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So right out of the shoot the fuck starts off with the anecdotal bullshit stories.  God how I hate that pablum.

I just turned it on and saw that fuckin smirk while Obama was hoing alking. How fucking condescending.

Fuk Romney.

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Good job~!! ;D

I'm not watching it for about another 40 mins..( grrrrrrrrrr )

and that's when I get to throw stuff at the TV because the kid will be watching something in her room.. ;D

Spinner just asked an interesting question.  Do you think that they are in contact with their handlers via an iPad or something on the dais?

I give the first 1/2 hour to Romney.  Looks like they found a look alike that they could program to seem human.  Obama is spending a lot of time looking pissed off.  Mitt's smiling like a sailor who just got paid and is in a fuckin whore house.

Agreed.

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ROMNEY WINS DEBATE IN FIRST MINUTE!

Somehow they've channeled charisma of the ghost of Reagan into Romney.  Fuckin amazing!  Just fuckin amazing!  I can't believe what I'm fuckin watching.  I'm just waiting to hear "there you go again".

Left me feel'in kinda...flat.

Wow!  If you know nothin about nothin and you're watchin this, Romney wins.  If you spent no time on the facts, just seeing what you're watching.  Obama looks like a beaten down dog.  Romney 1, Obama 0.  Watch the polls in the swing states turn more red.

I felt like I was watching an old Ali fight, with rope-a-dope, but Obama never came off the ropes after taking all those hits to drill a tired slob...because Romney wasn't running out of any steam. 

President Obama came off like he was just some where else.  He almost looked like he was either sick...or just annoyed he had to be there.  I know a bunch of what was said will be called out for the bunk it is tomorrow...but the people who watched this who won't follow up on the bullshit facts in the news...and Romney will get the good impression.

Romney won last nite.



Kerry won the first debate against GWjr as well. Which further cements my theory Romney is Kerry's doppleganger, right down to being a super rich prick, nobody likes.

they better not be... that's a HUGE no-no.. in a debate, you're supposed to know your shit and not need any help from your people..

sooooooooooooooooooo

who was Uncle FuddyDuddy last night and wtf did he do with Barack Obama?

How in the hell did he let "47%" go by in the only debate about domestic and social issues?

How did he let Mitt tag him over and over again on $716Bn medicare cuts? without saying "You're full of shit" and "Your running mate cuts the exact same amount only he does take it from benefits"

I get that Obama was totally and completely caught off guard when out of the gate Romney flips on the only tax plan he's had for the last year and says "I don't have a $5trillion tax cut".. But to let him lie about it so many times and so forcefully(and condescendingly) without ever nailing with "Ok Gov,  then how are you going to offset it? Cut the mortgage loophole? raising taxes on the middle class? the poor? What? How, exactly, do you go about paying for this".. was insane..

How did he let Mitt get away with his 'small biz' bullshit orgasm.. the "that 3% you want to raise taxes on employ 1/4 of all the people" without saying "Unlike my opponent who only wants to focus on the 3% who employ 1/4 of the people in this country, my focus in the other 97% who employ 75% of this country. Those are the mom and pops that my plan will benefit. The 3% he is talking about is Donald Trump and the Koch Brothers..or other companies that make billions each year.. they can afford a 5% increase in their taxes to help the other 97% below then who are the real small businesses"


I guess there's something to be said for the office of president weakening your debate skills since you become 'UN-used' to someone in your face and challenging you.. but to let your opponent lie SO many times, to let them live in "vague" the entire 90 mins, to ignore their lies about you without challenging them in anyway... ? Holy shit. It was embarrassing.


I saw a tweet last night that I only wish was true.. it was "maybe we'll find out in the morning there was a massive foreign policy issue going on that will explain O's demeanor"..

if only..

did Romney win? yes.  but not because we learned anything.. he lied about everything that came out of his mouth.. and it wasn't so much 'he won' as it was Obama lost...  I mean, the jr varsity team can come out under the Friday night lights and beat the varsity team with more touchdowns.. but when that varsity teams played like they were in the pee-wee league,dropping the ball on the snap,fumbling after each completion, getting intercepted each down, missing the game winning field goal.. it was the varsity players that lost the game.. not the JV team that won it.

I'll say this.. the Biden v Ryan debate next week just got a whole lot more interesting..

Are you saying Romney did something with integrity?

Nah....

and one more thing... could any of you 'look' at Mitt Romney, whether he was talking or just watching Obama, without wanting to scream at the condescending,holier than thou, smug look on his face? OMG his 'go to' face is like he has too poop and he thinks you're just a bug on his windshield at the same time..



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it looks as painful for him to make that face as it is for me to look at it..



OH I forgot there is something else (*rollseyes* at that planned zinger)... did anyone notice how 'staged' his responses were in the beginning? the 1st few mins.. any answer he gave, he'd be looking right at Obama and he'd say something like "and the presidents plan will.." or "the difference between my idea and the presidents..."

umm dude, you're looking at and talking to THE PRESIDENT..

It's like if I was looking at and talking to Chuck and I said "Chuck said he was going to pee on the floor and then Chuck said it would make him giggle like a little girl afterwards" what planet talks like that?

This is how I felt going to bed last night... if you knew nothing about nothing, you just decided to vote for Mitt.. if you're a senior, you just decided Obama was stealing $716BN from medicare.. and you're voting for Mitt.

the only thing that I think saves Obama is he's still more believable and likable..  Romney didn't get a victory on those. He still came off 'weird' and a little 'douchy'... while Obama stayed out of the attacks and never shook off his 'coolness'..

you'll like this..

guess who did the debate-prep with Obama?  John Kerry..

he played Mitt in the 'mock debaters'..

figures huh..

Michael Moore's tweets..


pretty spot on and awesome.. HA! I could agree with or comment on just about all of them, so I'll just post this and let y'all read them for yourselves.. there are some really great 'zingers' and observations..

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2012/oct/4/picket-michael-moore-obama-what-happens-when-u-pic/


(he also has a good point, for the last 2 days Fox and the rest have been pounding Obama as the 'angry black man' over his re-found video... did that have a part is his decision to stay so passive?  and Romney just told Leher he was going to fire him and PBS, nut-up dude and say something to him about it..grrrr)

Romney couldn't have done better.  If I never saw either candidate before I'm voting for Romney.  He came off totally affable other than not stopping when told, but he even did that politely with a smile because Lehrer was such a fuckin pussy!   When Romney would look at him and say "just one more thing" holding up his finger, Lehrer should have said NO, times up, we're moving on, and talked over him.  When Romney would do that Obama would look to Lehrer like a pathetic lost school boy looking for the teacher to restore order as he listened to Romney club him.  Obama looked emasculated, distant, and even angry at times.  Not at all cool.  When Obama spoke Romney looked at him 70% of the time.  When Romney spoke Obama looked at this notes 70% of the time.  He looked lost and flustered.  TKO!

All I know is THAT Obama better not show up for the 2nd debate.

I felt like I was watching some movie where Obama's wife was being held hostage and he had to throw the debate or he'd never see her again. 

So much proven BS was coming out of Romney's mouth last night and barely a rebuff was given. I was like, "Come on dude! He just stuck his his whole head out with that whopper, tag him...what'r you doin???"

Fuckin BINGO!  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/03/chris-matthews-obama-debate_n_1937950.html

Hahaha...I was on Fox News, to see their reaction after the debate, but with such a lack luster performance from Obama, I switched to MSNBC to see how flabbergasted/stunned they'd be and how they'd handle it...and I'm glad I did.  When Chris went into full on epileptic mode, I was like, "Jesus Christ! Someone get the tranquilizer gun!"

John Sununu just called President Obama "lazy" on Andrea Mitchell and she just went blank and immediately said, "Are you sure you want to use the descriptor Lazy?"...and he's all like, "Oh yea...he's lazy.  He didn't prep. He's lazy like when he whined he didn't want to deliver that pizza."  She's just looking at the camera, like...what the hell?

Maybe Obama's given up. Seriously, is it worth it to hear all the lies and racism every fucking day?

Nah.  I was watching his speech from Denver just a few ago...and he was on fire.  So I'm not sure exactly who showed up to the debate last night.

The debate was on Obama's anniversary. Michelle gave him a bunch of shit.
M. Obama "YOu are really doing a fucking presidential debate on our anniversary. I hope you like Mormon cracker ass because that is your best shot of getting laid tonight.  I guess the country means more to you then your family. Go, to your little debate, don't let your marriage stop you"
He was emotionally fucked.

So you watched Live with Kelly and Michael this morning too?  ;D

The last time I watched Regis is when Kathy Lee was there and she was yapping about Frank and her kids, Coby, Colby or something similar. It was right after Frank got back door loving from the airline stewardess, who eventually ended up in Playboy or Penthouse. 


It is the only explanation I have for Obamas performance last nite. It was lackluster to say the least.

A lot of people are counting Biden out. He took it easy on Moma Grizzley,"Can I call you Joe" because she is a chick and it would have looked bad if he would have destroyed her dumb ass. He is going to tear Ryan a new one, since he was there for most of Ryans votes. As long as they keep Biden away from the scotch, I think he will win. Ryan is not the Tea Party genius everyone thinks. Biden just needs to pin him down on Ryan wanting to destroy Medicare.

Matthews rocked last night.. he was spitting and yelling and just completely stunned.. He had Chris Hayes about to bust himself laughing and cringing at the same time after that little rant of his.. It was awesome!  He'd never seen anything like it.. what was funny is before the debate started, Rachael asked him what he thought was going ton back stage right then.. and he said,talking about the JFK/Nixon debate,  "When Jack(kennedy) was coming out, Bobby looked at Jack and said "Kick him in the balls".. HA!(matthews lol).. that's not me saying that, it's history"..

and then the 1st thing he said after the debate was "there sure wasn't a Bobby Kennedy backstage"..

LOL.. but he and ed Schultz totally nailed what every liberal was feeling at about that moment.. and Sharpton was pissed! he was livid.. not at Obama so much, but at Romney for all his lies and the audacity he had to lie so much..

they were better than the debate..  ;D

Kelly and Michael were talking about the debate and Michael said the same thing you did, that Obama was so bad because it was his 20th anniversary and Michelle was giving him hell for having a debate on that day. It was hilarious.

I understand a lot better now but Obama should have still been prepared for this fuckin shit!

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I read the Wiki and noticed that Dinesh D'souza is a frequent abuser of the technique.  I thought there was a reason my bullshit meter pegged itself at about 2 minutes into the 2016 movie.   Who would be the best person to moderate a debate to keep these guys on track?

When times up they need to give the moderator a switch to turn off their mic and have the camera go off them to the moderator.  I think Steve Kroft from 60 Minutes could hold his own.

I thought Leher would have been.. but I guess not..

maybe Greggory or Williams..?  or even Andrea Mitchell.. or Cooper.. oh, the 'inside the actor's studio' guy..James Lipton.. I think he might be awesome at it..

 D'souza was on Maher a cpl weeks ago.. he never met Obama, never been in the same room with him, never interviewed him or anything else.. he got his material from looking at pictures and listening to soundbites.. so yeah, he's full of shit.. ;)

 ;D

I followed that to Mitt's wiki.. and saw this from James Carville

The only person who has seen Romney's taxes is John McCain and he took one look and picked Sarah Palin.


LOL

Actually, I think Lipton would do it really well.  He's dealt with every pretentious prick in Hollywood.  He could hold his own I think.

that's what I was thinking... and not only could he handle them, unlike the 'real journalist' would who show a deference to a POTUS or a P-candidate and maybe not hound them for an answer.. I think Lipton could and would since he has the experience asking 'esteemed peers' those kinds of unconformable questions..

Exactly.  He can be "delicate" but he'll ask the jaw droppers.  I saw him on Alex what's-her-name noon show on MSNBC and while (at least to me) I could tell he seemed to be an Obama fan...he was punching him pretty good with commentary when asked a question. 

After you included him in your remark about moderators, I flashed back to that and was like, "I bet he'd be just a tough, if not tougher on Obama and not allow any shit."

I just came across this while searching for another post.

Please...whatever any of you do...never buy a Motorola Atrix II!

fucking piece of shit!