Welcome to Bizarro Amerika!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr2Z04ha3Co&feature=player_embedded#!

Ron Paul  is the only one out there defending the Constitution. We have Obama and everyone but Paul running for President, saying " Hey, trust me, I won't abuse my new found powers" The govenment is already killing US citizens on foreign lands without a trial. What is wrong with a little permanant jail without a trial. I guess that is better than taking a bullet to the head.
The sad part is probaly only 1/5 of the audience even knew what the NDAA even fucking is, but know the exact number of Khardasian kids. I am convinced my country is too fucking stupid to see, the people don't have the power anymore. Actually that is not true since corporations are people, so I guess the people do have the power.

BTW throw a few choice words about terrorism and the sheep will acutually cheer their lose of freedoms. Fucking disturbing.
Rant Ovah!

did you watch it last night?  I tried but the bullshit level was well over my 5ft2 height.. and the cheering that went on for that bullshit was astonishing.. Paul  did get boo'd for talking about how we don't need to fight wars all over the damn place  though, which was kinda sad since he's right.

anyway, to go with your "corporations are people"  here is Stephen Colbert's SuperPac ad against Romney..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aix7tQMdJ3s


gotta love John Lithgow's voice..

The sad part is Paul is the only one to serve his country out of those chicken hawks on stage. He is the only one that realizes, the wars are bankrupting us, don't worry we will be bombing Iran soon.

Damn...Who would have thought Nutty would become our resident Libertarian and lilMike would become...ummm....well....I don't know?

I usually don't bother to watch webboard videos that are posted since usually they're inane and time wasters, but I didn't see the debate and I had not heard that this aspect of the debate being reported.

So suffice to say, I was extremely disappointed. Now Romney decides to be bipartisan and support Obama... on this?  And what's worse is that his answer was detailed enough that he clearly understood what was in the law and what the issue was. 

you should have heard the cheers when that was thrown out there by one of them..

I know one group supporting Paul

From the Ron Paul Newsletter, c. 1992:

Wonder if up to 1978 Romney, thought all blacks were children of Cain. I wonder what Brigham YOung would think about a black guy named Cain running for president?

That's a good point. With all the candidates throwing charges of racism at each other, why haven't any of them brought up the historic nature of Mormon racism?

how in the hell is half the stuff from Newt's past not been brought up..

"If combat means living in a ditch, females have biological problems staying in a ditch for thirty days because they get infections and they don't have upper body strength. I mean, some do, but they're relatively rare.."

I mean, wtf?

The idea that a congressman would be tainted by accepting money from private industry or private sources is essentially a socialist argument.

but my favorite is when he called people who didn't like Bush policies nazi's.. (But hey, that never happened, or so I was told)



let's not forget his stance on keeping the country safe..


I'm surprised this stuff it's out there..I can only assume that it's not because the GOP base wouldn't mind most of this stuff and would agree, but in a 'general' election it would come out.. because sane people wouldn't like this shit..

You ain't heard nothin' yet. Santorum doesn't think women are qualified to be president and good ol' Newt thinks only the blacks get foodstamps.  ::)

Where is Obama saying the same things as Ron Paul trying to protect my freedoms? Obama just says he is against that section of NDAA and take his word, he won't abuse his new found powers. I am the disappoint with the Black Bush.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KglGLXec-6E&feature=player_embedded

You're right.. I am disappointed as well.. ironically this is should be listed as to why he's 'taking over our govt' by the GOP'ers who blow that horn.. but no, they don't mean this kind of stuff, this is their red-meat, they love it and would give the gov't any power it wanted to go after 'those' people, you know the 'not me' brown/black people..(but ironically again, they claim to want gov't out of their lives, unless its to tell 'those' people how to live.. jesus, how much hypocrisy can one party live by?) But no, Obama is 'taking over this country' and 'changing what America looks like forever' because he's black, a democrat, and he dared to give healthcare to 'those' people.. go figure..

I don't know the right answer here, I don't know why he did it.. I wish the Pat Act would have never been passed since we'll never get that back.. we were all told that this what we need to make us safe and if we didn't agree than we must be on the side of terrorists.. The NDAA just preserves that 'status quo'.. just like I warned, we'll have this in our lives forever.. because we 'fear' we have been conditioned with 'terror alert levels' for years to 'fear' and while we're scared, lets just give a little more up to the gov't.. it'll be ok because we need to be safe ya know..

what I do know is that no matter the outcome of the GOP primary, Obama still getting my vote because he's still better than Mitt or Newt.. and frankly, he's more stable than Paul. And that is what it boils down to.. I might not agree with Obama 100%,but I agree with Newt Romney even less, and while Paul has my support on many issues, on others he doesn't, and in reality, he's just not capable of being in that office. So who's left? I"m not a 'single-issue' person and while I dislike this, it's not a deal-breaker..

and that's going to be Obama's biggest hurdle.. The Sullivan article was an eye-opener, we 'center-lefties' should be rejoicing more than we are.. but it's things like this that deflate us..

Very well put.
I think if it came down to Obama and any of the GOPer's, Obama would get my vote. If it came down to Obama and Paul, then I would have to think about it. All that said, I am not 100% happy with Obama and most of it boils down to kow-towing on issues of freedom.
I am also pissed that he did not introduce a bill in Congress in lowering taxes on middle class by 1% and raising the upper class(over 300k) by 1%. Get those assholes on record, catering to the 1% of our society.

Hasn't that already been done?

I visited ;D. We're so fucked it's not even funny. After what seemed like calmer heads prevailing over Iran, breaking stories this evening have brought that little hope to a crashing halt. About the nine or so newsletters in question from the late 80's or early 90's, Paul has stated that he didn't keep a close enough eye on them and accepted responsibility;it was a separate org that did the actual racist type talk.

I don't accept you're lamestream's  :P pronouncement that he's not electable. The way they are playing games with the Iowa delegates, he damn sure will be not electable. It was a statistical dead heat.

Since executive orders and stacks of proof about how the country is a corporation and we are quickly descending into neo feudalism count as the C word here, I can't speak much but I would be for Paul since he is a good person, never accepted medicare/medicaid money and has a perfect constitutional record as well as never once voting for a tax increase. I believe the structure, COG, etc...has been so usurped, so incrementally, that even if he could get in there, he would be so at odds with the 9% approval rating of congress, which the super congress makes null and void anyway...I see plumes of smoke and hell on earth in the immediate future.

Paul lost me when he, and his son both, stood by their belief that individual liberties should ultimately trump societal equality, as business and land owners saw fit, to whatever belief or extreme that entailed.  This particular Thought Experiment troubles me greatly, in that, it's assumed that organically it will manifest itself *eventually*, to be a positive in a Utopian fashion of harmony.

From the civil war forward, it took government intervention finally in the 60's to force inclusion and equality of other members of our society that had been here as long as any one else.  This wasn't just a problem in the south. The north, while more progressive and welcoming, was still also woefully lacking.  Even our gay population is just now, with government intervention, seeing some semblance of equality emerge, but are still struggling to enjoy those equality's and will for some time to come I imagine.

I like that he seemingly sees organic solutions as being positive in short order...but history and reality paint a very stark contrast to the belief.

You say it so much better than I do. This is my complaint with him. To me; ignorance of racism or hate is the same as racism and hate. Glossing it over with shouts of freedom from government intrusion doesn't help.