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Title: Rupert's Big Scandal
Post by: Howey on July 15, 2011, 05:29:09 pm
According to his subsidiary, FOX News, it's "no big deal" and we should all move on..

Tell thay to the 9/11 victim whose phone you hacked, asswipe.

http://thinkprogress.org/media/2011/07/15/270344/fox-news-defends-news-corp/


Title: Re: Rupert's Big Scandal
Post by: ekg on July 15, 2011, 09:18:08 pm
I am waiting 'curiously' to see how all this plays out. As far as I can tell, it won't matter in the grand scheme of things either way.. since Fox doesn't have many scruples left anyway but are still one of the most trusted news sources.. so why would this plague them here?


Title: Re: Rupert's Big Scandal
Post by: uselesslegs on July 16, 2011, 05:16:00 pm
The spin has started already.  I forget which show on Fox I saw the other day, but the crux of the conversation wound up citing how hacking...in general...was so rampant.  Citigroup, Sony, ect. ect., had all been victims and this recent hacking could more or less be listed among them.  Well, it wasn't said "like" that, but it was implied...greatly.

So what do we come away with?  That Newscorp., is much the same as Citigroup and Sony, in that they were hacked...oops...maybe you should include that individuals IN Newscorp., actually "did" the hacking...for yearrrsss, to thousannndsss of people...instead of implying hacking, in a general, associated capacity.  That sorta changes the entire dynamic.



Title: Re: Rupert's Big Scandal
Post by: Howey on July 16, 2011, 06:06:41 pm
The spin has started already.  I forget which show on Fox I saw the other day, but the crux of the conversation wound up citing how hacking...in general...was so rampant.  Citigroup, Sony, ect. ect., had all been victims and this recent hacking could more or less be listed among them.  Well, it wasn't said "like" that, but it was implied...greatly.

So what do we come away with?  That Newscorp., is much the same as Citigroup and Sony, in that they were hacked...oops...maybe you should include that individuals IN Newscorp., actually "did" the hacking...for yearrrsss, to thousannndsss of people...instead of implying hacking, in a general, associated capacity.  That sorta changes the entire dynamic.



That's my link above. I didn't want to quote it and be accused of plagairism. ::)


Title: Re: Rupert's Big Scandal
Post by: ekg on July 21, 2011, 09:57:50 pm
so isn't this interesting..

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/07/20/996814/-When-MurdochGate-Met-ClimateGate
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The so-called "Climate-Gate" controversy - in which e-mails about Global Warming were stolen from researchers at Britain's University of East Anglia in November, 2009 - now turns out to bear the stamp of Neil Wallis, one of the key figures in Murdoch's hacking of the phones, voicemails, and other electronic communications of thousands of people.

Wallis is unique in this scandal. He had been the Executive Editor of Murdoch's "News Of The World" when hacking was at its peak. Yet in 2009 he wound up being hired by the police as a public relations consultant, while the police investigated the hacking scandal - and he wound up spying for Murdoch's people on what Scotland Yard was investigating.

More over, while Wallis was keeping Murdoch's organization apprized of what and whom the police were investigating, the police were trying to convince other news organizations not to cover the story - a suppression of evidence that benefited both the police and Rupert Murdoch

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On November 20th, 2009, somebody broke into a computer server at the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia, and stole thousands of emails and computer files. The documents were, of course, leaked to Climate Change Deniers, and although exhaustive analysis later proved that the emails merely revealed scientists' anxiety that Climate Data and Research were being properly handled and studied, The Deniers have treated those emails as if they were a kind of Holy Grail of fraud. 

They claim the emails not only disproved all of Climate Change, but also that they proved that scientists had doctored data in order to exaggerate the urgency of an international conference on climate change coming up the next month in Copenhagen in Denmark.

As the corporations and lobbyists who sought to feed the myth that there is no man-made Climate Change, disseminated, exploited and deliberately misinterpreted the stolen e-mails - and used Fox News and other Murdoch enterprises as their principle venues - the victims, the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia, decided they'd better hire a Public Relations Pro to help them fight back.

They hired Neil Wallis.

wow...


Title: Re: Rupert's Big Scandal
Post by: Howey on July 21, 2011, 10:04:20 pm
so isn't this interesting..

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/07/20/996814/-When-MurdochGate-Met-ClimateGate
wow...

Hey! Didn't we go round and round with someone on the muche about that?


Title: Re: Rupert's Big Scandal
Post by: Howey on July 21, 2011, 10:07:37 pm
Speaking of the climate...I noticed Drudge was all over the heat wave today...but no mention of global warming...

Oh well. It's probably all Obama's fault. ;)


Title: Re: Rupert's Big Scandal
Post by: FooFa on July 22, 2011, 11:25:24 am

The FBI confirmed an investigation a week or so ago. Murdoch actually sat in front of Parliament and did not accept responsibility. The actions had many negative effects aside from the dead teen and the parent's false hope. The British police already had a ton of evidence against the empire from an earlier case but because of Murdoch's power they rolled over and just did the minimum, according to a writer for The Guardian who was on Democracy Now yesterday.


Title: Re: Rupert's Big Scandal
Post by: Howey on July 22, 2011, 11:49:23 am
Murdoch actually sat in front of Parliament and did not accept responsibility.

I saw that..."It's all the underlings fault! The buck don't stop here!"

Oy...[http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/19/us-newscorp-murdoch-papers-idUSTRE76I1IT20110719]liar![/url]

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To illustrate the extent to which Rupert Murdoch used to micro-manage his newspapers, a one-time Murdoch editor told an anecdote about a typical board meeting at the mogul's UK newspaper arm in the 1980s.

News International directors, including some of the most powerful newspaper editors in Britain, would solemnly assemble in a board room within Murdoch's fortress-like publishing compound at Wapping, not far from the Tower of London.

Once assembled, Kelvin MacKenzie, the editor who ran Murdoch's raucous daily tabloid the Sun between 1981 and 1994 and made it the most influential newspaper for much of the Thatcher era, would ask: "Right. Who's going to ring Rupert, then?"

Of course, lying must run in the family: (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/james-murdoch-accused-of-lying/2011/07/22/gIQAmeYRTI_video.html?tid=sm_twitter_washingtonpost)


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A British politician said on Friday he will ask police to investigate a claim contradicting James Murdoch's testimony he was not aware of evidence that the eavesdropping at one of his newspapers went beyond a jailed rogue reporter.

Murdoch's former legal adviser and an ex-editor say they told media mogul Rupert Murdoch's son years ago about an email that suggested the rot at the News of the World tabloid was more widespread than claimed.

News International said James Murdoch stood by his Tuesday statements to the parliamentary committee investigating the spreading phone-hacking scandal, but the allegation could deal a blow to his credibility.

The Murdoch family is struggling to limit the damage from the scandal, which has already cost the media empire one of its British tabloids, two top executives and a billion-dollar bid for control of a satellite broadcaster.

Tom Watson, a lawmaker in the opposition Labour Party, told the BBC on Friday he would ask "formally" for police to investigate the claim.

The conservative lawmaker who heads the committee, James Whittingdale, said James Murdoch could be called to clarify his testimony, but he said it would be in writing and the media executive would not be recalled before the committee.



Title: Re: Rupert's Big Scandal
Post by: FooFa on July 22, 2011, 06:08:41 pm

It's difficult to gauge the impropriety on so many levels. It's come out that not only did they hack and listen but in some cases because a family learned of messages being erased etc...they would then report on that, knowing that it was their own actions causing false hope or whatever.


Title: Re: Rupert's Big Scandal
Post by: FooFa on July 22, 2011, 08:20:39 pm

http://www.democracynow.org/2011/7/22/headlines#8


Title: Re: Rupert's Big Scandal
Post by: Howey on July 22, 2011, 09:39:42 pm
http://www.democracynow.org/2011/7/22/headlines#8

Duh...


Title: Re: Rupert's Big Scandal
Post by: FooFa on July 29, 2011, 07:03:11 pm

Did anyone else notice that when Murdoch was testifying one of his people, an attractive asian, touched his arm at one point to remind him that he was slapping his hand against the table in an ocd way...


Title: Re: Rupert's Big Scandal
Post by: Howey on July 29, 2011, 07:36:54 pm
Did anyone else notice that when Murdoch was testifying one of his people, an attractive asian, touched his arm at one point to remind him that he was slapping his hand against the table in an ocd way...

That was his wife.


Title: Re: Rupert's Big Scandal
Post by: FooFa on July 29, 2011, 08:24:29 pm
That was his wife.

lol It didn't even cross my mind as a possibility. ha Forgot about money goggles, know about beer etc...