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Title: what will they do now? Post by: ekg on April 27, 2011, 11:08:45 am http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/27/obama-birth-certificate-r_n_854248.html
Obama Birth Certificate Released By White House (PHOTO) (http://i.huffpost.com/gen/270938/OBAMA-BIRTH-CERTIFICATE-LONG-FORM.jpg) I'm waiting for the "where's the rest, this doesn't say whether he was born by c-section or vagina.. how do we know he isn't a pod-person!" Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: ekg on April 27, 2011, 11:26:15 am well, drudge wasted no time
headline.. THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE: IS IT REAL?. the link... with the questions. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/barack-obama/birth-obama-certer-movement-098513 the comments.. Quote The birth certificate is real. Notice the mother's age when Barack was born is 18 years old. That means that he is not a "natural born citizen" and has never been the President of the USA! That is why he didn't want anyone to see it. What's more since he was not a "natural born citizen" he would have had to proclaim his US citizenship when he was 21 to retain it. His college records show that he claimed that he was not a US citizen so that he could attend college on a foreign natural schollarship. Thank goodness we don't have to repeal Obama Care. It never happened! Quote Ok let's find another Gestation Completion by a live Fetus Certification same date same hospial- then I'll be convinced. Watch out for the casino bailout for Trump and the GE/Google perks he was promised. Don't believe it? ...link removed... Quote Obvious forgery. Look at the 41 at the top right of document. It has obviously been altered. oy vey.. Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: 44nutman on April 27, 2011, 11:39:04 am My birth certificate has my footprints and handprints on it. I noticed Obama's does not, I think he is trying to hide his cloven feet.
Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: Howey on April 27, 2011, 11:42:48 am My birth certificate has my footprints and handprints on it. I noticed Obama's does not, I think he is trying to hide his cloven feet. Hah! I've been sooo busy this morning I missed all this until we turned on MSNBC on XM. Right after the speech. POTUS take down! I love our new presidential ballz! Did he need to do it? No. Should he have done it? Maybe not. Will it shut up the crazies? Of course not! Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: Howey on April 27, 2011, 12:00:36 pm My birth certificate has my footprints and handprints on it. I noticed Obama's does not, I think he is trying to hide his cloven feet. Why would he want to have that done? The the real secret, the real real real real secret his father, mother, grandmother, especially his great grandmother Cheetah didn't want to get out would be revealed! (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/8b2f20aeda.jpg) (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/) Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: Howey on April 27, 2011, 03:26:55 pm Poor fucker can't win!
(http://www.kspr.com/sns-ap-obama-birthcertificate-gop,0,6998760.story) Quote The chairman of the Republication National Committee says the issue of President Barack Obama's birth certificate is a distraction. But in a statement, RNC Chairman Reince Priebus (ryns PREE'-bus) also accuses Obama of playing campaign politics by addressing that issue. Priebus says Obama "ought to spend his time getting serious about repairing our economy." Instead, he says, Obama is being distracted by what Priebus calls "his campaign politics and talk about birth certificates." The GOP chief says the economy is the nation's "number one priority." Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: Howey on April 27, 2011, 03:31:34 pm http://themoderatevoice.com/107718/trump-implies-obama-got-into-college-on-affirmative-action-and-demands-proof-he-was-a-good-student-no-joke/
Quote If there was any doubt that Donald Trump — for all of his enormous potential as a high profile candidate with pizazz and an authenic business background — is the most reprehensible potential candidate of either party to have come on the scene, it has now been erased. In an interview with AP he in effect discreetly raises the racism card by saying Barack Obama was a “terrible student” — and (you guessed it) demanding Obama prove he was a good student. No, this is not a joke or snark. Trump says that because Obama never released his college transcripts he must do so to prove he was a good student. You learn something new every day: I never knew that the Harvard Law Review invited slackers. Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: 44nutman on April 27, 2011, 03:39:53 pm looks like another birth certificate has just been released.
(http://images.wikia.com/wikiality/images/7/78/ObamaBirthCertificate.gif) Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: Howey on April 27, 2011, 04:05:30 pm They won't quit. (http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/04/tea-party-nation-hold-your-horses----weve-got-some-other-questions-about-obamas-eligibility.php)
Quote Judson Phillips, founder of Tea Party Nation, says that it's all well and good that President Obama has released his long-form birth certificate, but there are still several other questions about his "eligibility" and background that need answering. Among them: Why won't the President release his school records, and is he hiding the fact that he was on a foreign student scholarship? In an interview with TPM, Phillips said that he's "glad" the President released the birth certificate, but he thinks that's just one part of the greater issue of his "eligibility." The new question? Whether President Obama is a natural-born citizen since his father was a British subject in Kenya. Another? Whether the President lost his citizenship when he was supposedly adopted by his Indonesian stepfather... The first claim seems to have mutated from the theory that Obama is ineligible because his father is Kenyan and therefore the President has dual citizenship. Factcheck.org debunked this long ago, pointing out that Obama automatically lost any claim to Kenyan citizenship when he turned 23. As for the second claim, FactCheck points out that U.S. statute specifies that someone would have to be over 18 to lose their citizenship for that of another country, and Obama was six at the time the supposed adoption took place. But color Phillips unconvinced. For one thing, "certainly a great deal of time and effort has been expended to keep [the birth certificate] secret, and the question he asks is: 'Why?'" For another, Phillips wondered, why won't the President release his records from college? "I have found it very disturbing that president Obama has not released all his records," he told TPM, noting that there's a "rumor that Obama attended Occidental [College] on a scholarship reserved for foreign students." That rumor seems to have originated from a chain e-mail based on a fake AP story. Though Phillips said these are all important questions, he stipulated: "I'm a little bit more concerned about his attorney disciplinary record. That's certainly a whole lot more recent than the grades." Know what? I don't want them to quit. I want them to keep up the crazy. The Republican Party is a shell of it's former self. It's been deligitimized to a far greater extent that any Drudge, Breitbart, WND, CNS, KKK, lilMike, Sarah, Donald, Teabagger, or any other fruit out there can try to do to the President. It's race. I never was convinced it was all racism, but it is. Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: 44nutman on April 27, 2011, 04:08:31 pm So when is Trump releasing his last 10 years of tax returns?
The GOP needs to get these loons in line. They are letting the fringe make a mockery of their party. Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: Howey on April 27, 2011, 04:16:37 pm So when is Trump releasing his last 10 years of tax returns? The GOP needs to get these loons in line. They are letting the fringe make a mockery of their party. I just read that about The Donald's tax returns. The fringe aren't making a mocker of the party, the party is. As the news above says, I'd rather see The Donald's hairdresser records. There's something evil underneath that comb-over. Oh. What's wrong about this? (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/74f57f8729.png)[/url (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/) ]Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: Howey on April 27, 2011, 04:24:39 pm Gotta love the Whoopi!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKfkmJKWuVw&feature=player_embedded#at=63 Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: FooFa on April 27, 2011, 05:22:44 pm I'm not like the others with this, I'm satisfied. As for the citizenship claim to get a scholarship, I could give a rat's ass. Both Clinton and Bush dodged the draft. One old fucker did finally come forward and claim remembering seeing W at the national guard base, once. Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: betteroffhere on April 27, 2011, 05:40:26 pm hmm...
if he didn't lose his dual citizenship till he turned 23...then i suppose he would have qualified as a foriegn aid student anyways...the way its looking... he dad knocked his mom up in kenya...she scrambled to get to honalulu before the birth... cementing his citizenship...then hauled ass back to kenya.... i'd like to see the fathers paasport to veirfy that he traveled to honalulu also to sign the birth certificate.... it should match up close enough to the birth....right ? Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: Howey on April 27, 2011, 05:52:35 pm he dad knocked his mom up in kenya...she scrambled to get to honalulu before the birth... cementing his citizenship...then hauled ass back to kenya.... Got anything to back that up? Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: betteroffhere on April 27, 2011, 05:58:52 pm from the evidence out there...i'd say its common sense
no...it didn't happen over night....but... in some manner it did happen... not saying they weren't smart for doing that... just saying it sure looks like its possible...and likely Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: Howey on April 27, 2011, 06:01:36 pm from the evidence out there...i'd say its common sense no...it didn't happen over night....but... in some manner it did happen... not saying they weren't smart for doing that... just saying it sure looks like its possible...and likely But we don't post stuff here that's just heresay. We do that in FaFa's thread. :D The fact is Obama's father was a college student who met and married his mother. They were married for two years, divorced, and he left. Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: ekg on April 27, 2011, 08:09:15 pm Poor fucker can't win! (http://www.kspr.com/sns-ap-obama-birthcertificate-gop,0,6998760.story) (http://cur.cursors-4u.net/smilies/images1/smi20.gif) Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: ekg on April 27, 2011, 08:18:49 pm They won't quit. (http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/04/tea-party-nation-hold-your-horses----weve-got-some-other-questions-about-obamas-eligibility.php) Know what? I don't want them to quit. I want them to keep up the crazy. The Republican Party is a shell of it's former self. It's been deligitimized to a far greater extent that any Drudge, Breitbart, WND, CNS, KKK, lilMike, Sarah, Donald, Teabagger, or any other fruit out there can try to do to the President. It's race. I never was convinced it was all racism, but it is. of course it's race.. it always has been.. and they are getting more and more vocal about it and people are still going to bury their heads and ignore it, because to them it can't be.. it just can't be. but to these assbags he can't be the real elected president.. he just can't be... He isn't eligible because he wasn't born here, and if he was it was before Hawaii was a state, if it wasn't then his mother was too young to give him citizenship, if she wasn't then he lied about his school.. he couldn't have gotten good grades, because he couldn't have gotten into Harvard law, then on law review, then editor of law review.. he simply couldn't have done this.. unless he did it with affirmative action (like Pat Buchanan said).. but no, it just can't be because he had good grades.. he just can't be the elected President, he can't be.. because he's black! Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: betteroffhere on April 27, 2011, 09:16:10 pm But we don't post stuff here that's just heresay. We do that in FaFa's thread. :D The fact is Obama's father was a college student who met and married his mother. They were married for two years, divorced, and he left. i was representing the thought process of the un-informed or mislead... so i'll try and continue a bit more... parents married after he was in the womb...opportunistic foreign scholarship student ceases the chance to continue his education... agrees to mary and claim the child as his own... Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: Howey on April 27, 2011, 09:24:32 pm i was representing the thought process of the un-informed or mislead... so i'll try and continue a bit more... parents married after he was in the womb...opportunistic foreign scholarship student ceases the chance to continue his education... agrees to mary and claim the child as his own... DAmn, Holden! Call Fox! They've got an opening coming up that's right up your alley! ;D Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: uselesslegs on April 28, 2011, 01:00:56 pm It seems that Naturalization Services people warned Obama Senior bout play'in round wit dem girls while in Hawaii! Sooo promiscuous.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/richard-adams-blog/2011/apr/28/barack-obama-father-immigration-files (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/richard-adams-blog/2011/apr/28/barack-obama-father-immigration-files) "The documents show that official enquiries in 1961 were satisfied that the current president was indeed born in Hawaii, as Smathers reports: A memo dated August 31, 1961 from William Wood of Immigration and Naturalization Services indicates that Barack Obama, Sr, was attending the University of Hawaii on a student visa and that a son, Barack Obama, II, was born in Honolulu on August 4, 1961." Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: blindboytwitch on April 28, 2011, 02:37:33 pm Judson Phillips will not be satisfied until he sees the grainy fuck films from the backseat of a 1960 Chevy parked in the Pearl Harbor lot.
Jesus, man, lighten up. If old-fashioned right wingers are often closeted gays, the stuff Tea Partiers are hiding must be interspecies fuck-murder. Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: FooFa on April 28, 2011, 02:41:20 pm So basically according to the story Obama is now guilty of his dad getting a lot. Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: betteroffhere on April 28, 2011, 03:09:25 pm It seems that Naturalization Services people warned Obama Senior bout play'in round wit dem girls while in Hawaii! Sooo promiscuous. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/richard-adams-blog/2011/apr/28/barack-obama-father-immigration-files (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/richard-adams-blog/2011/apr/28/barack-obama-father-immigration-files) "The documents show that official enquiries in 1961 were satisfied that the current president was indeed born in Hawaii, as Smathers reports: A memo dated August 31, 1961 from William Wood of Immigration and Naturalization Services indicates that Barack Obama, Sr, was attending the University of Hawaii on a student visa and that a son, Barack Obama, II, was born in Honolulu on August 4, 1961." Sr was a smart guy for sure...smart enough to see the shit storm coming...thank goodness he married...it looks like the university system wanted him out.... Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: FooFa on April 28, 2011, 03:35:40 pm Many outlets are reporting that it's obviously forgery based on inconsistent fonts, layers(shouldn't be any layers on a simple scanned doc.) and the most primitive knowledge of photoshop. Some are further offering the conjecture that since it's so obvious, it's just more drama and diversion from the sinking dollar or Libya. Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: uselesslegs on April 28, 2011, 06:23:36 pm Now we need to see obamer's grades, because every indication of hard work and doing well scholastically just flies in the face of stereotypes. There's no way in hell he could have gotten on Harvard "anything" without a bump. I mean common stereotypical sense sees through that malarkey...right?
And, everyone's correct...it won't stop. It won't stop until the bone dry well has something, no matter how trivial, no matter how insignificant, dug up that the birthers can hold aloft as the undisputed truth of Obama's illegitimacy. I suspect it won't be anything that can call his presidency into question...but as long as it's a scrap of paper that he doodled on in 8th grade, where the squiggles almost look like a crescent moon or a half bitten oreo that bares the same moon shape...THAT'LL be their holy grail...their proof of...something. Hell, I'd hate to think what someone could dig up on me if they were demonically driven enough to wreck me. I'd imagine with enough air time and blog space...I'd be toast. Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: FooFa on April 28, 2011, 07:05:27 pm According to Harvard itself, part of his advancement was from affirmative action. However that aspect of it does seem ridiculous to make an issue out of. I know that I've been reverse discriminated against on more than one occasion but I still wouldn't fault someone for taking advantage of what the policy was at that time. Quote Barack Obama has not released transcripts for his grades from Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard Law. He has also not released his SAT and LSAT scores. No explanation has been offered for not releasing them. Per the Wall Street Journal September 11, 2008, "Obama's Lost Years," Obama graduated from Columbia University (to which he transferred after his first two years at Occidental College in California), with a degree in Political Science without honors, so had a GPA less than a 3.3. His roomate Sohale Siddiqi indicated Obama itially felt alienated, felt "very lost," and used drugs to get high, which could have led to low grades initially. The roomate indicates that he then turned serious and "stopped getting high." Obama transferred to Columbia because he was concerned with urban issues. Based on his overall undergraduate GPA of less than a 3.3, Mr. Obama's admission to Harvard Law School may reflect affirmative action statutes, low grades early, then higher grades later (purely speculation) and/or other factors. At Harvard Law School, Obama graduated Magna Cum Laude, which, according to the Havard Law School website, is awarded to the top 10% of Harvard Law School students. Also at Harvard Law School, Obama was accepted as one of 85-90 Editors of the Harvard Law Review, out of an estimated 1,000 students from the 2L and 3L classes that might have sought this honor. Obama was also elected President of the Law Review, which according to a Harvard Law spokesperson is not based at all on academics, but on other measures as would occure in any club. Note: There are comments associated with this question. See the discussion page to add to the conversation. Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_were_Barack_Obama's_grades_in_college#ixzz1KsDDALHz So one group never being satisfied and the other satisfied pretty much rehashed all over again and meanwhile the agenda marches on of the Bush doctrine with preemptive war, gitmo still operating and no end of the Patriot Act in sight or even being loosened. Overall a non story. Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: betteroffhere on April 28, 2011, 07:09:43 pm well chuck...if i was to guess how...
i'd say...according to this from the link posted above... Another immigration memo, from June 1964, records that Harvard officials were trying "to get rid of him" and "couldn't seem to figure out how many wives he had." his daddy was his in...thanks dad...look at me now...oh well...nevermind Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: Howey on April 28, 2011, 07:16:08 pm According to Harvard itself Please provide us a link. Not from Wiki. Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: betteroffhere on April 28, 2011, 07:39:55 pm Please provide us a link. Not from Wiki. the harvard law school website was referenced in that highlighed quote thingy... you need a link to there...? or a direct link to the mission statement or whatever its called...where it lays out the rules and expectations of... insert correct language here... Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: FooFa on April 28, 2011, 07:49:50 pm Please provide us a link. Not from Wiki. I heard a trusted source say it and couldn't find what they claimed but didn't spend a lot of time with it. I provided the quote that I did because it brings into question the claim that mentioned for balance. When you consider the amount of students... Quote 85-90 Editors of the Harvard Law Review, out of an estimated 1,000 students from the 2L and 3L classes that might have sought this honor. Obama was also elected President of the Law Review, which according to a Harvard Law spokesperson is not based at all on academics, but on other measures as would occure in any club. it's not a leap to think that the claim is true. The context of what I was saying is that even if it is true, it's not relevant to bring it up 100 years later. I'm not Right or Left or middle, I'm interested in the truth wherever that's found. My issues with him are purely his job performance and nothing else.Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: uselesslegs on April 28, 2011, 07:53:53 pm well chuck...if i was to guess how... i'd say...according to this from the link posted above... Another immigration memo, from June 1964, records that Harvard officials were trying "to get rid of him" and "couldn't seem to figure out how many wives he had." his daddy was his in...thanks dad...look at me now...oh well...nevermind Oh, I was talking bout jr., not sr....my bad. Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: Howey on April 28, 2011, 08:07:33 pm I heard a trusted source That is becoming very common around here lately. Please do not make claims without a verifiable source in this section. Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: betteroffhere on April 28, 2011, 08:22:08 pm Oh, I was talking bout jr., not sr....my bad. and i answered how jr was able to get into harvard...through his dad...having had gone there Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: betteroffhere on April 28, 2011, 08:33:28 pm damn it....i did it again...
very good... Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: FooFa on April 28, 2011, 08:44:22 pm That is becoming very common around here lately. Please do not make claims without a verifiable source in this section. Alex Jones and if you know of one instance where he's been wrong I'd love to know about it. He said that you could find it substantiated at infowars. I only like him on the youtubes because his site is annoying and mostly about moving product. Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: 44nutman on April 29, 2011, 12:47:18 pm Thought this was funny.
(http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/6983/obamasbirthcertificate.jpg) Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: ekg on April 29, 2011, 03:08:57 pm Now we need to see obamer's grades, because every indication of hard work and doing well scholastically just flies in the face of stereotypes. There's no way in hell he could have gotten on Harvard "anything" without a bump. I mean common stereotypical sense sees through that malarkey...right? THE best was watching Donald complain that he couldn't get in and some of his wealthy friends had sons and daughters who couldn't get in, but this guy? This guy gets in? I mean.. wow. Even David Frum is stunned.. Quote Now the more haunting question: How did this poisonous and not very subtly racist allegation get such a grip on our conservative movement and our Republican party? I know there will be Republican writers and conservative publicists who will now deny that birtherism ever did get a grip. Sorry, that’s just wrong. Not only did Trump surge ahead in Republican polls by flaming racial fires – not only did conservative media outlets from Fox to Drudge to the Breitbart sites indulge the birthers – but so also did every Republican candidate who said, “I take the president at his word.” Birthers did not doubt the president’s “word.” They were doubting the official records of the state of Hawaii. It’s like answering a 9/11 conspiracist by saying, “I take the 9/11 families at their word that they lost their loved ones.” Yet even now, the racialist aspect of the anti-Obama movement has not subsided. Trump has moved from the birth certificate to questioning the president’s academic qualifications for the Harvard Law School. Trump himself was a troubled student (at one point he attended a military school) who nonetheless gained admission to Wharton. His father’s wealth and business success cannot have hurt with that application. Yet he feels himself qualified to pronounce on who is and who is not smart enough to attend Harvard Law. Barack Obama graduated magna cum laude. (And to anticipate a new line of attack – yes, Harvard Law School exams were blind-graded.) He was elected editor of the law review. And his classmates, left and right, universally admired his abilities. I wish it were otherwise, but it does seem that these racialized attacks on Obama have exacted a toll on him. But they also have exacted a toll on the opposition to Obama. The too-faint repudiation of birtherism by regular Republicans has shaped not only the Obama brand, but also the Republican brand. It was not only white people who heard the implied message about who counts and who does not count as a “real American.” http://www.frumforum.com/the-birther-disgrace Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: Howey on April 29, 2011, 03:17:48 pm http://mediamatters.org/research/201104280021
Media Matters takes on some of the If y'all want to check, one of the comments in ekg's first post says that the doctor who delivered Obama died 12 years later so his signature can't be verified. Therefore, Obama wasn't born a US citizen. Title: Re: what will they do now? Post by: FooFa on May 01, 2011, 12:58:21 pm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv_44QQMcGo |