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Title: David Koch Donates to Fight Cancer While His Company Fights the Regulation of Ca Post by: FooFa on March 11, 2011, 01:24:06 am Quote Scientists, politicians and Nobel laureates lauded billionaire David H. Koch at an event on March 4, 2011 for donating hundreds of millions of dollars to cancer research. Koch decided to put money towards cancer research after he contracted prostate cancer in 1992. But one of Koch's companies, Georgia Pacific, produces formaldehyde, which the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency says causes cancer in animals, and may cause cancer in humans. Moreover, Georgia Pacific has been lobbying to keep the EPA from listing formaldehyde as a human carcinogen. While he has donated millions to science, Koch's company, the oil/coal/chemical/paper conglomerate Koch Industries, is known to be a major polluter, and Greenpeace has called Koch "a kingpin of climate change denial." Meanwhile, Koch's PR offensive continues with the big profile in the New York Times, headlined "Cancer Research Before Activism, Koch Brother Says." The Center for Media and Democracy--which has profiled the political activities of the company leaders and Mr. Koch's investment in special interest groups to push his ideological agenda--responded by noting, "The truth is that it costs a lot more to cure cancer than to buy influence with a politician through donations or provide the funding to fuel a bunch of special interest groups to peddle policy, push talking points, and pay for expensive ad campaigns" said Lisa Graves, CMD's executive director, adding "A little money goes a long way in the business of manufacturing consent; it's apparently and unfortunately got a great return on investment." http://www.prwatch.org/node/10285Main Source: New York Times, March 4, 2011 Title: Re: David Koch Donates to Fight Cancer While His Company Fights the Regulation o Post by: Howey on March 11, 2011, 08:17:18 am I was going to explain why the Koch's are philanthropists but it was already done in your quote.
4 in the penance. Title: Re: David Koch Donates to Fight Cancer While His Company Fights the Regulation of Ca Post by: uselesslegs on March 14, 2011, 03:14:59 pm It's like the schlocky comedian who puts up one hand to tell the audience to please quit applauding, while he uses the other hand to signal that they should keep on slapping those hands together.
Ninja's call this, distraction. Title: Re: David Koch Donates to Fight Cancer While His Company Fights the Regulation of Ca Post by: clc on March 14, 2011, 03:32:10 pm It may be distraction, but money is money, and it's being put towards a useful cause.
Title: Re: David Koch Donates to Fight Cancer While His Company Fights the Regulation of Ca Post by: uselesslegs on March 14, 2011, 03:58:18 pm It may be distraction, but money is money, and it's being put towards a useful cause. Agreed. There was this little rumor waaaaaaaayyyyy back in the day, that one of the kids (unidentified) at MDA summer camp's father was a drug kingpin and that he threw some serious bucks at the week long get together so his child (and the rest) could have a bang up time. I never seem to recall it being investigated...or more to the matter...If true, they were fine with it. I do remember several years of camp, that when the kid in question attended, it was out of this worrrlllddd. Loading "everyone" up for Disney world, all paid for, all food paid for, t-shirt's, jackets, fantasy pieces...all paid for, for EACH kid. Same thing with Sea World the following year. Same thing with Bush Gardens the next. Live local talent playing for the kids at camp, different acts, several times during each week long camp session. It was the craziest friggin shit. When the kid passed away, it all stopped. Finger painting and shitty camp food took over. Coincidence? Perhaps. But I like to think some of my Disney memento's, from then, that I still have to this day...have some Scarface on them. I'm a sucker for treasured nostalgia *snniiiiffffffffffffffff* Title: Re: David Koch Donates to Fight Cancer While His Company Fights the Regulation of Ca Post by: Howey on March 14, 2011, 04:19:45 pm Agreed. There was this little rumor waaaaaaaayyyyy back in the day, that one of the kids (unidentified) at MDA summer camp's father was a drug kingpin and that he threw some serious bucks at the week long get together so his child (and the rest) could have a bang up time. I never seem to recall it being investigated...or more to the matter...If true, they were fine with it. I do remember several years of camp, that when the kid in question attended, it was out of this worrrlllddd. Loading "everyone" up for Disney world, all paid for, all food paid for, t-shirt's, jackets, fantasy pieces...all paid for, for EACH kid. Same thing with Sea World the following year. Same thing with Bush Gardens the next. Live local talent playing for the kids at camp, different acts, several times during each week long camp session. It was the craziest friggin shit. When the kid passed away, it all stopped. Finger painting and shitty camp food took over. Coincidence? Perhaps. But I like to think some of my Disney memento's, from then, that I still have to this day...have some Scarface on them. I'm a sucker for treasured nostalgia *snniiiiffffffffffffffff* Beats the hell outta that Jesus camp my parents unloaded me on. But I did learn to ride horses European one summer. And was sent to Switzerland for my sweet 16th. ;D Title: Re: David Koch Donates to Fight Cancer While His Company Fights the Regulation of Ca Post by: lil mike on March 16, 2011, 10:20:55 pm These Koch brothers...
They donate to the ACLU They support gay marriage They oppose the patriot act They oppose the two wars we are in They want the defense budget reduced Clearly they must be stopped! :D Title: Re: David Koch Donates to Fight Cancer While His Company Fights the Regulation of Ca Post by: uselesslegs on March 16, 2011, 10:40:26 pm These Koch brothers... They donate to the ACLU They support gay marriage They oppose the patriot act They oppose the two wars we are in They want the defense budget reduced Clearly they must be stopped! :D Do they have a rooster in any of those games that would affect them drastically? Just wondering sir. Title: Re: David Koch Donates to Fight Cancer While His Company Fights the Regulation of Ca Post by: Howey on March 17, 2011, 12:15:41 pm These Koch brothers... They donate to the ACLU They support gay marriage They oppose the patriot act They oppose the two wars we are in They want the defense budget reduced Clearly they must be stopped! :D Wow. Since you didn't put a source of that, I had to find it. Go figure... IMPEACH OBAMA TODAY! (http://impeachobamatoday.blogspot.com/2011/03/koch-brothers-favor-some-of-lefts-major.html) Quote Koch brothers favor some of the left's major planks, so why is the left trying to silence them? . "The Kochs spend about a tenth as much annually on political/intellectual causes as does left-wing billionaire George Soros–which doesn’t stop shameless Soros grantees from suggesting that the Kochs are somehow doing something evil by using their money to support causes they believe in." Some of which are the same causes advanced by Soros grantees. The Koch brothers don't function as heads of state as Soros does, meeting with leaders around the world advocating tax increases for Americans and enjoying official posts with the UN. I love how they quote "sources"! THIS (http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/02/03/koch_chick_fil_a_liberals), unlike the above, is a good piece on the Koch Brothers. Quote As we all know, billionaires and huge successful corporations are afforded certain inalienable rights under the First Amendment, including the right to spend billions on rolling back regulations of their chosen industries and the right to not ever suffer any sort of popular backlash for their actions. (That second right is best explicated by noted legal scholar Sarah Palin, whose interpretation of the Bill of Rights is based on the extensive research performed by Usenet trolls and banned blog commenters.) But some people (liberals) don't believe in freedom. These liberal bigots are trampling on the rights of some of America's most vulnerable citizens: the Koch brothers and the fast-foot chain Chik-fil-A. The Koch brothers, who use their vast fortunes to encourage the creation of political consensus around various government policies that allow them to pollute as much as they want in order to make as much of a profit while sacrificing as little of said fortunes to the tyrannical government as possible (they'd rather spend a million dollars on a libertarian think tank than see one cent of that hard-earned money go to a wasteful big government school lunch program), held their annual retreat in Rancho Mirage, Calif., last weekend. A bunch of liberals protested the event, in order to call attention to the obscene wealth of the brothers and the ways they use that wealth to quietly influence the political process in their favor. The simple fact is that whatever amount the Koch's sling towards liberal causes is a drop in their massive bucket of libertarian poop. Even Hitler had his good side. He helped develop the Autobahn and the VW. :-[ Title: Re: David Koch Donates to Fight Cancer While His Company Fights the Regulation of Ca Post by: lil mike on March 20, 2011, 08:18:41 pm Wow. Since you didn't put a source of that, I had to find it. Go figure... IMPEACH OBAMA TODAY! (http://impeachobamatoday.blogspot.com/2011/03/koch-brothers-favor-some-of-lefts-major.html) I love how they quote "sources"! THIS (http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/02/03/koch_chick_fil_a_liberals), unlike the above, is a good piece on the Koch Brothers. The simple fact is that whatever amount the Koch's sling towards liberal causes is a drop in their massive bucket of libertarian poop. Even Hitler had his good side. He helped develop the Autobahn and the VW. :-[ Oye, again with the Hitler! These were my sources http://reason.com/blog/2011/02/23/koched-out-of-their-skulls (http://reason.com/blog/2011/02/23/koched-out-of-their-skulls) http://reason.com/blog/2011/02/24/evil-koch-bros-support (http://reason.com/blog/2011/02/24/evil-koch-bros-support) Interesting that you dislike them not for their conservative positions but their libertarian ones. Yeah that whole freedom thing does get in the way of your schemes. |