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« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2013, 08:04:05 pm »

well said, EKG, well said!
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« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2013, 08:14:04 pm »

Damn...glad ai didn't say I went in blackface for Halloween.

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« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2013, 08:20:33 pm »

I find it hard to believe that anything ever said on here saying that Lee Harvey Oswald did this country a favor.


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« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2013, 08:45:30 pm »

Why would I be? He wasn't calling me a cunt with malicious undertones.. he wasn't threatening me.. he wasn't really doing anything other than saying 'shock-value' word..

malicious undertones? who makes that call? How would you make that a rule?

1. "Don't use cunt in a malicious manner?"

2. "As long as you are not calling someone a cunt directly, you may say it as an exclamation?"

3. "it's ok to call yourself a cunt?"

With that type of rule set, I guess people could say "Man, I acted like a cunt today", or "oh man, I really hope I don't I get very cunt-y."

Does this same standard apply to other words? I am sure you can think of all the major ones. I can ASSURE you, that with your standard we would get the big 3 quite often, claiming they just said the n-word etc "in exclamation, not threatening anybody"

And that excuse wouldn't be good enough.

You can say what you want. Our admins and our mods don't use that type of language, and we have routinely told others to knock it off. At your board here, people seem to have full license to say whatever mean language they wish so long as they know the right people. And idiots like tekky who I am now overjoyed to be free of clap their hands gleefully.

"Oh he was just being a bad boy howey, no harm no foul! His usage of cunt wasn't malicious!"

I'll let ILA and others know the new standard to live up to. Then you guys can have one less thing to circlejerk over.

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again, you can pretend this isn't true... but that would simply be dishonest.  The question I have is.. why do you want those types of people to ruin it for others? Why don't you want a successful forum where anyone and everyone can come along and for the most part, enjoy their visit?

JPP offers freedom. Now I am not here to plug the site and I respect your space, most of the time I come to either talk about survivor or because howey incessantly tweets me something that has no relevance.  That said, some can handle the freedom, others can't.  For those that are offended or dislike certain members, we offer a wealth of options - posting on APP, the ignore feature, the thread ban feature, etc.

At the end of the day, people there make their own experience, and the most ironic thing of all is that 90% of the time, those that have the biggest issues with people, are also the ones the habitually engage them. I have zero sympathy for those individuals.

Lastly, you wouldn't know the first thing about running a successful forum. This is your internet hide-y hole. You don't have more than a handful of members with more than 30 posts. You have never been in a situation where you have had to appease everybody, and craft rules that doesn't interject bias.  JPP has had more posts in the last 2 weeks than likely your forums entire existence. October alone we had 30,000.

So you can play patty-cake all you want over here and talk about the "not bad" use of the word cunt. You can have your admins shout it from the rooftops, and tekky and the other mouthbreathers can be safe and secure knowing that it was totally ok, just a joke. Im fine with that, I am happy to be rid of them.

You can sit on your high horse with howey, and complain all day long about how big money made a post with links that weren't clickable, while regaling about the time howey posted a picture of someones residence along with all their address info.

ekg, truthfully, I don't have much against you personally. I really don't. I have never had a problem with you, so please take into consideration that a lot of what I am saying isn't directed at you personally.

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« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2013, 09:31:25 pm »

30k posts a month with 80% of them being a paedophile troll giggling with the mods and 15% being his fellow trolls stacking others who only want to discuss issues?

Remember, Grind, your post total only includes the boards you can see. And don't forget quantity doesn't hold a candle to quality and intelligence. Each Uselesslegs, EKG, or even Tekky post equals a hundred Big Money posts. Thank God I was able to ban him before he could infest this forum like USF tried to do.
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« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2013, 10:17:18 am »

malicious undertones? who makes that call? How would you make that a rule?

1. "Don't use cunt in a malicious manner?"

2. "As long as you are not calling someone a cunt directly, you may say it as an exclamation?"

3. "it's ok to call yourself a cunt?"

With that type of rule set, I guess people could say "Man, I acted like a cunt today", or "oh man, I really hope I don't I get very cunt-y."

Does this same standard apply to other words? I am sure you can think of all the major ones. I can ASSURE you, that with your standard we would get the big 3 quite often, claiming they just said the n-word etc "in exclamation, not threatening anybody"

And that excuse wouldn't be good enough.

You can say what you want. Our admins and our mods don't use that type of language, and we have routinely told others to knock it off. At your board here, people seem to have full license to say whatever mean language they wish so long as they know the right people. And idiots like tekky who I am now overjoyed to be free of clap their hands gleefully.

"Oh he was just being a bad boy howey, no harm no foul! His usage of cunt wasn't malicious!"

I'll let ILA and others know the new standard to live up to. Then you guys can have one less thing to circlejerk over.

JPP offers freedom. Now I am not here to plug the site and I respect your space, most of the time I come to either talk about survivor or because howey incessantly tweets me something that has no relevance.  That said, some can handle the freedom, others can't.  For those that are offended or dislike certain members, we offer a wealth of options - posting on APP, the ignore feature, the thread ban feature, etc.

At the end of the day, people there make their own experience, and the most ironic thing of all is that 90% of the time, those that have the biggest issues with people, are also the ones the habitually engage them. I have zero sympathy for those individuals.

Lastly, you wouldn't know the first thing about running a successful forum. This is your internet hide-y hole. You don't have more than a handful of members with more than 30 posts. You have never been in a situation where you have had to appease everybody, and craft rules that doesn't interject bias.  JPP has had more posts in the last 2 weeks than likely your forums entire existence. October alone we had 30,000.

So you can play patty-cake all you want over here and talk about the "not bad" use of the word cunt. You can have your admins shout it from the rooftops, and tekky and the other mouthbreathers can be safe and secure knowing that it was totally ok, just a joke. Im fine with that, I am happy to be rid of them.

You can sit on your high horse with howey, and complain all day long about how big money made a post with links that weren't clickable, while regaling about the time howey posted a picture of someones residence along with all their address info.

ekg, truthfully, I don't have much against you personally. I really don't. I have never had a problem with you, so please take into consideration that a lot of what I am saying isn't directed at you personally.

take care


Thank you for your well thought reply..You brought up some good points that I hope to answer Smiley But,I don't have time to respond right now... and I wanted you to know I have read this and when I get home later today I will reply back to you.. Wink
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« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2013, 10:21:12 am »

ekg...I didn't call you a cunt. I said this was my halloween costume.

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« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2013, 10:23:05 am »

Clarification for Grind: I would never call anyone on here or JPP a "cunt". That's a term reserved solely for Sarah Palin because it drives the right wingers nutso when I do it. And because she really is.
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« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2013, 10:26:01 am »

Grind, one of the forums I'm checking out has a rule "Don't be a dick". That's pretty simple.

If you can't see that many of ILA's posts are him being a dick, that's your problem.

Trust me, I'm happy not to have that filth in my life anymore. Glad you're happy I'm not on your forum. However, that says much more negative about YOU than it does about me.
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« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2013, 11:13:03 am »

I'd like to clarify a couple of things.

A. I don't "incessantly tweet" Grind, I tweet him because he asked me too.

B. Grind's selective memory fails to remember that a poster posted his own addresses. I merely posted a google earth pic of them because that poster was bragging about his magnificent condo when in fact it was a tenement. Here's their forum rule covering that: " If you post your own information it is the same thing as giving permission for others to use that information".

But I was banned anyhow.  Roll Eyes

Then I was banned after said poster posted a pic of his son holding a baby. The son appeared to be in his late 20s to mid 30s so I offhandedly said he was cute and asked if he was a bottom.

THEN the poster came back and accused me of being a paedophile making comments about his supposedly "16" year old son and I was banned. Even though the forum owner apologized to me.

Mod discretion and all that, yo!
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« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2013, 01:08:12 am »

SonnyBeech!!!

I had a nice long reply typed out and power blinked off and killed it.. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr so this reply will be the cliff-notes version-LOL



malicious undertones? who makes that call? How would you make that a rule?


You act like it would difficult..

Townhall Rules

There.. in the very 1st paragraph.


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This is an adult content forum that may and probably will contain sexist, racist, homophobic, pornographic and adult quips.. but, out and out malicious racism, sexism, homophobia and vileness will not be tolerated and will be judged and dealt with on a case by case basis at the Mod/Admins discretion.. Whether that means editing the post or simply deleting it will be decided by the moderators/admins
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that's the key phrase right there.. 'at the mod/admins discretion'

see, the thing is... 'violators' know when they've violated the rules.. they might pretend, like you did  Wink, that they can't tell the difference between "hey, I'm going as a cunt for halloween" vs. "You're a fucking cunt and should die".. but they know the difference.. and if they're really stupid enough to not see the difference? Ok.. It's still your board-your rules, right?


Does this same standard apply to other words? I am sure you can think of all the major ones. I can ASSURE you, that with your standard we would get the big 3 quite often, claiming they just said the n-word etc "in exclamation, not threatening anybody"

I don't know how much you've read this board, but we use all the words here... darth uses them all in a single post.. sometimes those posts are removed and sometimes there left here.. But there are lines and  it's our (mods) job to decide if those lines are crossed..

For the most part..I pretty much live by 'let the board sort it out' on most issues.. but when people are being harassed just for the amusement of a cpl of assholes, then I'll step in..


You can say what you want. Our admins and our mods don't use that type of language, and we have routinely told others to knock it off. At your board here, people seem to have full license to say whatever mean language they wish so long as they know the right people. And idiots like tekky who I am now overjoyed to be free of clap their hands gleefully.

once again I refer you to the Rules..

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Mods/Admins.

The Mods and Admins of the board are people you interact with. They don't expect preferential treatment, nor do they expect abuse. 99.9% of the interaction you will have with a 'mod/admin' will be just as if they were regular people without the ability to edit/delete/ban you. Treat them this way. Normal. And for the love of God, don't get all "You're a mod and you're being 'mod-mean' to me." Unless the moderators has put on his/her 'mod-hat' and said "Ok, I'm Admin now".. then no, they aren't being 'mod-mean' to you.. they're being regular ole board-mean to you..

I know.. it's a fine line.. So think of it like we're your brother who is also an FBI agent.. You can joke and kid and play with him.. Maybe you'll yahoo beer on Saturday just like you did when you were a teen-ager. He may smoke a fat joint with you and pee in the fountain downtown.. 100% normal brotherly interaction. But, when he shows up with his FBI jacket and shield.. he's no longer 'brother'... that's when he's Special Agent Brother..and that's when the 'fun' stops.

as for 'know the right people'.. Grind, for the most part.. we've all been posting together since about 1997-98. we came from a large community like JPP.. we know each other intimately. We vacation together, go to lunch together.. we hang out at each others houses, know each other families, and in some cases seen each other naked (HEDO baby Smiley ).. IOW, we're 'real life' friends as well as board-people..so its not so much of a 'who you know' type deal as it's a "I know what he/she meant because I've been real-life friends with him/her since 1999.

and we also offer a 'freedom' here.. a freedom for anyone,member or mod to interact as they wish..



JPP offers freedom. Now I am not here to plug the site and I respect your space, most of the time I come to either talk about survivor or because howey incessantly tweets me something that has no relevance.  That said, some can handle the freedom, others can't.  For those that are offended or dislike certain members, we offer a wealth of options - posting on APP, the ignore feature, the thread ban feature, etc.

At the end of the day, people there make their own experience, and the most ironic thing of all is that 90% of the time, those that have the biggest issues with people, are also the ones the habitually engage them. I have zero sympathy for those individuals.

and I agree with you there. we've had ppl from other boards come here thinking it was going to be some kind of cake-walk where they could say what they want and never get challenged.. and one post from some of our rather 'harsher' members sent them running to the 'report post' button.. So I went and took a look at their behavior on their 'other' board and found them saying things like "I hope your children die in a firey death while you watch and your wife is getting ass-raped".. At that point I pretty much ignore every time that member wanted to whine about seeing the word 'bitch' being thrown around here...People make it what they want it to be and some people just can't play nice with others.. and others will give as good at they get, but complain the minute they're boxed in and have no where else to go..

But from my own experience on JPP, and I'm not shitting on your site.. as I said, for the most part it was a good experience and 4-5 years ago I would have probably been one of your most prolific posters.. I just don't have the time these days for something that large.. but in my brief time there.. the 'freedom' you say that you offer, was the 'freedom' for bullies to bully for no other reason than they wanted to. ..and that's not a bad thing, I'm not saying you should stop that.. the board has to work itself out 1st and Mods step in only when they have to.. But from what I saw you have 3-4 people whose only joy comes from ruining someone elses day.. and not like 'once and in awhile'.. they hunt for people just to ruin their time there..and they seem to do it with immunity. That's not any fun for some people..

Lastly, you wouldn't know the first thing about running a successful forum. This is your internet hide-y hole. You don't have more than a handful of members with more than 30 posts. You have never been in a situation where you have had to appease everybody, and craft rules that doesn't interject bias.  JPP has had more posts in the last 2 weeks than likely your forums entire existence. October alone we had 30,000.


you assume that this is the only board any of us have been on or run..you would be wrong.  I do know of this larger type of forum you speak of.. LOL and I do know the headache in moderating a bunch of whiney bitches..

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ekg, truthfully, I don't have much against you personally. I really don't. I have never had a problem with you, so please take into consideration that a lot of what I am saying isn't directed at you personally.

take care

Thank you for that.. I don't have anything against you and believe me when I say, I have nothing against your board either. I'm just answering the questions you asked simply because I try to be buffer here.. It's all good grind. Your place isn't going to suffer by the loss of a 1/2 dozen people who ILA runs off.. and if you're happy at the end of the day with ILA and others like him then that's all that matters..

Take it easy.. Wink
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« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2013, 07:45:51 am »

ekg...I didn't call you a cunt. I said this was my halloween costume.



I know.. Wink
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« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2013, 09:25:42 am »

Well written, EKG! love these two lines especially -

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see, the thing is... 'violators' know when they've violated the rules.. they might pretend, like you did  , that they can't tell the difference between "hey, I'm going as a cunt for halloween" vs. "You're a fucking cunt and should die".. but they know the difference.. and if they're really stupid enough to not see the difference? Ok..

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Your place isn't going to suffer by the loss of a 1/2 dozen people who ILA runs off.. and if you're happy at the end of the day with ILA and others like him then that's all that matters..

Per your first statement - there is a difference, the mods know it, the posters know it, and the people it's addressed to know it.

But as per your second statement - if they are happy with the ILAs of the world, then they can keep them.
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« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2013, 01:46:20 pm »

Well written, EKG! love these two lines especially -

Per your first statement - there is a difference, the mods know it, the posters know it, and the people it's addressed to know it.

But as per your second statement - if they are happy with the ILAs of the world, then they can keep them.

 Wink Wink Smiley
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