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Title: Not Guilty!
Post by: Howey on July 13, 2011, 06:36:04 pm
http://mediamatters.org/mobile/blog/201107130014

I remember this guy...hero to the crazed teabagger and libertarian Breitbart followers out there.

The two guys accused of attacking the 'plant' have been found not guilty.

Hopefully, this will put an end to the O'Keefe's out there.


Title: Re: Not Guilty!
Post by: FooFa on July 14, 2011, 04:06:35 am


What does "brightbart followers" mean to you. Because for instance, I find some things with Huffington Post to be dead on even though aol, part of that conglomerate is a gov lackey. However those items are often nothing more than a reprint from the AP or something like that. For another example, everyone knows that "Christian Science" is out there but the reporting and investigative pieces from Christian Science Monitor are usually outstanding journalism. I tend to make up my mind on the smell test of a news story by item rather than an entire site.


Title: Re: Not Guilty!
Post by: Howey on July 14, 2011, 08:04:43 am

What does "brightbart followers" mean to you. Because for instance, I find some things with Huffington Post to be dead on even though aol, part of that conglomerate is a gov lackey. However those items are often nothing more than a reprint from the AP or something like that. For another example, everyone knows that "Christian Science" is out there but the reporting and investigative pieces from Christian Science Monitor are usually outstanding journalism. I tend to make up my mind on the smell test of a news story by item rather than an entire site.

The term "breitbart followers", and the words surrounding it, are mine and are not attributed to the Huffington Post.

In light of recent unfounded allegations of plagiarism, I try not to c/p articles.


Title: Re: Not Guilty!
Post by: FooFa on July 14, 2011, 11:30:34 am

HP was a random example illustrating that I don't find fault with an entire site as a general rule. Even WND is accurate some of the time. I was trying to assssssssssssssscertain how 'follower' is relevant or applicable to an entire site.


Title: Re: Not Guilty!
Post by: Howey on July 14, 2011, 11:35:57 am
In that case I have no idea what you're talking about..

Again.


Title: Re: Not Guilty!
Post by: ekg on July 14, 2011, 12:00:22 pm
HP was a random example illustrating that I don't find fault with an entire site as a general rule. Even WND is accurate some of the time. I was trying to assssssssssssssscertain how 'follower' is relevant or applicable to an entire site.

"Breibart followers" is just what it says it is, Breibart... followers. People who follow Breitbart, people who read,pass along, believe, and champion Breitbart..

I don't see why this was a question? ???


Title: Re: Not Guilty!
Post by: FooFa on July 16, 2011, 12:02:59 pm


I wasn't going to tackle this but wth. What we've got here...It goes back to me being in my own world in a sense. I don't think like anyone I've ever known. When Howey phrased 'his followers' it didn't make sense to me because I don't follow anything. It's hard for me to imagine that people would proclaim themselves Glenn Beck fans for instance. Didn't like him on the left, didn't like him on the right and now that he's probably going to be imitating Alex Jones, I still won't like him.

In other words I try to have news stories pass the smell test on their own merit, meaning that I don't think in terms of an entire site being wrong or right.


Title: Re: Not Guilty!
Post by: ekg on July 16, 2011, 01:38:22 pm

I wasn't going to tackle this but wth. What we've got here...It goes back to me being in my own world in a sense. I don't think like anyone I've ever known. When Howey phrased 'his followers' it didn't make sense to me because I don't follow anything. It's hard for me to imagine that people would proclaim themselves Glenn Beck fans for instance. Didn't like him on the left, didn't like him on the right and now that he's probably going to be imitating Alex Jones, I still won't like him.

In other words I try to have news stories pass the smell test on their own merit, meaning that I don't think in terms of an entire site being wrong or right.

that's fine... but in some cases, yes, the entire site is FOS....in Breitbart case, He makes so many things up and he uses people who alter and edit to make so many things up that how can  you believe anything on his site?

and there are people..with so much hate in them, that when they read anything that justifies that hate, whether it's real or not..they 'follow' it..because it gives  them comfort to have any reason out there, no matter how outrageous and false, to feel justified and correct in their anger and hatred..



Title: Re: Not Guilty!
Post by: betteroffhere on July 16, 2011, 04:23:20 pm
that's fine... but in some cases, yes, the entire site is FOS....in Breitbart case, He makes so many things up and he uses people who alter and edit to make so many things up that how can  you believe anything on his site?

and there are people..with so much hate in them, that when they read anything that justifies that hate, whether it's real or not..they 'follow' it..because it gives  them comfort to have any reason out there, no matter how outrageous and false, to feel justified and correct in their anger and hatred..



don't the majority of them do that...?...alter...edit...dig in the wayback file...

isn't it just about finding a demo and exploiting it for everything possible ?


Title: Re: Not Guilty!
Post by: Howey on July 16, 2011, 06:10:43 pm
don't the majority of them do that...?...alter...edit...dig in the wayback file...

isn't it just about finding a demo and exploiting it for everything possible ?

No...Breitbart actually cuts, splices sentences to have a different meaning.


Title: Re: Not Guilty!
Post by: FooFa on July 16, 2011, 10:46:03 pm
For chits and giggles I just checked the site and the only thing I see is links to other real news sites such as AP.
 http://adclick.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=L&ai=BoBXB_0siTrqxJY_ZsAfhk4CeC8745PwBAAAAEAEgrNCrAzgAWKbs6tYYYMneuYzYpOARsgERd3d3LmJyZWl0YmFydC5jb226AQlnZnBfaW1hZ2XIAQnaAS1odHRwOi8vd3d3LmJyZWl0YmFydC5jb20vaW5kZXgucGhwP2NhdGVnb3J5PTPgAQOYAognwAIC4AIA6gIKbmV3c19ib3hfMfgC8NEekAOsApgDrAKoAwHgBAE&num=0&sig=AOD64_1DupqHXFR-QzLccvKXJIRLttYAbw&client=ca-pub-9229289037503472&adurl=http://defendingthedream.org
However this sort of ad kind of clues me into what you're suggesting.


Title: Re: Not Guilty!
Post by: ekg on July 18, 2011, 08:39:38 am
don't the majority of them do that...?...alter...edit...dig in the wayback file...

isn't it just about finding a demo and exploiting it for everything possible ?

no.. the majority of them don't alter..