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Why Crazy Ron Paul gets support.

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« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2012, 09:59:56 pm »

I visited Grin. We're so fucked it's not even funny. After what seemed like calmer heads prevailing over Iran, breaking stories this evening have brought that little hope to a crashing halt. About the nine or so newsletters in question from the late 80's or early 90's, Paul has stated that he didn't keep a close enough eye on them and accepted responsibility;it was a separate org that did the actual racist type talk.

I don't accept you're lamestream's  Tongue pronouncement that he's not electable. The way they are playing games with the Iowa delegates, he damn sure will be not electable. It was a statistical dead heat.

Since executive orders and stacks of proof about how the country is a corporation and we are quickly descending into neo feudalism count as the C word here, I can't speak much but I would be for Paul since he is a good person, never accepted medicare/medicaid money and has a perfect constitutional record as well as never once voting for a tax increase. I believe the structure, COG, etc...has been so usurped, so incrementally, that even if he could get in there, he would be so at odds with the 9% approval rating of congress, which the super congress makes null and void anyway...I see plumes of smoke and hell on earth in the immediate future.
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« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2012, 12:17:12 am »

Paul lost me when he, and his son both, stood by their belief that individual liberties should ultimately trump societal equality, as business and land owners saw fit, to whatever belief or extreme that entailed.  This particular Thought Experiment troubles me greatly, in that, it's assumed that organically it will manifest itself *eventually*, to be a positive in a Utopian fashion of harmony.

From the civil war forward, it took government intervention finally in the 60's to force inclusion and equality of other members of our society that had been here as long as any one else.  This wasn't just a problem in the south. The north, while more progressive and welcoming, was still also woefully lacking.  Even our gay population is just now, with government intervention, seeing some semblance of equality emerge, but are still struggling to enjoy those equality's and will for some time to come I imagine.

I like that he seemingly sees organic solutions as being positive in short order...but history and reality paint a very stark contrast to the belief.
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« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2012, 09:19:42 am »

Paul lost me when he, and his son both, stood by their belief that individual liberties should ultimately trump societal equality, as business and land owners saw fit, to whatever belief or extreme that entailed.  This particular Thought Experiment troubles me greatly, in that, it's assumed that organically it will manifest itself *eventually*, to be a positive in a Utopian fashion of harmony.

From the civil war forward, it took government intervention finally in the 60's to force inclusion and equality of other members of our society that had been here as long as any one else.  This wasn't just a problem in the south. The north, while more progressive and welcoming, was still also woefully lacking.  Even our gay population is just now, with government intervention, seeing some semblance of equality emerge, but are still struggling to enjoy those equality's and will for some time to come I imagine.

I like that he seemingly sees organic solutions as being positive in short order...but history and reality paint a very stark contrast to the belief.

You say it so much better than I do. This is my complaint with him. To me; ignorance of racism or hate is the same as racism and hate. Glossing it over with shouts of freedom from government intrusion doesn't help.
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