Quote from: lil mike on April 04, 2010, 07:17:12 PM
First of all, I’m not a liar.
In a blog of yours, where you implicitly tie in Tea Partiers and Republicans as a violent fringe that threatens real assassinations, threats, and racism, and explicitly addressed me as, if not an actual dangerous extremist myself, as an apologist for them.
A smear, sure, but par for the course, and I responded here:
http://thevsj.com/are-they-trying-to-get-someone-killed#comment-531Of course the key is I listed all kind of violence, threats, calls for assassination, and vandalism done by your side (and it’s a fairly extensive list - I didn’t even scratch the surface).
And I suggested to you that actually, “that there are crazies on both sides and we should stick to the issues.” A point on which you declined to agree.
Again in another comment:
http://thevsj.com/are-they-trying-to-get-someone-killed#comment-536I clearly stated that, “I oppose vandalism and threats of violence, regardless of who is doing it. And as a good law and order conservative, the guilty parties should be punished with the full force of the law.
But you guys racked up quiet a history of vandalism, violence, and threats of violence. Did you ever try to do the same? Nope. You were not bothered at all when it was your side committing violence, vandalism, death threats, and of course calls for assasination of the President. ”
Your reply? “of course the threats were much worse under us than under you..” and then you proceeded to justify them. And that leads us to my blog.
So you then you decided to double down on the liar meme and lie that I had made up a quote for you. The idea that I, “removed "anger and distrust" and inserted "violence and hate" you produced a false statement and attributed it to me..” is totally false.
You lied about it.
The fact that you would lie about something that is so easily verifiable (just read my blog) is frankly rather stunning, I didn’t misquote or alter a quote of yours. The words were clearly mine. They were never attributed to you.
The fact that you would totally make that up is what finally had me put two and two together:
You’re fucking nuts.
I mean, really kooky, not just in the way that most girls are, although that plays a part too, but delusional, paranoia type kooky. But more on that later.
Meanwhile, you are lying about me “he hates America, he’s Muslim, he wasn’t born here anyway so he’s not a ‘real’ President.. he’s the anti-Christ.
(sadly, Mike agreed with 95% of that description too..and was probably nodding his head saying “yes, he is, Yes he does”)”
So you accuse me of thinking he’s a muslim, that he is the anti-Christ, and say that I’m a birther.
Ironic for a former birther like youself. So basically you lied about me.
And now you are lying about me lying about you… oh brother!
Now that I’ve addressed the “lies” let me address the kookiness.
I thought it was bizarre that the crucible that you decided to end our friendship on was over an issue in which I said you were partially right. In fact, it turned out you were far less than partially correct on that as I had posted:
http://muchedumbre.com/forum/index.php/topic,26574.msg428956.html#msg428956But for whatever reason, you decided to make that the Waterloo of our friendship. My response? OK.
In retrospect, I should have seen this coming. You’ve been calling me a liar and racist for months. Now being called a racist is about the worse insult you can make in contemporary America, so why would you say that, unless:
a. I really posted something that was racist.
b. You wanted to throw the biggest turd in the punchbowl.
As far as calling me a liar, I finally was able to pin you down and what specifically I had “lied” about and your response?
No I may decide to address them each individually in the future, although there is little reason to do that other than to make you look more foolish than you already do, but the gist, is that a lie for you seems to be something you disagree with.
That is something I have known about you for years, going all the way back to the “18 words” debates. If you disagree with something, then it’s a “lie.”
So I guess that’s why I’ve never really gotten all bent out of shape by your constant accusations of lying by me, since you’ve stretched that word so far out of any reasonable definition, that coming from you, it means nothing.
Now, back to you being nuts.
I don’t really have access to your life or whats going on with it, just the slice that you decide to show on the board and blogs, but I had noticed for quite a while, in a political sense you were more angry and bitter since your party has been in power than in the bad old days of “Bushitler.” That didn’t seem logical to me, but I figured it was just a lefty thing. But then you basically stopped debating actual policy and just started ad hominem attacks, against all Republicans of course, Tea Partiers, and … me personally.
But… I hadn’t really done much to affirmatively defend myself. Now here is where my theorizing begins. I don’t know if these were your motives, and really I will never know since you will deny it regardless, but it’s well known that bitches crave drama. You had been calling me out of months, liar, racist, and I had not really sufficiently responded. Sure I denied them, but with no drama. I think you had decided months ago to end our friendship, but you wanted it to go out with a bang. So the personal attacks against me began, to provoke me into some sort of emotionally charged webboard Armageddon. When those didn’t work, you decided to just pick a point of disagreement, and state that this is it, make it or break it, with our friendship. The subject you picked? The Reconcilliation vs Nuclear Option thread:
http://muchedumbre.com/forum/index.php/topic,26574.msg425617.html#msg425617“now I've got it.. Thank God we can finally get rid of any pretense of a friendship..”
Since you being “partially right” was far to kind, it was a silly line in the sand, but my response? It wasn’t groveling, an apology or anger or anguish.
It was, OK.
I think that enraged you; that you were being denied the drama you felt that you so richly deserved. So when I posted my blog, which was after all, a blog that was partially directed at you, you couldn’t contain yourself and ended up posting on the board in multiple occurrences that I had attributed the statement, “Because the violence and hate of the left was justified!” to you when I had not.
You lied about that. And I don’t mean in your everything-I-disagree-with-is-a-lie way, I mean in the actual meaning of the word, you deliberately posted something false, and something that is ridiculously easy to verify (just check out my blog!
http://thevsj.com/some-like-it-hate )
So there you go. You got what you wanted: drama. I don’t know if it’s satisfactory for you, but it will have to do. I suspect you probably were disappointed that there were no tears shed by me for our friendship, but by the time we got to this point, you had just gotten tiring. I could deal with the anger when you channeled it to interesting points and debate, but when it’s just one ad hominem attack after another… well it’s just exhausting, with no pay off. I wouldn’t put up with this kind of dreary, depressing, negativity from some girl I was actually banging, so why in the world would I want to put up with it from you?
Your constant negativity and anger is just draining and not enjoyable. So you got to end this, but frankly, I’m glad you did. I might have put up with this several more months before doing it myself.
So to summarize, you are a slanderer, a liar, it’s not me, it’s you, and we’re done.
Also you're fucking nuts.
So I wish you luck in your future endeavors.
ok
in the end, you made up a statement and attributed it to me.. and then set conditions that I had to agree to in order for you to correct the record that you made up..
you can say anything you want.. but if I had ever attributed something to you that was not your view point, and you specifically asked me to retract it.. I never, ever would have set up conditions for you to follow before I would retract it, and you know it.. but you never ever did.. and when I did(after a list of previous incidences as long, if not longer, than yours btw), you danced around it and gave me a list of conditions I had to agree to before you would correct anything.. I certainly wouldn't have started off with an excuse as to why I lied..like you just did..
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First of all, I’m not a liar.
In a blog of yours, where you implicitly tie in Tea Partiers and Republicans as a violent fringe that threatens real assassinations, threats, and racism, and explicitly addressed me as, if not an actual dangerous extremist myself, as an apologist for them.
A smear, sure, but par for the course, and I responded here:
if you did nothing wrong, why the need to excuse it with a list of where you felt you were smeared and just never asked me to amend it..?
while I may be the villain in many places.. this time that role is yours... not mine