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Title: What? Post by: clc on May 09, 2011, 10:03:39 am What exactly is going on?
You're personally calling Mike out on the news bar? Why? What's the benefit of this, other than a cute and smarmy public shaming? Obviously, Howie, you don't like Mike and I suspect the feelings may be mutual. Okay, whatever. But be careful you don't find yourself stepping into Despot Territory. Title: Re: What? Post by: Howey on May 09, 2011, 12:40:27 pm What exactly is going on? You're personally calling Mike out on the news bar? Why? What's the benefit of this, other than a cute and smarmy public shaming? Obviously, Howie, you don't like Mike and I suspect the feelings may be mutual. Okay, whatever. But be careful you don't find yourself stepping into Despot Territory. May I suggest you go back and read all of Mike's posts before you attempt a "public shaming" of me? Afterwards, come back here and read this: Precisely why I value Mike's presence on this forum and why I want Shannon to participate more. Although I'm confident Shannon could do it in a far more intelligent and adult manner. Amen... As I've stated innumerable times, my intent with this forum is that it not end up like the muche...with the owner insulting and berating members he doesn't agree with and with participants going all Kazz-bot over nothing while also berating and insulting their fellow posters. This forum, like the muche, has unfortunately developed into not a discussion of the issues, but a discussion of the minutae. On one hand, we have lilMike bombarding discussions with needless picking away at moot points and continued disrespect for his fellow posters. On another hand we have FaFa bombarding discussions with needless conspiracy insanity; both with the intention of directing the conversation away from the civil and intelligent and into the realm of idiocy. My experience those years on the muche developed into a constant defense of my words and thoughts. To the point the issue became inconsequential. Faced with attacks, including the personal, I fought harder and made a fool of myself in the process; thus realizing the goal of those who berated me. I will not allow this to happen here. When I set up this forum, I asked that we police ourselves. That has failed. Effective today, any post of lilMike's that delves into the personal attack and any post from FaFa that introduces a silly conspiracy-related comment into a topic will be moved to a special section of the board; the Children's Playground. Don't like it? Fine. Leave. You can go here (http://politika.smfforfree.com/index.php/board,1.0.html). At least I didn't ban anyone and still have my integrity. Title: Re: What? Post by: clc on May 09, 2011, 12:53:21 pm I read his posts, and I also read that one. Thanks for the presumption.
What I saw from his posts and your posts are two smart-ass, vaguely-insulting-but-not-really-vaguely, combative people sniping at each other. I don't see him being any worse than you have been. All three of you escalated it. Except he is the one pulled out on the news bar. Mike's not the one going around writing & editing biased mod posts--that's what I'm talking about. It's juvenile. Why the jackass comparison between Shannon Burke and Mike, who while perhaps being stubborn and one sided (like the rest of us, really), is certainly intelligent? The best moderators do what needs to be done, announces what's been done, and then drops it. They also keep their personal opinion out of moderation decision. For an example of an excellent way to use moderation, check out boingboing.net. All I'm saying is, this board took a definite veer back into "Late 2010's Muche Land" a little while back, and you might want to think about reversing it. Neither of you guys rose above the mud in this. Title: Re: What? Post by: FooFa on May 09, 2011, 03:02:42 pm Forums in general don't seem to garner much participation. Two of the 5 or 6 who do participate are now part of yet another declaration and threat. Precisely what I don't do, make things personal. Title: Re: What? Post by: ekg on May 09, 2011, 09:00:31 pm I think we should all take a breath and "reboot".
Title: Re: What? Post by: FooFa on May 09, 2011, 09:41:26 pm What is surprising to me often and upsetting is this:I will think that Howey and I are past something, where I want to be...we occasionally share a laugh in a pm kind of thing. Then more than once I run across myself being mentioned or associated with an apparent plague. This isn't about a free forum living or dying to me or my love;the vids. It's about the core people who I care about which is the only reason that I keep trying. As Cass mentioned, a monitor administrator can't be intimately/emotionally involved in every thought happening on something that it takes about 15 seconds to set up. Title: Re: What? Post by: ekg on May 09, 2011, 10:46:42 pm What is surprising to me often and upsetting is this:I will think that Howey and I are past something, where I want to be...we occasionally share a laugh in a pm kind of thing. Then more than once I run across myself being mentioned or associated with an apparent plague. This isn't about a free forum living or dying to me or my love;the vids. It's about the core people who I care about which is the only reason that I keep trying. As Cass mentioned, a monitor administrator can't be intimately/emotionally involved in every thought happening on something that it takes about 15 seconds to set up. he asks one thing of you.. to keep the conspiracy to your section. you can't see what is and isn't conspiracy tho and that's where the problem is.. you also like to throw wrenches into topics and derail them.. ;) not that topics have to stay on course, but for example, the other day in the scott thread I mentioned 'police state'.. and you replied with an FDA thing that really had nothing to do with private prisons.. Ok, no big deal since I went there with you and it turned into a good conversation-- I mean, I know Puff mentioned it wasn't very adult, LOL, but I had fun.. I tried to convey that with the smileys, but maybe that 'fun' didn't come thru.. ... anyway, if you did that once or twice then it's no big deal, but you do it all the time.. and that becomes maddening.. Just start a new topic that's all.. but, imagine someone coming to your video thread posting about a book they had read or a new restaurant they had tried.. and then doing that all the time. It would become maddening to you to the point where you were sensitive to anything that person posted anywhere on the board.. Does that help explain it a little? :) and the stuff about Howie and I are either lying, doing something suspicious or untrustworthy and whatnot.. really has to end right now... you want to call me a bitch, that's fine I am and can be.... but to call me suspicious and unbelievable is crossing a line that I'm not going to tolerate. Like it or not, I am a mod here.. and I don't, nor have I, lied to anyone... I haven't any reason to. Some of you people know more about my personal life and marriage than even my family knows.. I have nothing to hide and won't be accused otherwise..I don't lie or post in a fashion to deceive anyone on any topic... again, I have no need to... and if you take that as your cue to find a way to 'get at me' because you want to pick at me, you do it at your own peril IMO.. if you have an issue where you think I, or Howie or anyone else on this forum has been unfair or has lied or been untruthful or hurt you in some way.. PM one of us and we'll figure it out.. There is way to figure out, fix it, and move on.. but only if someone is willing to share instead of letting it build up. For the most part all Howie or me want is a free-flow of ideas and conversations, with as little limits as possible, but some limits in order to keep a good flow of things coming..(and Howie from being sued HA!) as i said before.. in a much smaller way.. I think we should all take a breath and "reboot". ;) Title: Re: What? Post by: FooFa on May 10, 2011, 01:03:03 pm Quote Does that help explain it a little? :) I don't understand that. Have I said something to that effect...I wouldn't be asking if I didn't want to 'survive'. I hope to never half to have these sorts of exchanges again so let's get it all out, peacefully :D.and the stuff about Howie and I are either lying, doing something suspicious or untrustworthy and whatnot.. really has to end right now... you want to call me a bitch, that's fine I am and can be.... but to call me suspicious and unbelievable is crossing a line that I'm not going to tolerate. Like it or not, I am a mod here.. and I don't, nor have I, lied to anyone... I haven't any reason to. Some of you people know more about my personal life and marriage than even my family knows.. I have nothing to hide and won't be accused otherwise..I don't lie or post in a fashion to deceive anyone on any topic... again, I have no need to... and if you take that as your cue to find a way to 'get at me' because you want to pick at me, you do it at your own peril IMO.. if you have an issue where you think I, or Howie or anyone else on this forum has been unfair or has lied or been untruthful or hurt you in some way.. PM one of us and we'll figure it out.. There is way to figure out, fix it, and move on.. but only if someone is willing to share instead of letting it build up. For the most part all Howie or me want is a free-flow of ideas and conversations, with as little limits as possible, but some limits in order to keep a good flow of things coming..(and Howie from being sued HA!) as i said before.. in a much smaller way.. I think we should all take a breath and "reboot". ;) Title: Re: What? Post by: betteroffhere on May 10, 2011, 06:58:04 pm I don't understand :D. you could've left it at that... seriously....the fact that you can understand anything is fucking mind boggling... but i love you for it and who are... Title: Re: What? Post by: Howey on May 10, 2011, 07:04:47 pm you could've left it at that... seriously....the fact that you can understand anything is fucking mind boggling... but i love you for it and who are... Don't we all! ;D Title: Re: What? Post by: FooFa on May 10, 2011, 10:34:54 pm Look. I don't know who you think you're talking to but I can produce a plaque declaring me the air hockey champion of 1993 or thereabouts. And you meet the same people on the way back down. Title: Re: What? Post by: Howey on May 10, 2011, 10:44:37 pm Look. I don't know who you think you're talking to but I can produce a plaque declaring me the air hockey champion of 1993 or thereabouts. And you meet the same people on the way back down. Oh great! Another conspiracy theory! ::) Title: Re: What? Post by: betteroffhere on May 10, 2011, 11:29:09 pm Look. I don't know who you think you're talking to but I can produce a plaque declaring me the air hockey champion of 1993 or thereabouts. And you meet the same people on the way back down. see...that was an unknown before...now i'll have to reconsider my position... part two is excellent sage advice Title: Re: What? Post by: betteroffhere on May 15, 2011, 09:55:45 pm what happened to my post in the video forum ?
why was it deleted ? just curious... should i not attempt posting in that forum at all... is that the advice...is that the message i am to be receiving ? hmm Title: Re: What? Post by: Howey on May 15, 2011, 09:59:31 pm what happened to my post in the video forum ? why was it deleted ? just curious... should i not attempt posting in that forum at all... is that the advice...is that the message i am to be receiving ? hmm Repost it. It better not be deleted again. Title: Re: What? Post by: betteroffhere on May 15, 2011, 10:28:04 pm Repost it. It better not be deleted again. eh... it could be my fault... i'll have to go back and find where fafa gave me the explict rules in a post... just thought it would have been followed up with an explanation of some sort Title: Re: What? Post by: Howey on May 15, 2011, 10:37:47 pm eh... it could be my fault... i'll have to go back and find where fafa gave me the explict rules in a post... just thought it would have been followed up with an explanation of some sort We, me and ekg, made it clear that no posts are to be deleted from this forum. Title: Re: What? Post by: betteroffhere on May 15, 2011, 10:52:16 pm We, me and ekg, made it clear that no posts are to be deleted from this forum. it was done in his video forum...not this forum just addressing it in this forum where it probably won't be deleted... not looking to make a big deal about it...just try'n to find out where i stand in issue with fafa and whether or not, or how if can be resolved... do i need to post a video to youtube or something to apease the fafa....? Title: Re: What? Post by: ekg on May 16, 2011, 07:30:00 am it was done in his video forum...not this forum just addressing it in this forum where it probably won't be deleted... not looking to make a big deal about it...just try'n to find out where i stand in issue with fafa and whether or not, or how if can be resolved... do i need to post a video to youtube or something to apease the fafa....? the irony of fafa deleting one of your posts on his forum would be... overwhelming. Title: Re: What? Post by: Howey on May 16, 2011, 10:28:59 am the irony of fafa deleting one of your posts on his forum would be... overwhelming. I checked the mod log and FaFa deleted at least four posts yesterday in a five minute period. Once I get home I'll see to it that doesn't happen again. Title: Re: What? Post by: FooFa on May 16, 2011, 12:07:49 pm Drama was started in a thread that is for people to look at to find things. There is a clearly identified thread for talking etc... Title: Re: What? Post by: Howey on May 16, 2011, 12:30:48 pm Drama was started in a thread that is for people to look at to find things. There is a clearly identified thread for talking etc... Did you or did you not delete posts? Title: Re: What? Post by: Howey on May 16, 2011, 12:53:40 pm Drama was started in a thread that is for people to look at to find things. And you started the drama. There is a clearly identified thread for talking etc... I'm going to modify ekg's post on this one... the irony of fafa dictating where off topic posts should go on his forum would be... overwhelming. Title: Re: What? Post by: FooFa on May 16, 2011, 01:57:56 pm The section that you gave me is not like any other section. It's not really ironic to want to keep a table of contents as is. The issue had already been covered and if it needed to be brought up again it could have taken place privately. You never said to not delete posts, you said-threads. Just take my internet name away and delete the whole thing or let me run my section, I'm ok either way. Title: Re: What? Post by: Howey on May 16, 2011, 03:32:27 pm You never said to not delete posts, you said-threads. Both of you: Do not delete anything from this forum without express permission from either me or ekg. Corrective action has been taken. Please learn from this accordingly. You'll be able to post again in three days. Title: Re: What? Post by: betteroffhere on May 16, 2011, 04:59:18 pm i had no idea when i invited him here he would be so possessive...really i didn't
nor am i sure what his issue happens to be in regards to me... my favorite parts of this bored/forum...is the podcast section and when i could participate,the video section. i saw plenty of potential for the video thread...i like that medium for many reasons...it is one of the reasons i drifted away from the muche for the most part...now...i find myself slowly being drawn back towards that direction... and i find when i do swing by there it is for the general section...the rest is pretty much a waste land... oh how i miss the video section here...thanks for stiffeling my creativity fafa...its been a pleasure Title: Re: What? Post by: ekg on May 16, 2011, 05:25:36 pm I checked the mod log and FaFa deleted at least four posts yesterday in a five minute period. Once I get home I'll see to it that doesn't happen again. so it was this forum them? Title: Re: What? Post by: ekg on May 16, 2011, 05:28:15 pm Drama was started in a thread that is for people to look at to find things. There is a clearly identified thread for talking etc... again, the irony is overwhelming.. seriously, you've been asked repeatedly to stay on topic in other peoples threads and to keep the conspiracy out of other peoples threads.. to which you reply "I don't understand...".. clearly you do understand, since you know exactly how you want to keep the threads you start.. Title: Re: What? Post by: Howey on May 16, 2011, 06:40:56 pm so it was this forum them? Yes. FaFa considered his threads his "forum". Title: Re: What? Post by: Howey on May 16, 2011, 06:43:32 pm i had no idea when i invited him here he would be so possessive...really i didn't nor am i sure what his issue happens to be in regards to me... my favorite parts of this bored/forum...is the podcast section and when i could participate,the video section. i saw plenty of potential for the video thread...i like that medium for many reasons...it is one of the reasons i drifted away from the muche for the most part...now...i find myself slowly being drawn back towards that direction... and i find when i do swing by there it is for the general section...the rest is pretty much a waste land... oh how i miss the video section here...thanks for stiffeling my creativity fafa...its been a pleasure You are more than welcome to post anything you want anywhere on here, without repercussion. And, remember you may also post random You Tube videos here: http://popculturedoneright.smfforfree.com/index.php/topic,353.0.html Title: Re: What? Post by: ekg on May 16, 2011, 09:08:43 pm Yes. FaFa considered his threads his "forum". huh... I don't know how to reply to that. Title: Re: What? Post by: betteroffhere on May 16, 2011, 09:42:39 pm you...and a loss for words...
i should've quoted that... i like the open nature in which we discuss issues... hate the private message things when it pertains to bored issues... open forum ing under the sunshine rule is the best policy, a public dispensing of medicene leaves historical evidence for all to learn from... plus its fun if it isn't directed towards youself...its when discussions take place behind the scene's that lead to distrust or a shitload of other issues... i never say anything in private that i won't say publicly in a post or to your face... so feel free to dress me down or serve me my medicene publicly... i'll take the fodder just about any way i can get it... we just need to find fafa's learning curve... i'd say lil mike's learning curve has been documented pretty well... the WHAT? thread...i hope puffy/clc doesn't feel like i hi jacked the thread... it just seemed like the right thread...right title did i leave anyone out...um...Hi JB and why didn't they name the podcast chico and the klan... it is st fucking cloud after all....the experience...must apply in more ways than one i suppose Title: Re: What? Post by: Howey on May 16, 2011, 09:53:56 pm You make me smile, boh. ;D And jb says hi. |