it and wouldn't thump his chest about it. The hell he wouldn't, he wanted that kill. At least Obama gave credit where credit was due. In that alternate reality, I can just see Bush's "Mission Accomplished Tour" which would have involved parades with Bin Laden mummified remains being dragged by pigs through the street. Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: ekg on September 13, 2012, 08:29:36 pm At least Obama knows how to use his game face. I've only seen him come out a few times with a smirk or smile, because the situation warranted it. Otherwise he has that look on his face like we fucked up and he has to "talk" to us about it, again, lol. HA.. yes. the Daily show had a thing last year or sometime that Obama would break up with us, if we didn't get our shit together.. LOL Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: ekg on September 13, 2012, 08:33:28 pm I did laugh when a woman on the UL site said if Bush had killed Osama he never would have bragged about it and wouldn't thump his chest about it. The hell he wouldn't, he wanted that kill. At least Obama gave credit where credit was due. Nah... (http://www.pensitoreview.com/images/photos-george-bush-mission-accomplished-codpiece.jpg) he wouldn't have said shit, even with a mouth full of it.. *rollseyes* Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: starla on September 14, 2012, 02:42:10 pm I was called something today I have never been called before. A N Lover.
Backing up, I sent a message to a blogger on twitter after reading one of their articles. In the article they quoted The Daily Kos from 2004 when the owner Markos Moulitsas lamented that Bush didn't care about civilian contractors in Iraq. They took the quote and made it out in the article that it came from the left and it was a reflection of how the entire left felt. I had to tell the person that they should have said where the quote came from instead of alluding it was recent. I mean Mr. Moulitsas would probably like to know he was being quoted somewhere so he could possibly comment on it. After that I started getting retweets of their response which was that they knew where it came from and who said it, and that they meant that most of the left thinks that way. Well, that's not what the article said, but whatever. I laughed when I saw the comment from RangerWomen and thought, "when you're all out of things to call someone, use the N card. She went on a rant about Obama knowing in advance about the Libya killings and ended it with telling him he was a N and no one would vote for him in November. Then she called me a N lover. Now, this being the first time I've been called this, and the fact that I didn't care, I laughed. So I sat back for a few hours and went back to what I was doing before. Just now I thought, you know what, I bet my followers would love to see that. Unfortunately, she deleted it. I guess she either went back to bed and thought about it, or someone told her that wasn't cool. Either way I'm sad my followers wouldn't get to see that gem. My friend and I would have laughed at that one for a while. It's my fault for seeing BS and deciding I was brave enough to step in a pack of rabid dogs without catching rabies. Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: Howey on September 15, 2012, 05:35:07 pm RangerWomen Ranger Woman? What kind of woman calls herself that? Does she wear lots of flannel? Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: Howey on September 15, 2012, 05:40:48 pm FactCheck finally takes on Mitt (http://factcheck.org/2012/09/romney-gets-it-backward/)....and it's not looking good.
Quote Mitt Romney claims the Obama administration issued an “apology for American values” after U.S. embassies were attacked. Not true. Romney refers to a statement issued before mobs attacked either in Egypt or Libya, and faults U.S. diplomats for failing to condemn actions that hadn’t yet happened. Furthermore, the word “sorry” or “apologize” doesn’t appear in the statement. Under the headline, “U.S. Embassy Condemns Religious Incitement,” the embassy in Cairo said, “Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy.” Romney has falsely accused Obama of “apologizing for America” many times before. The line has been a dependable applause-getter with conservative audiences. But we found no basis for this claim in Obama’s previous speeches and remarks. And other fact-checkers came to similar conclusions. More at the link. Poor Mittens...does he have any credibility left? Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: uselesslegs on September 15, 2012, 06:37:05 pm The problem is...people go where they want the news to align with their preconceived or rigid positions/"beliefs."
Mitt can keep spouting the same thing over and over, because there's not a consensus among "news" outlets as to somethings validity or falseness. If someone discovered that making 2+2=5 would lose President Obama his re-election bid...you can bet your ass some people would be hard at work trying to figure out how they could make voters believe it....and the "news" community as a whole, wouldn't call it out for the outright bullshit it is. We left sense and sensibility behind a long time ago. People bought into the "other side of the story" garbage (when it comes to factual matters) and corporations/media who could make a profitable model off of that insanity, ran with it all the way to profitville. Journalists stopped fighting back. Hell, most of them stopped fighting altogether and just went with the money flow. When you see "news organizations" giving 10 minutes to some nutjob on birtherism, because it's somehow the journalistically ethical thing to do?...We lost our way, big time. This permeates so many news cycles and newspapers. President Obama is not infallible, but some outlets try to push that. President Obama is not a walking cluster fuck, but some outlets try to push that. I mentioned the 2+2=5 thing earlier, because I had an argument with some dipshit (regarding the validity of Evolution) and their response was..."How do we KNOW 2+2=4? How do we truly know that? That's what we've been led to believe for thousands of years...but what if that's wrong?" I pointed out old and modern tech, architecture, medicine...hell anything that bases what they know/are on that simple equation being true and how even their cell phone or computer wouldn't work if it was wrong. They're response posited that we'd PROBABLY STILL have everything I mentioned, regardless. He can't imagine those things/items NOT existing, so the inevitability of their existence (was to him) a forgone conclusion...despite the reality of what it takes to make them...real. THESE are the insane lunatics that have grabbed a hold of reason and are fucking it to death to create a world they feel more comfortable in. To create a world where they have a voice and get to participate in serious discourse, whether they know what the fuck they're talking about or not. They'll engage you in a robust discussion of Evolution, as long as they get to chime in and ask why monkeys aren't having humans. God damnit! Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: Howey on September 15, 2012, 06:49:46 pm When you see "news organizations" giving 10 minutes to some nutjob on birtherism, because it's somehow the journalistically ethical thing to do?...We lost our way, big time. That reminds me...l Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: ekg on September 15, 2012, 09:08:46 pm I was called something today I have never been called before. A N Lover. Backing up, I sent a message to a blogger on twitter after reading one of their articles. In the article they quoted The Daily Kos from 2004 when the owner Markos Moulitsas lamented that Bush didn't care about civilian contractors in Iraq. They took the quote and made it out in the article that it came from the left and it was a reflection of how the entire left felt. I had to tell the person that they should have said where the quote came from instead of alluding it was recent. I mean Mr. Moulitsas would probably like to know he was being quoted somewhere so he could possibly comment on it. After that I started getting retweets of their response which was that they knew where it came from and who said it, and that they meant that most of the left thinks that way. Well, that's not what the article said, but whatever. I laughed when I saw the comment from RangerWomen and thought, "when you're all out of things to call someone, use the N card. She went on a rant about Obama knowing in advance about the Libya killings and ended it with telling him he was a N and no one would vote for him in November. Then she called me a N lover. Now, this being the first time I've been called this, and the fact that I didn't care, I laughed. So I sat back for a few hours and went back to what I was doing before. Just now I thought, you know what, I bet my followers would love to see that. Unfortunately, she deleted it. I guess she either went back to bed and thought about it, or someone told her that wasn't cool. Either way I'm sad my followers wouldn't get to see that gem. My friend and I would have laughed at that one for a while. It's my fault for seeing BS and deciding I was brave enough to step in a pack of rabid dogs without catching rabies. next time tell them.. "No, I just love big cock!" fucking retards... Thank you for standing up for the left. I know that's not exactly where you stand.. but it was awesome of you to try and correct ignorance.. unfortunately, that's becoming such a full-time job for everyone these days that it's almost an impossible task.. Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: starla on September 15, 2012, 09:27:15 pm next time tell them.. "No, I just love big cock!" fucking retards... Thank you for standing up for the left. I know that's not exactly where you stand.. but it was awesome of you to try and correct ignorance.. unfortunately, that's becoming such a full-time job for everyone these days that it's almost an impossible task.. LOL, you know Mike told me I should have told her I like the black cock every night to get her head to explode. After I went through her profile though and saw the N word repeated and repeated on top of the conspiracy's she was spouting about I felt it better to report her, block her and feel sorry that she has come to that point in her life where she is so full of hate and racism. You know, I'm an Independent, but I've seen the screw up's coming from the Right since 2004. I'm just not impressed with anything the Right has had to offer in a long time. And Howey, yes, her handle is RangerWomen, not Woman, Women. But she certainly isn't speaking for anyone other than herself. I love how I have a civil discussion with TweetyTeam and the stans have to resort to their crap to defend them, as if they were incapable of doing that themselves. Honest to God this woman reminded me of the foster parent we can't stand. Sadly, I have to interact with him at the Christmas party this year. I can only hope Obama wins so I can have a tiny victory with that. Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: ekg on September 15, 2012, 09:38:28 pm LOL, you know Mike told me I should have told her I like the black cock every night to get her head to explode. After I went through her profile though and saw the N word repeated and repeated on top of the conspiracy's she was spouting about I felt it better to report her, block her and feel sorry that she has come to that point in her life where she is so full of hate and racism. You know, I'm an Independent, but I've seen the screw up's coming from the Right since 2004. I'm just not impressed with anything the Right has had to offer in a long time. And Howey, yes, her handle is RangerWomen, not Woman, Women. But she certainly isn't speaking for anyone other than herself. I love how I have a civil discussion with TweetyTeam and the stans have to resort to their crap to defend them, as if they were incapable of doing that themselves. Honest to God this woman reminded me of the foster parent we can't stand. Sadly, I have to interact with him at the Christmas party this year. I can only hope Obama wins so I can have a tiny victory with that. I totally agree with MIke... ;D ;D Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: starla on September 16, 2012, 01:14:50 am @cnnbrk: Egypt's prime ministers says "a number" of embassy protesters say they were paid http://t.co/mfiJXiXb
Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: Howey on September 16, 2012, 01:28:25 am Ol Mitt's got some deeeeep pockets!
Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: ekg on October 10, 2012, 08:04:27 am something about this story... kinda creeps me out and pisses me off and makes me rolls my eyes at the same time..
let's file this under...'the on-going pursuit to make himself seem human...' my thoughts in purple.. Quote Romney knew ex-SEAL slain in Benghazi Des Moines, Iowa (CNN) - Mitt Romney knew one of the former Navy SEALs killed in this year's Sept. 11 attacks in Benghazi, Libya, he told an Iowa audience Tuesday. The GOP presidential nominee choked up as he described meeting the man his campaign confirmed was Glen Doherty, who was killed in the Libya attack.(of course he choked up, but did he lose the smirk?..) "We had a lot of things in common," Romney said of Doherty, recalling the two had skied at some of the same places, and that when they met Doherty had discussed his care and concern for people he had met working in the Middle East. "You can imagine how I felt when I found out that he was one of the two former Navy SEALs killed in Benghazi on Sept. 11th." (I'm sorry, but just saying he 'skied' with someone sound hoity-tioty coming from him. and I imagine he pissed himself with the opportunity to use this death in his campaign when he told by staffers that he met the guy once) Romney only recently learned for certain that Doherty was the same man he had met at a party in La Jolla, California, a campaign spokesman said.(and he ran out and told a crowd the second he did) Reminiscing on a windy Tuesday in Iowa, Romney cited reports on CNN International that Doherty had left a safe location to rush to the aid of the consulate under attack last month. "They didn't hunker down where they were in safety – they rushed there to go help," Romney said, tying that spirit to his candidacy. "This is the American way – we go where there's trouble. We go where we're needed. And right now we're needed."..(is he really comparing himself with AND politicizing this persons death in such a blatant way, and no doubt with that fucking smirk on his face?) The two men met under unlikely – and humorous – circumstances, Romney said. Several years ago he and his wife Ann headed out for a neighborhood party but did not confirm the address on their invitation. "We went over, knocked on the door, they let us in 'good to see you' when we came in," Romney said. "We had dinner together and got our pictures with everyone." "Turns out, this wasn't the neighborhood party," he continued, to laughter from the audience. "This was a family having a party with their friends all right?"(ah hah aha hah.. you home invaded someone at a 'neighborhood' party you just happened to stumble upon..ah gov, aren't you just the Jim Dandy) the whole thing seems sooo..... Pat Tillman,erroneous propaganda material,used to make him seem more like the little people..-ish. Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: Howey on October 10, 2012, 10:46:15 am something about this story... kinda creeps me out and pisses me off and makes me rolls my eyes at the same time.. let's file this under...'the on-going pursuit to make himself seem human...' my thoughts in purple.. the whole thing seems sooo..... Pat Tillman,erroneous propaganda material,used to make him seem more like the little people..-ish. Using the death of someone for political gain. How Mitt. Title: Re: A US ambassador and three others are killed... Post by: Howey on October 10, 2012, 06:39:04 pm Using the death of someone for political gain. How Mitt. Why, yes it is Howey! (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/10/mitt-romney-glen-doherty_n_1954925.html) Quote On Tuesday, Romney spoke to supporters in Iowa, recalling a chance encounter with a former Navy SEAL while mistakenly attending a Christmas party in San Diego a few years ago. “I met some remarkable people, one of whom was a former Navy SEAL," Romney said. "I just learned a few days ago that he was one of the two former Navy SEALs killed in Benghazi. It broke my heart.” Romney didn't directly provide Doherty's name, but his campaign later confirmed his identity. He was one of four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens, killed during a violent assault on the consulate in Benghazi last month. Boston's WHDH later reached out to Doherty's mother, Barbara, to get her reaction to Romney's campaign trail anecdote. "I don't trust Romney. He shouldn't make my son's death part of his political agenda," she told WHDH. "It's wrong to use these brave young men, who wanted freedom for all, to degrade Obama.” Doherty similarly decried the politicization of her son's death in an interview with the Boston Herald last month. Glen Doherty's friend, Elf Ellefsen, also spoke with Seattle's KIRO, expressing similar disagreement with Romney's mention of his friend's death. According to Ellefsen, Doherty found his exchange with Romney to be "insincere and stale." "Mitt Romney approached him ultimately four times, using this private gathering as a political venture to further his image," Ellefsen told KIRO. "He kept introducing himself as Mitt Romney, a political figure. The same introduction, the same opening line ... [Doherty] said it was pathetic and comical to have the same person come up to you within only a half hour, have this person reintroduce himself to you, having absolutely no idea whatsoever that he just did this 20 minutes ago, and did not even recognize Glen's face." |