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« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2011, 06:41:48 pm » |
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Have I said recently that Rush is an idiot? And a racist? "If the troops still engage in battle, if they go to war and execute the orders issued by their commanders, if the troops are thus not paid by their commander in chief, are they his slaves? What would you call it? Can those serving in the military just walk off the job? I don't think so. So if Obama does not sign the bill to pay his troops, then it sounds sort of like forced labor to me. I mean, it's one thing, folks -- and we can all agree on this -- it's one thing to have to pick cotton. But to be forced to risk your life overseas without being paid, that's the worst kind of forced labor to me. Are you kidding me? [...]
"If the president refuses to fund the troops, if the commander in chief refuses to pay the troops - and congressman Jim Moran in Virginia tells a voter who wants to know why the troops aren't being paid to shut up and sit down, and if these guys expect these troops to stay on the job, it sure sounds like Obama has more in common with President Jefferson Davis than he does with President Lincoln." At least Huckabee says something right finally: http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/4634594/huckabee-dont-let-the-government-shut-down-/"Don't let the government shut down because the consequences of that are going to hurt the Republicans, not the Democrats, and the Republicans can't win this battle when you get down to it.
"In other words, nobody's more pro-life than me. Nobody. But as much as I want to see Planned Parenthood defunded, as much as I want to see NPR lose their funding, the reality is, the president and the Senate are never going to go along with that. So, win the deal you can win, live to fight another day, and fight the Paul Ryan battle because that's the one that will change America for the future and the next generation."
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« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2011, 08:09:58 pm » |
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I heard from a friend in DC that the republicans have caved, the Planned Parenthood provision Boehner has been denying all day is not the sticking point has been tabled, and the shutdown will be averted.
More soon as I get it.
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« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2011, 08:45:47 pm » |
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According to The National Journal: Numerous GOP and Democratic sources on and off Capitol Hill tell National Journal the outline of the deal is as follows: up to $39 billion in cuts from the 2010 budget, $514 billion for the defense budget covering the remainder of this fiscal year, a GOP agreement to abandon controversial policy riders dealing with Planned Parenthood and the EPA, and an agreement to pass a “bridge” continuing resolution tonight to keep the government operating while the deal is written in bill form.
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« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2011, 09:36:43 pm » |
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I suspect Think Progress isn't lying about this: http://twitter.com/#!/thinkprogress/statuses/56457832400297985 link no work for the non-twitterers 
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Facts are the center. We don’t pretend that certain facts are in dispute to give the appearance of fairness to people who don’t believe them. Balance is irrelevant to me. It doesn’t have anything to do with truth, logic or reality. ~Charlie Skinner (the Newsroom)
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« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2011, 09:58:30 pm » |
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link no work for the non-twitterers  You are sooooo last century.  Basically there are emails in their possession that it's all been about Planned Parenthood.
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« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2011, 10:10:42 pm » |
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You are sooooo last century.  Basically there are emails in their possession that it's all been about Planned Parenthood. of course it is.. it's always about what someone is doing in their bedroom or their doctor's office..
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Facts are the center. We don’t pretend that certain facts are in dispute to give the appearance of fairness to people who don’t believe them. Balance is irrelevant to me. It doesn’t have anything to do with truth, logic or reality. ~Charlie Skinner (the Newsroom)
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« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2011, 10:25:18 pm » |
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Of courwe they'd all be bitching when all those unwanted babies born because the mother and father didn't get counseling and contraception from Planned Parenthood ended up in the welfare system. Or dead.
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« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2011, 11:09:41 pm » |
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I heard from a friend in DC that the republicans have caved, the Planned Parenthood provision Boehner has been denying all day is not the sticking point has been tabled, and the shutdown will be averted.
More soon as I get it.
You heard it here first!
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« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2011, 12:28:20 pm » |
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It is sad to see that even John Kyl will lie.. then again, maybe he's just gullible and believed what someone else told him.. either way, that's a pretty sad day when something like that happens.. Jon Kyl Is Sorry If He Gave Anyone The Impression That The Things He Says In Public Are Factual As you may recall, during today's lengthy Pap Smear Armageddon/Government Shutdown 2011 pageant play, Senate Minority Whip Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) stood on the floor of the upper chamber, telling the C-Span cameras and gathered attendees that abortion was "well over 90 percent of what Planned Parenthood does." That prompted many people to remark, "Uhm, actually, you have got those statistics just about as wrong as you possibly could." But now, Kyl's office has walked back the statement, in perhaps the most hilarious and cowardly way possible. Let's kick this over to Alex Seitz-Wald, at ThinkProgress: This afternoon, CNN brought on Planned Parenthood's Judy Tabar to discuss his comment. During the interview, CNN anchor Don Lemon relayed a statement from Kyl's office walking back the comment, claiming the statement was not meant to be "factual":
LEMON: We did call his office trying to ask what he was talking about there. And I just want to give it you verbatim here. It says, 'his remark was not intended to be a factual statement, but rather to illustrate that Planned Parenthood, a organization that receives millions of dollars in taxpayer funding, does subsidize abortions.' http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/08/jon-kyl-is-sorry-if-he-ga_n_846941.html If it wasn't meant to be factual, then why use it as the reason for the bill? Why would you intentionally make something up just to pass a bill your party wants passed? this kind of rhetoric speaks volumes to just how far they will go to get what they want.. so far as to just intentionally make stuff up and if you catch them, great, they'll clarify that they didn't really mean for you to take it as real.. but if you don't catch them? all the better? I really do wonder if Kyle would have clarified that he wasn't being 'factual' had he not been caught..
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Facts are the center. We don’t pretend that certain facts are in dispute to give the appearance of fairness to people who don’t believe them. Balance is irrelevant to me. It doesn’t have anything to do with truth, logic or reality. ~Charlie Skinner (the Newsroom)
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« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2011, 04:16:09 pm » |
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There are some among my crowd of progressives that think the Prez should have not compromised with the pubs. Although I disagree, I can see their point. In today's politics one must deal with the hand dealt them. I'm beginning to think we need a new term for us: "Pragmatic Progressive". Anyhow, this is the best quote I've read so fa as to what Obama could have said but didn't in his speech: "Look, I'm not thrilled with how this came together, but I was negotiating with rabid conservatives and didn't want a shutdown. If folks wanted a better outcome, voters shouldn't have elected intemperate children to run the House of Representatives. Don't blame me for your bad decisions."
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« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2011, 08:37:47 pm » |
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There are some among my crowd of progressives that think the Prez should have not compromised with the pubs.
Although I disagree, I can see their point. In today's politics one must deal with the hand dealt them. I'm beginning to think we need a new term for us: "Pragmatic Progressive".
Anyhow, this is the best quote I've read so fa as to what Obama could have said but didn't in his speech:
that sounds like something Chuck and I dream of him saying one day.. HA!
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Facts are the center. We don’t pretend that certain facts are in dispute to give the appearance of fairness to people who don’t believe them. Balance is irrelevant to me. It doesn’t have anything to do with truth, logic or reality. ~Charlie Skinner (the Newsroom)
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