ya know.. this belong here in the 'Nutty As A Effin Fruitcake' thread..
the supreme Court today..
the solicitor general's argument for mandating young people buy medical insurance..
GENERAL VERRILLI: That’s the problem, Justice Scalia. That’s — and that’s exactly the experience that the States had that made the imposition of guaranteed-issue and community rating not only be ineffectual but be highly counterproductive. Rates, for example, in New Jersey doubled or tripled, went from 180,000 people covered in this market down to 80,000 people covered in this market. In Kentucky, virtually every insurer left the market. And the reason for that is because when people have that guarantee of — that they can get insurance, they’re going to make that calculation that they won’t get it until they’re sick and they need it, and so the pool of people in the insurance market gets smaller and smaller. The rates you have to charge to cover them get higher and higher. It helps fewer and fewer — insurance covers fewer and fewer people until the system ends. This is not a situation in which you’re conscripting — you’re forcing insurance companies to cover very large numbers of unhealthy people –
and Scalia's brilliant retort.. remember, we're talking about medical insurance..for the young, for when they get sick or injured.
JUSTICE SCALIA: You could solve that problem by simply not requiring the insurance company to sell it to somebody who has a — a condition that is going to require medical treatment, or at least not — not require them to sell it to him at — at a rate that he sells it to healthy people. But you don’t want to do that.
what? let companies sells medical insurance and not force them to supply the medical part? isn't that fraud? and uh, isn't that exactly the problem..? insurance companies just keep the money you pay them for their bonus' instead of for your medical treatment?
but hey, Scalia also figures everyone will buy medical insurance, just like he does..
JUSTICE SCALIA: When — when they think they have a substantial risk of incurring high medical bills, they’ll buy insurance, like the rest of us. But –
GENERAL VERRILLI: That’s — that’s –
JUSTICE SCALIA: — I don’t know why you think that they’re never going to buy it.
The rest of US?
you, Mr. Scalia, buy GOVERNMENT insurance that is subsidized by the tax payer, to lower cost, while not decreasing the medical treatments!!!! EXACTLY WHAT WE ALL WANT,but you're advocating young people NOT buy insurance and insurance companies NOT cover medical treatments, or if they do, charge much more for them..
the rest of 'us' dont' have the government,tax payer subsidized,low cost,unlimited coverage, medical insurance that you do.. and that's what we're trying to get a scrap of..
the people who think this way, who have guaranteed excellent health care, need to spend a year in the world of those who don't have shit..
if I hear one more retarded remark of
"you're not denied basic health care, you can use the ER, or you can bargain with your doctor. They took the Hippocratic oath, they have to treat you" I'm going to go Zimmerman (too soon?) on someone.. NO they don't have to treat you, and you're advocating someone use the ER for a $40 strep throat doctor visit.. which will cost
you, not them because they don't have the money, but
you $750+ lab and doctors fee's.. brilliant move retard.
I seriously wish I had magic to make people live in the world they want to create for others to live in.. grrrr
