|
ekg
|
 |
« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2011, 05:13:14 pm » |
|
i suppose this quote through me off a bit...as if you were suggesting no one would be driving until the next batch of oil had been created. as if the process has a off period, when it doesn't...
i know...you think we...the lil protons of the planet are going to consume all the oil...its finite...
because that is how you/we have been trained to think via propaganda...its bullshit
but....thats just my opinion...not a lil mike twist
I may be misunderstanding you.. but are you saying we will never run out of oil? that it is constantly being re-made everyday? |
Facts are the center. We don’t pretend that certain facts are in dispute to give the appearance of fairness to people who don’t believe them. Balance is irrelevant to me. It doesn’t have anything to do with truth, logic or reality. ~Charlie Skinner (the Newsroom)
|
|
|
|
betteroffhere
|
|
« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2011, 05:43:22 pm » |
|
I may be misunderstanding you.. but are you saying we will never run out of oil? that it is constantly being re-made everyday?
correct... not so much as never...like the sun example...at some point...everything will exhaust itself... its just we won't be the cause of it... |
|
|
|
|
ekg
|
|
« Reply #32 on: March 04, 2011, 08:34:59 am » |
|
correct...
not so much as never...like the sun example...at some point...everything will exhaust itself...
its just we won't be the cause of it...
is this a 'theory' of yours? or something you've read? What makes you say something like? Because as far as I know (which on this issue really isn't much).. all the science says otherwise.. or is your contention that there is conspiracy to keep us uniformed/misinformed about this issue to keep us scared 'sheep' and thus easier to control by making us buy into the propaganda...literally and figuratively? |
Facts are the center. We don’t pretend that certain facts are in dispute to give the appearance of fairness to people who don’t believe them. Balance is irrelevant to me. It doesn’t have anything to do with truth, logic or reality. ~Charlie Skinner (the Newsroom)
|
|
|
|
betteroffhere
|
|
« Reply #33 on: March 04, 2011, 04:29:08 pm » |
|
is this a 'theory' of yours?Yes... or something you've read?decades of reading
What makes you say something like? Because as far as I know (which on this issue really isn't much).. all the science says otherwise..who's science ?...i've watched this bullshit for over 40 years...and science has been consitantly wrong....
or is your contention that there is conspiracy to keep us uniformed/misinformed about this issue to keep us scared 'sheep' and thus easier to control by making us buy into the propaganda...literally and figuratively?
correct...that is my contention...nothing more nothing less...could i prove it...idk...but there is enough compelling evidence over the last forty years to suggest it is all bullshit...by design |
|
|
|
|
ekg
|
|
« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2011, 08:42:02 pm » |
|
.who's science ?...i've watched this bullshit for over 40 years...and science has been consitantly wrong....
correct...that is my contention...nothing more nothing less...could i prove it...idk...but there is enough compelling evidence over the last forty years to suggest it is all bullshit...by design
so, over the last 40 years the science has said it is finite.. and you are saying all the science over the last 40 years, is wrong.. and they are wrong by design? meaning there has been a grand conspiracy.. I would hope you're right.. because if the science is right and we are depleting the oil before we can replace it.. in the next few years after 'peak-oil' we're going to screwed.. |
Facts are the center. We don’t pretend that certain facts are in dispute to give the appearance of fairness to people who don’t believe them. Balance is irrelevant to me. It doesn’t have anything to do with truth, logic or reality. ~Charlie Skinner (the Newsroom)
|
|
|
|
betteroffhere
|
|
« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2011, 09:16:16 pm » |
|
so, over the last 40 years the science has said it is finite.. and you are saying all the science over the last 40 years, is wrong..
and they are wrong by design? meaning there has been a grand conspiracy..
I would hope you're right.. because if the science is right and we are depleting the oil before we can replace it.. in the next few years after 'peak-oil' we're going to screwed..
i suddenly feel the need to take this to another bored...but i'm not sure which... between the five or so of us here...i've began to look at the dynamics of the education system through our posts... i'm assuming we are products of public schooling...and based on the different ways words are digested from the posts that are replied to and how far the pendulum can swing over just a word and its context is frightening... the fuckers have us by pre k now...orginized disorientation...each town each city,state...programming us...different agendas,different skills...pre determined education...and thinking process...for their greater porpuse we all fit the nitch we have been designed to function in...palying our role like a drone believeing we have free will... buying the goods sold to us that we find interest in... destractions designed to keep you from winning....the real game |
|
|
|
|
|
lil mike
Noob
Karma: +2/-4
 Offline
Posts: 907
 Badges: (View All)  
|
|
« Reply #37 on: March 08, 2011, 02:32:35 pm » |
|
correct...
not so much as never...like the sun example...at some point...everything will exhaust itself...
its just we won't be the cause of it...
I'm familiar with the theory you're speaking of, and I think that for now at least, it's just a theory, although I can see the incentive to want to believe in that particular theory. Just like the AGW people really want to believe in AGW because it already fits a worldview... But even if it's correct in terms of how oil is generated (and it's possible since we can do it that way in the lab), that doesn't mean that we can't outpace the amount of oil generation and still run out, for all practical purposes anyway. But we've only had a 50 year world supply of oil for over a 100 years. We are constantly finding more, and are able to refine more (the oil sands) as our technology gets better. That said we have no practical way to replace it with our current technology and still maintain our current industrial lifestyle. So for the short term (the next 0-40 years) we better find and use all the oil we can get until at least we can ween ourselves off it. |
|
|
|
|
|
betteroffhere
|
|
« Reply #38 on: March 08, 2011, 04:20:19 pm » |
|
I'm familiar with the theory you're speaking of, and I think that for now at least, it's just a theory, although I can see the incentive to want to believe in that particular theory. Just like the AGW people really want to believe in AGW because it already fits a worldview...
But even if it's correct in terms of how oil is generated (and it's possible since we can do it that way in the lab), that doesn't mean that we can't outpace the amount of oil generation and still run out, for all practical purposes anyway.
But we've only had a 50 year world supply of oil for over a 100 years. We are constantly finding more, and are able to refine more (the oil sands) as our technology gets better.
That said we have no practical way to replace it with our current technology and still maintain our current industrial lifestyle. So for the short term (the next 0-40 years) we better find and use all the oil we can get until at least we can ween ourselves off it.
idk what AGW is.... and i think i understand what you are saying... something to the effect that we will outpace the ability for earth to replenish itself... i doubt it... |
|
|
|
|
FooFa
|
|
« Reply #39 on: March 08, 2011, 05:05:57 pm » |
|
AGW Anthropogenic Global Warming
AGW Anti-Global Warming
I just watched a documentary on hulu about some artists going to the north pole to get impressions about the issue which is not worth your time imho. But the scientist who has been there for over ten years said that global warming is 95% man made. I still don't what to think about it. I see this as related since global warming or climate change is similarly bandied about as oil supply.
|
|
|
|
|
Howey
|
|
« Reply #40 on: March 11, 2011, 04:30:50 pm » |
|
It comes as no surprise that the President is being blamed for increased gas prices.
A senior US senator on Thursday ruled out violent unrest across the Middle East as a main cause of surging oil and gasoline prices, placing the blame instead on plans to curb greenhouse gases.
"A lot of people are saying that the gas prices that are going up are a result, partially, of what's happening over there. That isn't the real problem," said Republican Senator James Inhofe, his party's senior member on the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee and a climate change skeptic.
Inhofe said that "the real problem" was President Barack Obama's efforts to enact a cap-and-trade plan to curb emissions of greenhouse gases blamed by scientists for global warming. Notwithstanding the turmoil in the Middle East, it's the same ol', same ol'. Thankfully, the Prez has grown a pair: "Now, the hard truth is, is that as long as our economy depends on foreign oil, we'll always be subject to price spikes. So we've got to get moving on a comprehensive energy strategy that pursues both more energy production and more energy conservation. We need to increase our access to secure energy supplies in the near term, and we've got to make our economy more energy-efficient and energy-independent over the long run.
"Let me be more specific. First, we need to continue to boost domestic production of oil and gas. Last year, American oil production reached its highest level since 2003. Let me repeat that. Our oil production reached its highest level in seven years. Oil production from federal waters in the Gulf of Mexico reached an all-time high. For the first time in more than a decade, imports accounted for less than half of what we consumed.
"So any notion that my administration has shut down oil production might make for a good political sound bite, but it doesn't match up with reality. We are encouraging offshore exploration and production. We're just doing it responsibly." "So beyond increased domestic production, if we want to secure our long-term prosperity and protect the American people from more severe oil shocks in the future, the way to do it is to gradually reduce demand and then do everything we can to break our dependence on oil. [...]
"But the bottom line is this. We've been having this conversation for nearly four decades now. Every few years, gas prices go up; politicians pull out the same old political playbook, and then nothing changes. And when prices go back down, we slip back into a trance. And then when prices go up, suddenly we're shocked. I think the American people are tired of that." I guess the upcoming Republican response to these smart words will be: Drill Baby, Drill! |
|
|
|
|
44nutman
|
|
« Reply #41 on: March 11, 2011, 07:17:26 pm » |
|
i suddenly feel the need to take this to another bored...but i'm not sure which...
between the five or so of us here...i've began to look at the dynamics of the education system through our posts...
i'm assuming we are products of public schooling...and based on the different ways words are digested from the posts that are replied to and how far the pendulum can swing over just a word and its context is frightening...
the fuckers have us by pre k now...orginized disorientation...each town each city,state...programming us...different agendas,different skills...pre determined education...and thinking process...for their greater porpuse
we all fit the nitch we have been designed to function in...palying our role like a drone believeing we have free will...
buying the goods sold to us that we find interest in...
destractions designed to keep you from winning....the real game
You should read A Brave New World. There is some proof it was plagerized but a good read none the less. Everyone is worried about 1984 happening they got the wrong book. |
|
|
|
|
|
Howey
|
|
« Reply #42 on: March 11, 2011, 08:35:07 pm » |
|
You should read A Brave New World. There is some proof it was plagerized but a good read none the less. Everyone is worried about 1984 happening they got the wrong book.
I understand there's a new version of it coming out this year. http://www.scifimoviepage.com/upcoming/previews/brave_new_world.htmlStarring Leonardo DiCaprio, who must be doing a hell of a lot of drugs lately.  |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
