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Title: What a fucking tool!
Post by: reverend_darth on October 09, 2012, 03:45:43 pm
This asshole could live in a solid gold palace where albino monkeys with diamond collars were trained to wipe his ass and it still wouldn't be good enough for him.  And people wonder why I hate fucking Republicans.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/09/david-siegel-email_n_1951801.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/09/david-siegel-email_n_1951801.html)


Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: Howey on October 09, 2012, 04:00:54 pm
Darden Restaurants is threatening to do the same thing.


They forgot to mention they haven't had full time employees since the Bush days.


Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: uselesslegs on October 09, 2012, 04:04:49 pm
I read that article...and while I saw the teabaggers fly out of the woodwork to suggest he was just "telling it like it is"...I told them it's fuck'in coercion, plain and simple.  There's no semantics here...he's basically saying, "If Obama wins, you're fired!"  I'm sure he already had his boot lickers give him lists of all the people they know or suspect to be Obama supporters, so they can go first.  Hell, he'll probably fire them whether Obama wins or not.  He's like that Thompson guy, who couldn't remember if he had 3 or 4 houses.  It's not in their wheelhouse of need to know. They just have them...you jealous?

My response to these yokels was...

1. there's no guarantee taxes will be raised, especially if the same obstructionism continues.
2. It assumes that if Romney is elected, that he won't ever raise taxes.
3. That tax credits or something else related to business won't offset any tax raise so then no firing's would be necessary.
4. He doesn't ultimately know WHAT the future holds regarding taxes OR how they'll relate to his business when all is said and done.
5. He just used doom and gloom coercion to manipulate his employees concerning a matter that may never transpire as he has envisioned.

I like to call that dirty pool...especially when you dangle people's livelihood's over their heads over unknowns. He wasn't giving ANYONE a heads up...he's trying to extort votes.


Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: ekg on October 10, 2012, 10:47:07 am
I just deleted a thread I had entitled 'loss of respect for the office' where I was going to put up Steve Wynn's " I've created about 250,000 direct and indirect jobs according to the state of Nevada's measurement. If the number is 250,000, that's exactly 250,000 more than this president, who I'll be damned if I want to have him lecture me about small business and jobs. I'm a job creator. Guys like me are job creators and we don't like having a bulls-eye painted on our back. " rant yesterday..

before hitting post I said "I just can't deal anymore".. I've watched Fox news, hannity especially, complain that this black,Muslim, socialist, with the help of 80 or so communists.. want to destroy this country because he wasn't even born here and is too lazy and ignorant to even learn to be an American.. has tarnished the office of President by taking away some of it's grandeur and awesomeness..

yes, Obama forced that loss of respect.. it had nothing to do with 4 years of hearing every descriptive statement in the paragraph above, repeated 24/7 for the last 4 years.. Obama and his Chicago politics ruined the office..

I'm sick of it.. so I deleted the thread.. why bother anymore.. right?

So why am I posting this thread? I guess to ask, what the hell is going on in this country? Yes, I'm sick of it, but who in the fuck do these people think they are? You had Jack Welch saying Obama's forged the BLS number, Steve Wynn, who will be damned if he wants a lecture from him, and now douchebag David Siegel, the owner of Westgate Resorts..

He emailed his employees to let them know in no uncertain terms, if Obama's reelected and if he raises taxes.. he'll fire people.. Because he pulled himself up on his own and now people just want to suck off him, those damned 47%ers..

no, really... that's not me saying it.. it's him..

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David Siegel, the owner of Westgate Resorts, sent a surprising email to his employees Monday.

It said that if President Barack Obama wins re-election and raises Siegel's taxes, he will have to lay off workers and downsize his company — or even shut it down.

"If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company, as our current President plans, I will have no choice but to reduce the size of this company," he wrote. "Rather than grow this company I will be forced to cut back. This means fewer jobs, less benefits and certainly less opportunity for everyone."

In a version of Romney's "47 percent" remarks, Siegel added that "people like me who made all the right decisions and invested in themselves are being forced to bail out all the people who didn't. The people that overspent their paychecks suddenly feel entitled to the same luxuries that I earned and sacrificed 42 years of my life for."

remember, this is the guy who building 'Versailles'.. ya know, his 2nd home..

(http://valerydemure.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Versailles_USA.jpg)

He's decided to hold his employees hostage.. and his demands are simple, vote my guy in office or you're all fired.. and good luck getting a job when that happens.. feed you family on UI and enjoy your socialist president.. me? I'll be remodeling little abode, getting all the elevators sync up and the imported marble laid.. and when I'm done, I'll be sitting on a beach in the Caribbean, drinking rum runners while you're starving...


Greed is good motherfucker...

now that's the fucking american spirit I know...

yeah, no... I'm not making it up..

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So, when you make your decision to vote, ask yourself, which candidate understands the economics of business ownership and who doesn't? Whose policies will endanger your job? Answer those questions and you should know who might be the one capable of protecting and saving your job. While the media wants to tell you to believe the "1 percenters" are bad, I'm telling you they are not. They create most of the jobs. If you lose your job, it won't be at the hands of the "1%"; it will be at the hands of a political hurricane that swept through this country.

You see, I can no longer support a system that penalizes the productive and gives to the unproductive. My motivation to work and to provide jobs will be destroyed, and with it, so will your opportunities. If that happens, you can find me in the Caribbean sitting on the beach, under a palm tree, retired, and with no employees to worry about.

Signed, your boss,

David Siegel



unreal..

So Romney will have his 1% club just up and fire everyone and move to the Bahama's...if he's not elected..  Awesome America-lovers right there folks..

the worst part, even a boycott wouldn't hurt this guy.. he's made his and now, you better do what he says or he'll crush you..








Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: ekg on October 10, 2012, 10:47:51 am
here's the whole email..it was too large to go above..

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    Subject: Message from David Siegel

    Date:Mon, 08 Oct 2012 13:58:05 -0400 (EDT)

    From: [David Siegel]

    To: [All employees]

    To All My Valued Employees,

    As most of you know our company, Westgate Resorts, has continued to succeed in spite of a very dismal economy. There is no question that the economy has changed for the worse and we have not seen any improvement over the past four years. In spite of all of the challenges we have faced, the good news is this: The economy doesn't currently pose a threat to your job. What does threaten your job however, is another 4 years of the same Presidential administration. Of course, as your employer, I can't tell you whom to vote for, and I certainly wouldn't interfere with your right to vote for whomever you choose. In fact, I encourage you to vote for whomever you think will serve your interests the best.

    However, let me share a few facts that might help you decide what is in your best interest.The current administration and members of the press have perpetuated an environment that casts employers against employees. They want you to believe that we live in a class system where the rich get richer, the poor get poorer. They label us the "1%" and imply that we are somehow immune to the challenges that face our country. This could not be further from the truth. Sure, you may have heard about the big home that I'm building. I'm sure many people think that I live a privileged life. However, what you don't see or hear is the true story behind any success that I have achieved.

    I started this company over 42 years ago. At that time, I lived in a very modest home. I converted my garage into an office so I could put forth 100% effort into building a company, which by the way, would eventually employ you. We didn't eat in fancy restaurants or take expensive vacations because every dollar I made went back into this company. I drove an old used car, and often times, I stayed home on weekends, while my friends went out drinking and partying. In fact, I was married to my business — hard work, discipline, and sacrifice. Meanwhile, many of my friends got regular jobs. They worked 40 hours a week and made a nice income, and they spent every dime they earned. They drove flashy cars and lived in expensive homes and wore fancy designer clothes. My friends refinanced their mortgages and lived a life of luxury. I, however, did not. I put my time, my money, and my life into this business —-with a vision that eventually, some day, I too, will be able to afford to buy whatever I wanted. Even to this day, every dime I earn goes back into this company. Over the past four years I have had to stop building my dream house, cut back on all of my expenses, and take my kids out of private schools simply to keep this company strong and to keep you employed.

    Just think about this – most of you arrive at work in the morning and leave that afternoon and the rest of your time is yours to do as you please. But not me- there is no "off" button for me. When you leave the office, you are done and you have a weekend all to yourself. I unfortunately do not have that freedom. I eat, live, and breathe this company every minute of the day, every day of the week. There is no rest. There is no weekend. There is no happy hour. I know many of you work hard and do a great job, but I'm the one who has to sign every check, pay every expense, and make sure that this company continues to succeed. Unfortunately, what most people see is the nice house and the lavish lifestyle. What the press certainly does not want you to see, is the true story of the hard work and sacrifices I've made.

    Now, the economy is falling apart and people like me who made all the right decisions and invested in themselves are being forced to bail out all the people who didn't. The people that overspent their paychecks suddenly feel entitled to the same luxuries that I earned and sacrificed 42 years of my life for. Yes, business ownership has its benefits, but the price I've paid is steep and not without wounds. Unfortunately, the costs of running a business have gotten out of control, and let me tell you why: We are being taxed to death and the government thinks we don't pay enough. We pay state taxes, federal taxes, property taxes, sales and use taxes, payroll taxes, workers compensation taxes and unemployment taxes. I even have to hire an entire department to manage all these taxes. The question I have is this: Who is really stimulating the economy? Is it the Government that wants to take money from those who have earned it and give it to those who have not, or is it people like me who built a company out of his garage and directly employs over 7000 people and hosts over 3 million people per year with a great vacation?

    Obviously, our present government believes that taking my money is the right economic stimulus for this country. The fact is, if I deducted 50 percent of your paycheck you'd quit and you wouldn't work here. I mean, why should you? Who wants to get rewarded only 50 percent of their hard work? Well, that's what happens to me.

    Here is what most people don't understand and the press and our Government has chosen to ignore — to stimulate the economy you need to stimulate what runs the economy. Instead of raising my taxes and depositing that money into the Washington black-hole, let me spend it on growing the company, hire more employees, and generate substantial economic growth. My employees will enjoy the wealth of that tax cut in the form of promotions and better salaries. But that is not what our current Government wants you to believe. They want you to believe that it somehow makes sense to take more from those who create wealth and give it to those who do not, and somehow our economy will improve. They don't want you to know that the "1%", as they like to label us, pay more than 31% of all the taxes in this country. Thomas Jefferson, the author of our great Constitution, once said, "democracy" will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

    Business is at the heart of America and always has been. To restart it, you must stimulate business, not kill it. However, the power brokers in Washington believe redistributing wealth is the essential driver of the American economic engine. Nothing could be further from the truth and this is the type of change they want.

    So where am I going with all this? It's quite simple. If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company, as our current President plans, I will have no choice but to reduce the size of this company. Rather than grow this company I will be forced to cut back. This means fewer jobs, less benefits and certainly less opportunity for everyone.

    So, when you make your decision to vote, ask yourself, which candidate understands the economics of business ownership and who doesn't? Whose policies will endanger your job? Answer those questions and you should know who might be the one capable of protecting and saving your job. While the media wants to tell you to believe the "1 percenters" are bad, I'm telling you they are not. They create most of the jobs. If you lose your job, it won't be at the hands of the "1%"; it will be at the hands of a political hurricane that swept through this country.

    You see, I can no longer support a system that penalizes the productive and gives to the unproductive. My motivation to work and to provide jobs will be destroyed, and with it, so will your opportunities. If that happens, you can find me in the Caribbean sitting on the beach, under a palm tree, retired, and with no employees to worry about.

    Signed, your boss,

    David Siegel


I am.... in awe.


Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: Howey on October 10, 2012, 12:19:11 pm
He stole an over four year old chain email. Fucking idiot!

This fuckwad made his money ripping people off with time shares that are pretty much worthless today.

How fucking honorable!

I wonder if he sent the same email out to his employees in 2008 under the Bush regime when he fired 300 (http://www.finance-trading-times.com/2008/09/westgate-resorts-lay-off-job-cut-to.html) of them?

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Not only are the financial companies getting affected by the credit crunch and the financial turmoil, even the other sectors are not shielded from the financial turmoil. Orlando-based Westgate Resorts, one of the nation's largest time-share companies, is going to close down much of its sales and preparing to lay off hundreds of people. Last year, Westgate Resorts celebrated its 25th Anniversary, but seems like 2008 or the 26th year, is not appearning to be fruitful to the company.

Though there are no certain numbers about how many people would be fired from their jobs at Westgate Resorts, but whatever is expected will happen in the next few days. Though the Westgate Resorts president David Siegel, confirmed that there would be hundreds of job cuts.

Which departments of Westgate Resorts will see the major job cuts?
The Westgate Resorts layoffs will be made in the construction, sales, accounting, telemarketing, marketing and administration departments companywide.
He said sales will be shut down for some of the company's 28 resorts in 11 states, but would not give specifics.

As per the news, Westgate Resorts - founded in 1970, was the seventh-largest employer in Central Florida with 8,113 workers in 2007. The company, the largest privately held time-share company in the world, employs more than 10,000 nationwide. Westgate is managing to pay all its bills and will continue to meet all its obligations. But he said there is no money for new business.

Gotta love the comments:

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up until today i was a current westgate resorts employee. the company gave me so much, but today after coming back from lunch i found that myself as well as many others no longer had jobs. within minutes years of hard work was terminated in moments notice. we packed our things, and left within minutes. its sad to see that all of our hard work, even some peoples years of hard work became nothing. wether you had been there for years or months, you now have to face the fact that monday, and tuesday, and wensday.... you have no job. now what are we suppost to do? now, right before the holidays of all times we are all in the dark on how our bills will be paid, or our children will be fed. i only hope that david, with his millions of dollars will at some point know what this feels like.


I'd love to see every single employee of the schmuck sit out a day or two of work.

Let him and his fat ass wife clean the rooms!
Oh. Welch? FIRED! Hah!


Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: reverend_darth on October 10, 2012, 01:45:06 pm
here's the whole email..it was too large to go above..


I am.... in awe.

See, he's a fuckin humanitarian unless you take away his motivation by voting for that god damned colored.  Then he goes to the beach and you're fucked.  But will he keep the mansion?  I suppose so since no one is gonna buy that monstrosity.


Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: ekg on October 10, 2012, 02:19:41 pm
this tactic really bothers me..

-hey, I know you're a woman and you want to ensure you get equal pay, but I'm more important and if you don't vote the way I want you to, I'll fire you.

-Yes, I know it's your body and your right to chose, but we're talking about me me now..so vote for my guy or I just close my doors and leave you without a job and your kids can starve.

-You're an adult who think you should be able to love any other adult of your choice? Go ahead, but this is my show.. so vote the way I tell you..or you're fired.

-sure, you're going to vote against your principles and interest, but I built this company on my own without any help.. I shouldn't have to subsidize you lower class of people who just think you should be born with the American dream available to you. Now vote away your rights, your principles and your interest because I told you to goddamn it!

He's fucking decided HE's the only one who counts.. It doesn't matter that his employee wants embryonic stem cell research because Alzheimer's runs in their family..  or if they care about the environment and want a president who does too.. it doesn't matter that they have serious issue with trusting Mitt Romney and really feel Obama is better for everyone... He'll fire them and destroy the local communities around him if they don't vote the way Boss Hog tells them to.. and the 49% of the population voting with him would cheer him on for it..and some of those would swear it's just the free-market that's all..

No, it's fucking Boss Hog!  It's Al Swearengen. It's feudal lords overseeing their slaves...it's unbelievable extortion.. and to say Obama uses 'Chicago tactic'..? This is strait up Capone..

It's unbelievable the fucking hubris of this mope... Donald Trump didn't even conceive of this... But I guarantee you, more and more like him will... al because to pay what they paid under Clinton, when we had the biggest job growth ever and more money than we knew what to do with..to offer workers insurance as a whole pooled company instead of telling them get their own fucking insurance.. under this president, shall just not be born..



Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: ekg on October 10, 2012, 02:58:57 pm
sorry D.. I marked all read and didn't see this as new when I posted..

Howey, will you put my thread in his...



Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: uselesslegs on October 10, 2012, 03:09:52 pm
"Let them eat cake."  It's that simple.  Everything they are, everything they've become...had no previous history or existence.  They simply *poofed* into existence and never, ever, ever used any portion of society or it's structure to be the fabulously wealthy individual they are today.

In a perfect world, the other 90 percent of society could just up and walk away from their jobs.  Just walk away and let these assbags find out how important your septic person is, garbage person, plumber, electrician, air traffic controller, EMT, teacher, farmer, cattle/pig farmers, police/fire people, retail sales, ditch digger, cable layer, pizza delivery, stock person, cashier, physical therapist, fuck'in broom maker.  The list is endless.  Assholes like Siegel, have no concept of how integrated every little piece of our society is.  How integral even the "lowliest" shit mucking job is to their path to prosperity. 


Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: ekg on October 11, 2012, 07:16:24 am
"Let them eat cake."  It's that simple.  Everything they are, everything they've become...had no previous history or existence.  They simply *poofed* into existence and never, ever, ever used any portion of society or it's structure to be the fabulously wealthy individual they are today.

In a perfect world, the other 90 percent of society could just up and walk away from their jobs.  Just walk away and let these assbags find out how important your septic person is, garbage person, plumber, electrician, air traffic controller, EMT, teacher, farmer, cattle/pig farmers, police/fire people, retail sales, ditch digger, cable layer, pizza delivery, stock person, cashier, physical therapist, fuck'in broom maker.  The list is endless.  Assholes like Siegel, have no concept of how integrated every little piece of our society is.  How integral even the "lowliest" shit mucking job is to their path to prosperity

and that's my issue here.. His peopel can't just walk away because there aren't many replacements jobs out there right now.. not too mention that I think this will become the 1st of many 1% doing the exact same thing.. so where would any of the employee go..

2, it wouldn't hurt them.. the Siegal's.. He's got a billion dollars already. He could close up shop tomorrow and it wouldn't hurt him in anyway... which is why  I said a boycott wouldn't hurt a bit so why even bother..

I think those are the reasons it really pisses me off, besides the principles of it.. it's done with immunity... and it can be repeated with immunity as well..



Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: 44nutman on October 11, 2012, 09:20:05 am
Darden Restaurants is threatening to do the same thing.


They forgot to mention they haven't had full time employees since the Bush days.
I just got in a discussion with a buddy of mine about Darden. I asked him if he ever worked in a restaurant, and of course he never did. I told him restaurants have been doing that since the late 90's-early 200's, when I was a bartender. There is a reason all restaurants work weeks end on Monday or Tuesday. Those are the slowest days and if you have too many hours they send your ass home. I told him most tip employees work off the clock a lot of times because they don't give a shit about the 2 bucks an hour. The managers look the other way, since it helps their bottom line.


Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: uselesslegs on October 11, 2012, 01:58:07 pm
I just got in a discussion with a buddy of mine about Darden. I asked him if he ever worked in a restaurant, and of course he never did. I told him restaurants have been doing that since the late 90's-early 200's, when I was a bartender. There is a reason all restaurants work weeks end on Monday or Tuesday. Those are the slowest days and if you have too many hours they send your ass home. I told him most tip employees work off the clock a lot of times because they don't give a shit about the 2 bucks an hour. The managers look the other way, since it helps their bottom line.

That's F'ed up.


Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: Howey on October 11, 2012, 02:59:26 pm
That's F'ed up.

They're all like that. When jb worked at Julians the gook bitch would go nuts if anyone clocked in before the first table was sat. But of course, someone had to get the place set up for these folks to sit, right?

Once the last customer left, everyone had to clock out. Then clean up.


Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: 44nutman on October 11, 2012, 04:31:43 pm
They're all like that. When jb worked at Julians the gook bitch would go nuts if anyone clocked in before the first table was sat. But of course, someone had to get the place set up for these folks to sit, right?

Once the last customer left, everyone had to clock out. Then clean up.

If someone picked up your shift that had too many hours but needed the money, if you had room hours wise, you would just let that person work under your number. The managers knew but once again, corporate would be up their ass about hours so they did not care. 
Dardens insurance was shit anyway. I had to get 6 stitches above my eye from taking a door to my head, it still cost me a couple hundred bucks with insurance back in the 90's. I was paying like 60 bucks every 2 weeks for insurance.
I used to open restaurants for Darden and was a bar trainer. Taught people how to pour a drink and flip bottles. A lot of the corporate big wigs that were new hires were required to go through my class. I did that shit for about a year and went back to bartending. Corporate Darden is like Stepford Wives, I could not deal with all the hypocrital bullshit and decided I did not want to be a restaurant manager which they were wanting me to do. Got a job appraising house and as Paul Harvey says, "that is the rest of the story"
I will say this, they did give you vacation pay one week every year anniversary. YOu could still work that week if you wanted but at servers/bartenders pay it was like an extra 100 bucks on your check. Back then not even enough to buy an 8-ball of coke.
The 30 hour rule applied even then. Trust me only the top people got thirty hours a week. I guess they should be blaming Bush Sr. since they were doing it then.


Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: Howey on October 11, 2012, 04:52:10 pm
I'm tellin ya...some of the stories I've heard and seen about the business are scary.

And trust me when I say the movie "Waiting" was more truth than fiction.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJEsNjH3JT8


Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: 44nutman on October 11, 2012, 09:21:31 pm
I'm tellin ya...some of the stories I've heard and seen about the business are scary.

And trust me when I say the movie "Waiting" was more truth than fiction.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJEsNjH3JT8
My buddy wrote that script. I read it before it became a movie.


Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: ekg on October 12, 2012, 11:10:57 am
it was pretty good movie..  I don't normally like that kind of 'teenage boy' humor.. but the 'made you look' game was pretty hilarious and  the payoff at the end when she 'flashed' them was awesome..


Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: 44nutman on October 12, 2012, 01:29:48 pm
it was pretty good movie..  I don't normally like that kind of 'teenage boy' humor.. but the 'made you look' game was pretty hilarious and  the payoff at the end when she 'flashed' them was awesome..
We used to play a modified version of that game. We never showed our junk. You made a circle with your fingers and if you could get anyone to look at it below your waist, you got to punch them. We would be hanging from ceilings just to get guys to look. It helped kill the time.


Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: ekg on October 13, 2012, 12:12:09 pm
We used to play a modified version of that game. We never showed our junk. You made a circle with your fingers and if you could get anyone to look at it below your waist, you got to punch them. We would be hanging from ceilings just to get guys to look. It helped kill the time.

HA!

boys...



 ;D


Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: Howey on October 13, 2012, 01:33:35 pm
HA!

boys...



 ;D

Wanna know what I used to do with the bois? Over 21.

Oh and someone better get laid tonight! Details doon.


Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: reverend_darth on October 13, 2012, 06:23:41 pm
Wanna know what I used to do with the bois? Over 21.


Huuuuuuuuuuuurl, puke, retch, dry heave, stick fork in eye, lalalalalalalalalala can't hear you.  I wonder the torture it must be every day to wake up, look in the mirror, and know that you're a fuckin genetic mutation and can do nothing about it.  At least Downs tards are given the gift of being tards so they don't know.


Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: ekg on October 15, 2012, 07:59:07 am
The term economic terrorism is strictly defined to indicate an attempt at economic destabilization by a group. More precisely, in 2005 the Geneva Centre for Security Policy defined economic terrorism in the following terms:

    Contrary to "economic warfare" which is undertaken by states against other states, "economic terrorism" would be undertaken by transnational or non-state actors. This could entail varied, coordinated and sophisticated or massive destabilizing actions in order to disrupt the economic and financial stability of a state, a group of states or a society (such as market oriented western societies) for ideological or religious motives. These actions, if undertaken, may be violent or not. They could have either immediate effects or carry psychological effects which in turn have economic consequences.[1]


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In an interview, Jon Ralston, host of Ralston Reports on NBC-affiliate KSNV MyNews3 in Nevada, asked Wynn: “You called him [Obama] a socialist. You called the president a socialist. And you used this memorable phrase that business leaders quote, ‘were sitting on their thumbs until he’s gone.’ But they’re not really. I mean, you’re not -- you haven’t been doing that?”

“Yes I have,” Wynn said.
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”Wynn then explained that a pair of troubled business men in Vegas came up to him with a business proposal to renovate a property of theirs and turn it into a new hotel and they’d call it the Wynn Plaza. He was all for it but decided to scrap it because of uncertainty about what steps the federal government might take against businesses.

When asked what happened to the proposal, Wynn said he was unsure what President Obama would do next.

“I’m afraid of the president,” said Wynn.  “I have no idea what goofy idea, what crazy, anti-business program this administration will come up. I have no idea. And I have to tell you, Jon, that every business guy I know in the country is frightened of Barack Obama and the way he thinks.”

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ceo-wynn-i-m-afraid-president


and then this terrorist says in another interview..and let's face it, 'terrorist' is what he is.. he's sitting on billions  'in order to disrupt the economic and financial stability of a state, a group of states or a society for ideological or religious motives'


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Uncertainty over tax structure, health care and job market stability is heightening tensions and making it difficult for entrepreneurship, the owner of Wynn Resorts [WYNN  Loading...      ()   ] and critic of President Obama said in an interview.

"That can probably explain to you why I've become so concerned about what's happening in Washington, because it's affecting the living standards of my employees," he said. "They're all filled with anxieties these days."
http://www.cnbc.com/id/49387601


he explains that his employees see the debt/deficit and the economy and they're scared.. Of course being told to vote for who your inbred,over-privileged,bastard of a boss who's not only trying to destabilize the financial market of the country you live in for his own gain, but will also fire you for voting in your interests... says to vote for.. has no bearing on their anxiety..



Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: uselesslegs on October 15, 2012, 01:41:37 pm
I get some of the potential worry over what may transpire under new health care guide lines. How will employers adapt and what will it REALLY mean to the bottom line.  From what I've read, 95 or 97 percent of small businesses won't be affected/effected(?) in the way that's being shit-shuttled around.

What it sounds like to me is that these particular assholes want absolute guarantees as opposed to assurances that you understand of the business market.  There can't be absolute guarantees, otherwise it's not actually free market capitalism.  If there's no risk involved, on some level (as the world around you changes legislatively and otherwise), then what he's really saying is he's not going to do a damn thing until someone gives him a wink that he's not risking shit. 

If President Obama actually did what they wanted and ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEED no risk on any level, with full reimbursement should legislation or the mean ole world throw a nasty curve ball, these same assholes would have STILL found a way to sit on all that capital, complain, and make it all Obama's fault. 

USUALLY *money* doesn't know any color.  Whatever generates more is just peachy.  But these jackwads decided that prosperity and profit weren't going to be linked to a black democratic President.  Terrorism indeed.


Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: ekg on October 18, 2012, 11:47:07 am
awesome... here's what Siegal said in July..

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His company, Westgate Resorts, this year is also hiring 1,500 new employees, closing on $450 million in mortgage-backed securities in the first such transactions since 2007, and fending off banks that he says "are throwing money at us now."

"We're the most profitable we've ever been," Siegel told Reuters, projecting nearly $500 million in gross sales this year and expecting to be debt-free within two and a half years.
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"I'll be the first to admit in 2008, we were fat," said Siegel who said gross revenue topped $1 billion that year. "We had departments that were maybe out of control. I was making so much money I didn't care. I didn't know what to do with the money. That's why I was building this big home."

Then came the crash, and Siegel cut payroll at Westgate from 12,000 people to 5,000, drastically reducing overhead costs. He said the company also became choosier about the potential buyers it qualifies.

As a result, Siegel said, the sales force now closes deals with 25 percent of the potential buyers it engages, compared with a typical time-share closing rate of 10 percent to 15 percent, increasing net profit on the deals.

"We got lean and mean. We're basically doing what the whole country should be doing. We're living within our means. The company today is more profitable than it was back in its heyday of 2008 in terms of actual profit. We're more profitable today than we have been in our history," Siegel said of his 30-year-old firm.

SOooooooooooo much money he didn't know what to do with it...as soon as he took a hit tho, he knew how to keep it.. he dumped 7000 employees..

SOoooooooooooooo much more money now, that if Obama's elected, he'll fire his employees for voting for him.

btw, this is the same guy who claims to be the reason GWB was elected, because as he says, he had his managers go around to all his employees and ask if they were (R) or (D).. if they were (R) he forced them to register to vote, if they were (D) he ignored them...

would love to know how many of the 7000 he fired were the (D)..


I guess we should really feel sorry for his poor wife who had to go from 15 housekeepers down to 1... but she did get 5 nannies to become housekeepers.... I bet the nannies loved that "Want to keep your job? Start scrubbing my toilet so I can fire the maid..

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Jacqueline Siegel, a former Mrs. Florida who now owns the pageant franchise, accomplished her own version of recessionary budgeting, paring housekeeping staff from 15 to one and enlisting the five nannies for the family's eight children, who are aged 5 to 18, to help with chores in their spare time.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/30/uk-usa-orlando-siegel-idUSLNE86T02B20120730

to help with 'chores'... wtf can't the kids to do 'chores'? what a fucking peach these people are,huh?..



Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: ekg on October 18, 2012, 12:06:16 pm
oh and BTW... Romney encouraged this is June, in a conference call with these assholes..


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In a June conference call hosted by the conservative-leaning National Federation of Independent Businesses, Mitt Romney encouraged business owners to let their employees know which candidate they support and how the election's outcome will affect their business.

During a telephone town hall with small-business owners, first reported by In These Times, Romney said President Barack Obama's policies have hurt employers, criticizing the president on trade, labor, and his signature health care law.

"It's an anti-business, anti-job agenda," Romney said.

At the end of the call, Romney urged business owners to relay their thoughts on the election to their employees.

"I hope you make it very clear to your employees what you believe is in the best interest of your enterprise and therefore their job and their future in the upcoming elections," Romney said. "And whether you agree with me or you agree with President Obama, or whatever your political view, I hope, I hope you pass those along to your employees."

He continued: "Nothing illegal about you talking to your employees about what you believe is best for the business, because I think that will figure into their election decision, their voting decision, and of course doing that with your family and your kids as well. I particularly think our young kids ... they need to understand that American runs on a strong and vibrant business and we need businesses growing and thriving this country."

Romney is correct that such behavior is not illegal. After the Supreme Court's Citizens United ruling, which greatly expanded corporations and unions' political speech, employers can legally compel workers to participate in political campaigns.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/17/mitt-romney-employees-voting_n_1975636.html


and it's  gaining more and more traction..


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Arthur Allen, CEO of ASG Software Solutions, made a similar plea in a pro-Romney email leaked last week.

"If we fail as a nation to make the right choice on November 6th, and we lose our independence as a company, I don’t want to hear any complaints regarding the fallout that will most likely come," Allen wrote.


kinda amazing..


Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: uselesslegs on October 18, 2012, 03:48:38 pm
It's sick is what it is.  Twisted and sick.  I'm actually scared to death now of winning a lotto or a book of mine hitting gold (both astronomically likely not to ever happen).  I'm scared I'll turn into one of those financial sociopaths.  I'm scared I'll turn into one of those kids with two toy boxes full of toys I haven't touched in years, and when mom comes to ask if I'd like to donate one of them for a Christmas gift to someone less fortunate...I'll lose my fuckin mind and turn almost homicidal at the mere suggestion.

Siegel, and people like him, will never truly want for anything for the rest of their lives.  They will never go without food (for their children), shelter (for their children), clothing (for their children) medical care (for their children), transportation (for their children), schooling (for their children).  Everything else...is a bonus. Everything else is a desire, not a need.  How dare he and these other assholes pretend they're anywhere near some dire survival threshold and by proxy, so are their employees.  He doesn't need that house, he and his wife just want it.  He could be living in a spacious 10 or 15 room mansion and still enjoy his steak just as much, while he looks down on the peons.  I have no doubt he worked hard. I have no doubt a lot of luck and connections were involved.  I have no doubt he stepped on more than his fair share of necks.  But his "empire" isn't shit without the people who bought his crap, the people he hired to expand it, or the Government and Society who protected it.  He's a wanna be feudal lord, pretending the bread he eats and the luxury he enjoys comes with sovereignty over those with less, usurping even their thoughts.  He's a piece of shit!


Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: reverend_darth on October 18, 2012, 08:15:03 pm
I've always said that if you win the short money <$4Million lottery your life will be hell because every one you know will think that you're fuckin rich but your not.   The 4 turns into around 2.4 after taxes which will give you about 125K pretax income for that year if invested in a typical relatively safe investment.  So $85k or so a year net.  Not rich but just fine, and you still have to worry about your investments doing reasonably well over time.  Now what in the fuck could be more fun than a room full of hot whores drugged up and cramming their cunts into King Howey's face than if you win 60 and can give half of it away to family and friends and still know pretty much no that no matter what that you're set for fuckin life?  I think that with the uber rich it's just a contest to see who can get the most to prove that they're better than the other uber rich fuck.  It's an ego thing.  Why?  I have no idea?  I believe it's just a game to them at that point.  Hell I'd just sip vodka on the beach and get blow jobs all day but I guess I'm a slacker.  I respect the Bill Gates and Warren Buffets of the world who realize that they have everything they possibly need or want and that they can't take it with them so that they just might help the world by using a good part of their wealth to improve life on the planet.  What do Carter and Clinton have in common?  They spend their retirement days trying to help people.   What do the Bush's do?  Fuck if I know?


Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: ekg on October 18, 2012, 09:15:16 pm
I've always said that if you win the short money <$4Million lottery your life will be hell because every one you know will think that you're fuckin rich but your not.   The 4 turns into around 2.4 after taxes which will give you about 125K pretax income for that year if invested in a typical relatively safe investment.  So $85k or so a year net.  Not rich but just fine, and you still have to worry about your investments doing reasonably well over time.  Now what in the fuck could be more fun than a room full of hot whores drugged up and cramming their cunts into King Howey's face than if you win 60 and can give half of it away to family and friends and still know pretty much no that no matter what that you're set for fuckin life?  I think that with the uber rich it's just a contest to see who can get the most to prove that they're better than the other uber rich fuck.  It's an ego thing.  Why?  I have no idea?  I believe it's just a game to them at that point.  Hell I'd just sip vodka on the beach and get blow jobs all day but I guess I'm a slacker.  I respect the Bill Gates and Warren Buffets of the world who realize that they have everything they possibly need or want and that they can't take it with them so that they just might help the world by using a good part of their wealth to improve life on the planet.  What do Carter and Clinton have in common?  They spend their retirement days trying to help people.   What do the Bush's do?  Fuck if I know?

That's what it is... it's the Gordon Gecko Game and they're all playing to top one another because after so many 100's of millions.. what else is there to do?

and you know what.. more power to them. Where would we be without that to dream of when we're laying in bed and can't sleep at night because the power is going to be turned off tomorrow..  the money is not the problem.. it's the fucking 'greed' that distorts them that is.. You mentioned Gates and Buffet, they have BILLIONS! and BILLIONS and dozens more BILLIONS.. and I have no doubt in my mind they have been as dirty and cut throat and 'greedy' as the rest.. but they don't shit on those below them for the pure joy of it.. They don't..(to quote Chuck) "wanna be feudal lord, pretending the bread he eats and the luxury he enjoys comes with sovereignty over those with less, usurping even their thoughts."

it's that that makes them the fucking assholes... and since they're already so fucking warped about their 'money' they automatically think that's what we're pissed at or jealous of..

no, it's that you're mr. fucking Burns about it, you fuck!


Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: ekg on October 18, 2012, 09:35:27 pm
I've always said that if you win the short money <$4Million lottery your life will be hell because every one you know will think that you're fuckin rich but your not.  

HA!

I'll go to get a lotto ticket without paying attention to the 'prize' amount.. then get in the car, look and see that it's >$3 million and actually get pissed at myself for wasting the money... because it would be just my luck to 'waste' my lotto win on such a small and relatively worthless prize as that..

how fucked up is it that a $1-3million lotto ticket just isn't enough.

don't get me wrong.. I'd have a great cpl years.. but I'm too young for it to be enough to retire on.. and after I bought the small house, say $150K with $50K of personal renovations (solar,wind,hurricane shutters since I want something on the river..), the obligatory new car for me and him..maybe a newer used for the kids...and something for the parents, inlaws and a place down here for Chuck and his mom closer to his brother.... plus the immediate family members (brothers and such).. on a $2million prize, after taxes and lump sum payout(because getting it at $150k a year would blow).. I've got less than $800K.. and that's just what I'll need for when I can retire at 65 to live off off the rest of my life.. so from now til then.. my happy ass is still working...

grrrrrrrrrrr


(btw, I love him.. but can I watch the whore/cunt Howie party ;D ;D)


Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: reverend_darth on October 18, 2012, 09:55:03 pm

(btw, I love him.. but can I watch the whore/cunt Howie party ;D ;D)

You can be one of the gashes to shove your cunt into his mouth.  It'd be like a little kid getting soap put into his mouth.  Christ the look on his face?  Spitting.  Retching.  Fuckin priceless!  What I wouldn't give...


Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: uselesslegs on October 18, 2012, 10:06:00 pm
The sentiment is much much appreciated, but you never have to do something like that sista.  I would, however, like to ride the A train for a couple of weeks.  Awwwwww Yea.


Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: Howey on October 18, 2012, 10:09:06 pm
You can be one of the gashes to shove your cunt into his mouth.  It'd be like a little kid getting soap put into his mouth.  Christ the look on his face?  Spitting.  Retching.  Fuckin priceless!  What I wouldn't give...

You'd be surprised the things I'll stick my tongue out to lick.


Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: reverend_darth on October 18, 2012, 10:25:28 pm
You'd be surprised the things I'll stick my tongue out to lick.


LALALALALALALALALALALALALA can't hear you.  Don't want to fuckin puke.


Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: Howey on October 19, 2012, 01:56:11 am
tee hee


Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: ekg on October 20, 2012, 12:42:29 pm
hAHAAHAHAHAHA...


Title: Re: What a fucking tool!
Post by: ekg on October 20, 2012, 12:47:48 pm
The sentiment is much much appreciated, but you never have to do something like that sista.  I would, however, like to ride the A train for a couple of weeks.  Awwwwww Yea.

It's your dime brotha..

(http://thekidstrain.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/best_train_pic.3390652.jpg)

 ;D ;) ;)