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Title: where's the outrage over keynesian economics now?
Post by: ekg on December 08, 2013, 12:52:26 pm
So unemployment is down to 7%.. the lowest it's been since before the 08 crash..  and it's not just part-time or low paying jobs.. it's good jobs as well..

http://money.cnn.com/2013/12/06/news/economy/november-jobs-report/?hpt=hp_t1

the federal gov't is still shedding jobs.. even tho the Right continues to whine about gov't being to big and gov't employees getting too much money..

manufacturing and construction jobs are up..

Quote
2013 is on track to be the best year for job creation since 2005

and this..

"The United States lost 8.7 million jobs in the aftermath of the financial crisis. As of November, it had gained about 7.4 million of those jobs back"[/b]

happened even after all the G'damn obstruction the Right did to prevent any type of recovery.. In spite of their overwhelming Un-support of anything to grow the economy,increase jobs and make our lives a little less of a living hell.. Stocks are at record highs,both wars have or are ending,we're less dependent on foreign oil than we've ever been, we have healthcare and now jobs are returning...

wow.. all presidents should be secret muslim,socialist,usurpers...


Title: Re: where's the outrage over keynesian economics now?
Post by: paddymcdougall on December 08, 2013, 01:12:04 pm
And Pres Obama will get no credit for any of it... but it's amazing for such a communist that he's helped the private sector so much. What a deeply buried Manchurian candidate! When exactly will he be taking all the guns and making the country communist?


Title: Re: where's the outrage over keynesian economics now?
Post by: uselesslegs on December 08, 2013, 05:13:23 pm
It's those dueling realities constantly clashing, it makes the far right bonkers.

Here's what I don't get.  I don't get how people, even individuals who don't follow politics, don't lose their fucking minds that there is a faction of our Government, openly and purposely trying to tank us for positioning.  The obstructionism isn't to *protect us.* Even the far right devotees who live, breath and eat fear, paranoia and anger every single day, are starting to get that little glimmer of "Wtf?" in their eyes.  I know they'll never truly be able to step outside of the bubble, but tiny holes are finally being poked in, just enough that only the most ideologically devout are able to defiantly ignore glimpsing what's on the other side of those holes.

This is what happens when you make everything absolutely black or white.  It creates contradictions..contradictions you must now defend or attempt to explain away. Rarely will you find any item that doesn't consist of multiple layers.  Sometimes you get lucky and something is exactly what it represents itself to be, but most of the time there's more involved.  Things you agree with, things you don't, but rarely will you be just checking off only one side of a list.

For instance, (Darth will know who I'm talking about) I have a friend who posts daily on FB about President Obama.  This person has become incapable of finding anything positive or redeeming in what President Obama does or who he is. I mean...anything.  On the rare occasion where he is challenged or someone points out something is exaggerated...it doesn't matter. You will never see them say, "Oh, my bad, I thought *this* was true. Well good for them/him/us."  It turns into them jumping to another item, not yet challenged or perhaps even true, that affords them the ability to bypass the contradiction without real comment. Or despite the information, they prefer what they were told/read...and they'll stick with that.  And presto, the absolutism stays intact.

I mean for the love of Pete, I was no fan of W., but due is due man.  There was never this all out concerted effort on my part to ignore anything that didn't satisfy a devout D vs. R mentality.  Nor, even while I took umbrage with something he said or policy at times, to do so purely for the purpose of making him fit some villain role.  I can't hate just to hate.  And I can't ignore part of reality to facilitate the hate.


Title: Re: where's the outrage over keynesian economics now?
Post by: Howey on December 08, 2013, 05:39:15 pm
Quote from: NOVA;1383436
.2% stopped participating......unemployment rate down .3 %

Whats the mean christiefan ?



For what, the hundredth time?, baby boomers are retiring/going on disability at an astonishing rate. I believe I quoted the number retiring a few months ago at 100k per week?

Thanks to that, and rapid technological and IT growth, the job market is markedly different than ten years ago.

But you just go ahead and blame the niggrah for folks getting old. At least they have Obamacare to keep them alive longer.I just posted this on JPP in response to one of the tards






Title: Re: where's the outrage over keynesian economics now?
Post by: Howey on December 08, 2013, 05:41:12 pm
It's those dueling realities constantly clashing, it makes the far right bonkers.

Here's what I don't get.  I don't get how people, even individuals who don't follow politics, don't lose their fucking minds that there is a faction of our Government, openly and purposely trying to tank us for positioning.  The obstructionism isn't to *protect us.* Even the far right devotees who live, breath and eat fear, paranoia and anger every single day, are starting to get that little glimmer of "Wtf?" in their eyes.  I know they'll never truly be able to step outside of the bubble, but tiny holes are finally being poked in, just enough that only the most ideologically devout are able to defiantly ignore glimpsing what's on the other side of those holes.

This is what happens when you make everything absolutely black or white.  It creates contradictions..contradictions you must now defend or attempt to explain away. Rarely will you find any item that doesn't consist of multiple layers.  Sometimes you get lucky and something is exactly what it represents itself to be, but most of the time there's more involved.  Things you agree with, things you don't, but rarely will you be just checking off only one side of a list.

For instance, (Darth will know who I'm talking about) I have a friend who posts daily on FB about President Obama.  This person has become incapable of finding anything positive or redeeming in what President Obama does or who he is. I mean...anything.  On the rare occasion where he is challenged or someone points out something is exaggerated...it doesn't matter. You will never see them say, "Oh, my bad, I thought *this* was true. Well good for them/him/us."  It turns into them jumping to another item, not yet challenged or perhaps even true, that affords them the ability to bypass the contradiction without real comment. Or despite the information, they prefer what they were told/read...and they'll stick with that.  And presto, the absolutism stays intact.

I mean for the love of Pete, I was no fan of W., but due is due man.  There was never this all out concerted effort on my part to ignore anything that didn't satisfy a devout D vs. R mentality.  Nor, even while I took umbrage with something he said or policy at times, to do so purely for the purpose of making him fit some villain role.  I can't hate just to hate.  And I can't ignore part of reality to facilitate the hate.

Iceman?