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Title: You Call This Responsible Gun Ownership?
Post by: Howey on July 12, 2011, 08:11:09 am
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/11/lori-klein-arizona-gun-control-reporter-giffords_n_894973.html

Proving my point that there's no such thing as responsible gun owners...



Title: Re: You Call This Responsible Gun Ownership?
Post by: betteroffhere on July 12, 2011, 03:46:37 pm
interesting proof there...um...

i bet you wish you were a juror on the casey anthony trial...

but anyways...i noticed the story neglected to comment on if the weapon was loaded...

but then again...were it known the weapon wasn't loaded it wouldn't make for much of a story would it...

a fine example of the media keeping their hand on the pulse to make sure our or your blood pressure has risen...well done

both of you...


Title: Re: You Call This Responsible Gun Ownership?
Post by: Howey on July 12, 2011, 04:07:34 pm
interesting proof there...um...

i bet you wish you were a juror on the casey anthony trial...

but anyways...i noticed the story neglected to comment on if the weapon was loaded...

but then again...were it known the weapon wasn't loaded it wouldn't make for much of a story would it...

a fine example of the media keeping their hand on the pulse to make sure our or your blood pressure has risen...well done

both of you...

Nice try there...did you see the headline?

"points loaded gun"


Title: Re: You Call This Responsible Gun Ownership?
Post by: betteroffhere on July 12, 2011, 04:29:31 pm
Nice try there...did you see the headline?

"points loaded gun"

yes...i seen the headline...

but no where in the story did she admit it was loaded...

i'm sure the story writer will claim to the best of their knowledge it was loaded...

but do you know that to be true...or you just going by what is claimed ?

by someone you don't know at all...


Title: Re: You Call This Responsible Gun Ownership?
Post by: Howey on July 12, 2011, 04:47:38 pm
yes...i seen the headline...

but no where in the story did she admit it was loaded...

i'm sure the story writer will claim to the best of their knowledge it was loaded...

but do you know that to be true...or you just going by what is claimed ?

by someone you don't know at all...

Did you see where she said she didn't have her finger on the trigger? Did she say the gun wasn't loaded?

More important...is it responsible gun ownership to point a gun, loaded or not, at another person?


Title: Re: You Call This Responsible Gun Ownership?
Post by: betteroffhere on July 12, 2011, 06:01:47 pm
Did you see where she said she didn't have her finger on the trigger? Did she say the gun wasn't loaded?

More important...is it responsible gun ownership to point a gun, loaded or not, at another person?

lets see...you don't know the senerio surrounding the incident...

no one was shot and or killed...

seems like keeping her finger off the trigger shows she is responsible to me...loaded or not

how do you know the guy didn't ask her to show him what she would do if in a threatening sitituation...

how do you know he didn't ask her how she knew she was gonna hit her target...so she showed him how the laser light worked...

there's millions of guns out there...a large majority of which aren't killing or injurying people...

but this....this has your tit in a ringer...bah...arm everyone...kill them all...then let their god sort it out


Title: Re: You Call This Responsible Gun Ownership?
Post by: ekg on July 12, 2011, 09:14:41 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/11/lori-klein-arizona-gun-control-reporter-giffords_n_894973.html

Proving my point that there's no such thing as responsible gun owners...



except I'm sitting here as one... My parents are sitting as some.. and my grandparents are sitting there as some as well.. :)

I know you don't like guns, and that's ok.. but yes, there are responsible owners out there.. we're not all crazy,lazy and/or stupid.. :P


Title: Re: You Call This Responsible Gun Ownership?
Post by: Howey on July 12, 2011, 09:51:50 pm
except I'm sitting here as one... My parents are sitting as some.. and my grandparents are sitting there as some as well.. :)

I know you don't like guns, and that's ok.. but yes, there are responsible owners out there.. we're not all crazy,lazy and/or stupid.. :P

That doesn't answer my question:

Is this person a responsible gun owner?





Title: Re: You Call This Responsible Gun Ownership?
Post by: betteroffhere on July 12, 2011, 10:01:29 pm
That doesn't answer my question:

Is this person a responsible gun owner?

should someone make that judgement off an article ?






Title: Re: You Call This Responsible Gun Ownership?
Post by: Howey on July 13, 2011, 08:41:48 am
Yes. I did, the Phoenix Rod and Gun Club did, too. They are, of course, gun advocates.

I'm truly shocked that anyone who thinks the act of pointing a gun at anyone else is responsible. To me, it reeks of psychotic at the worst, or dangerous and childish at the least.

One of the main causes of childhood deaths is the scenario here. I wonder how many kids will die as a result of "copycat" actions after hearing a "responsible" adult  pointed a gun at another?

"Look what I found hidden in my responsible gun owner daddy's closet, Bobby!"

BAM!


Title: Re: You Call This Responsible Gun Ownership?
Post by: betteroffhere on July 13, 2011, 04:02:13 pm
Yes. I did, the Phoenix Rod and Gun Club did, too. They are, of course, gun advocates.

I'm truly shocked that anyone who thinks the act of pointing a gun at anyone else is responsible. To me, it reeks of psychotic at the worst, or dangerous and childish at the least.

One of the main causes of childhood deaths is the scenario here. I wonder how many kids will die as a result of "copycat" actions after hearing a "responsible" adult  pointed a gun at another?

"Look what I found hidden in my responsible gun owner daddy's closet, Bobby!"

BAM!

if only it worked like that in the real world...

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001915.htm


Title: Re: You Call This Responsible Gun Ownership?
Post by: Howey on July 13, 2011, 04:36:03 pm
if only it worked like that in the real world...

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001915.htm

So death by a responsible gun owner's weapon doesn't count as an accident or homicide?


Title: Re: You Call This Responsible Gun Ownership?
Post by: Howey on July 13, 2011, 04:42:03 pm
Firearms the fifth leading cause of pediatric death [pdf]

http://161.203.16.4/d20t9/143619.pdf


Title: Re: You Call This Responsible Gun Ownership?
Post by: betteroffhere on July 13, 2011, 04:45:16 pm
So death by a responsible gun owner's weapon doesn't count as an accident or homicide?

you said main causes...

i beg to differ...

the fifth leading cause....ha...

fifth and main is where will meet...

and we'll watch first place ride by...waving its hand...

in...oh the horror...a moving vehicle...dear god...what the odds of that turning ugly

lets ban vehicles...as soon as possible...for the kids protection


Title: Re: You Call This Responsible Gun Ownership?
Post by: Howey on July 13, 2011, 05:10:20 pm
you said main causes...

i beg to differ...

the fifth leading cause....ha.

Hah! You are finally succeeding in taking over for lilyouknowwho...

I now christian ye lilBoh!

Quote from a very smart man: One dead child at the hands of a responsible gun owner's gun is one too many."


Title: Re: You Call This Responsible Gun Ownership?
Post by: betteroffhere on July 13, 2011, 05:19:27 pm
Hah! You are finally succeeding in taking over for lilyouknowwho...

I now christian ye lilBoh!

Quote from a very smart man: One dead child at the hands of a responsible car owner's vehicle is one too many."



death is natural...

the means inwhich it occurs may not be...

when in rome...do as the...scratch that

when in rome...don't looked shocked when you see what romans really do...

just act like its no big deal and no one will take notice of you...

gun this gun that....everything has a good and bad side...

and as long as the government,local state and federal have guns...

i think the people should also have guns...keeps the playing field level...

you are aware of ww2 right ?


Title: Re: You Call This Responsible Gun Ownership?
Post by: ekg on July 14, 2011, 12:21:09 pm
That doesn't answer my question:

Is this person a responsible gun owner?





I didn't think I had to because no, she isn't and that's quite obvious..

my reply was only to your statement that there was no such thing. Just because this idiot isn't, doesn't prove  your point that there aren't any responsible owner out there.


Title: Re: You Call This Responsible Gun Ownership?
Post by: ekg on July 14, 2011, 12:45:59 pm
you said main causes...

i beg to differ...

the fifth leading cause....ha...



liBoH is a good name.. ;D

but you messed up... like he does.. What Howie said was "One of the main causes of childhood deaths is the scenario here"  being ranked 5th could easily be 'One of the.."  no?


Title: Re: You Call This Responsible Gun Ownership?
Post by: Howey on July 14, 2011, 12:55:04 pm
liBoH is a good name.. ;D

but you messed up... like he does..


Yup, and another yup.


Title: Re: You Call This Responsible Gun Ownership?
Post by: Howey on July 14, 2011, 12:58:59 pm
I didn't think I had to because no, she isn't and that's quite obvious..

my reply was only to your statement that there was no such thing. Just because this idiot isn't, doesn't prove  your point that there aren't any responsible owner out there.

Yet, she professes to be...

My point is that at any given moment a responsible gun owner can become an irresponsible gun owner.

Therefore, there's no such thing as a responsible gun owner.


Title: Re: You Call This Responsible Gun Ownership?
Post by: ekg on July 14, 2011, 01:25:43 pm
Yet, she professes to be...

My point is that at any given moment a responsible gun owner can become an irresponsible gun owner.

Therefore, there's no such thing as a responsible gun owner.

that's like a christian fundamentalist saying 'at any moment, a homosexual could molest a young boy, so that proves all gay are sexual predators"..


today, you might be a responsible and safe driver, but tonight you wreck your car and lose that status.. that doesn't mean there aren't any safe and responsible drivers out there...

Just saying, that's a mighty wide brush you're painting with.. ;)


Title: Re: You Call This Responsible Gun Ownership?
Post by: Howey on July 14, 2011, 01:52:04 pm
that's like a christian fundamentalist saying 'at any moment, a homosexual could molest a young boy, so that proves all gay are sexual predators"..


today, you might be a responsible and safe driver, but tonight you wreck your car and lose that status.. that doesn't mean there aren't any safe and responsible drivers out there...

Just saying, that's a mighty wide brush you're painting with.. ;)

Oops. I was using the tablet and forgot this
 ;D