Why Crazy Ron Paul gets support.

[44nutman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr2Z04ha3Co&feature=player_embedded#!

Ron Paul  is the only one out there defending the Constitution. We have Obama and everyone but Paul running for President, saying " Hey, trust me, I won't abuse my new found powers" The govenment is already killing US citizens on foreign lands without a trial. What is wrong with a little permanant jail without a trial. I guess that is better than taking a bullet to the head.
The sad part is probaly only 1/5 of the audience even knew what the NDAA even fucking is, but know the exact number of Khardasian kids. I am convinced my country is too fucking stupid to see, the people don't have the power anymore. Actually that is not true since corporations are people, so I guess the people do have the power.

BTW throw a few choice words about terrorism and the sheep will acutually cheer their lose of freedoms. Fucking disturbing.
Rant Ovah!

[ekg]

did you watch it last night?  I tried but the bullshit level was well over my 5ft2 height.. and the cheering that went on for that bullshit was astonishing.. Paul  did get boo'd for talking about how we don't need to fight wars all over the damn place  though, which was kinda sad since he's right.

anyway, to go with your "corporations are people"  here is Stephen Colbert's SuperPac ad against Romney..




gotta love John Lithgow's voice..

[44nutman]

did you watch it last night?  I tried but the bullshit level was well over my 5ft2 height.. and the cheering that went on for that bullshit was astonishing.. Paul  did get boo'd for talking about how we don't need to fight wars all over the damn place  though, which was kinda sad since he's right.

The sad part is Paul is the only one to serve his country out of those chicken hawks on stage. He is the only one that realizes, the wars are bankrupting us, don't worry we will be bombing Iran soon.

[Howey]

The sad part is Paul is the only one to serve his country out of those chicken hawks on stage. He is the only one that realizes, the wars are bankrupting us, don't worry we will be bombing Iran soon.

Damn...Who would have thought Nutty would become our resident Libertarian and lilMike would become...ummm....well....I don't know?

[lil mike]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr2Z04ha3Co&feature=player_embedded#!

Ron Paul  is the only one out there defending the Constitution. We have Obama and everyone but Paul running for President, saying " Hey, trust me, I won't abuse my new found powers" The govenment is already killing US citizens on foreign lands without a trial. What is wrong with a little permanant jail without a trial. I guess that is better than taking a bullet to the head.
The sad part is probaly only 1/5 of the audience even knew what the NDAA even fucking is, but know the exact number of Khardasian kids. I am convinced my country is too fucking stupid to see, the people don't have the power anymore. Actually that is not true since corporations are people, so I guess the people do have the power.

BTW throw a few choice words about terrorism and the sheep will acutually cheer their lose of freedoms. Fucking disturbing.
Rant Ovah!

I usually don't bother to watch webboard videos that are posted since usually they're inane and time wasters, but I didn't see the debate and I had not heard that this aspect of the debate being reported.

So suffice to say, I was extremely disappointed. Now Romney decides to be bipartisan and support Obama... on this?  And what's worse is that his answer was detailed enough that he clearly understood what was in the law and what the issue was. 

[ekg]

The sad part is Paul is the only one to serve his country out of those chicken hawks on stage. He is the only one that realizes, the wars are bankrupting us, don't worry we will be bombing Iran soon.

you should have heard the cheers when that was thrown out there by one of them..

[Howey]

I know one group supporting Paul

From the Ron Paul Newsletter, c. 1992:

"We don't think a child of 13 should be held as responsible as a man of 23. That's true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult, and should be treated as such."

[44nutman]

I know one group supporting Paul

From the Ron Paul Newsletter, c. 1992:

Wonder if up to 1978 Romney, thought all blacks were children of Cain. I wonder what Brigham YOung would think about a black guy named Cain running for president?

[Howey]

Wonder if up to 1978 Romney, thought all blacks were children of Cain. I wonder what Brigham YOung would think about a black guy named Cain running for president?

That's a good point. With all the candidates throwing charges of racism at each other, why haven't any of them brought up the historic nature of Mormon racism?

[ekg]

how in the hell is half the stuff from Newt's past not been brought up..

"If combat means living in a ditch, females have biological problems staying in a ditch for thirty days because they get infections and they don't have upper body strength. I mean, some do, but they're relatively rare.."

I mean, wtf?

The idea that a congressman would be tainted by accepting money from private industry or private sources is essentially a socialist argument.

but my favorite is when he called people who didn't like Bush policies nazi's.. (But hey, that never happened, or so I was told)

   Alan Colmes: You're calling "appeasers" people who disagree with the Bush policy administration —

    Gingrich: Look—
    Colmes: — comparing them to those who enabled Hitler?
    Gingrich: Yes.
    Colmes: That's an astounding comment —
    Gingrich: What's your — what's your — why? Why is it astounding?
    Colmes: — that's a very insulting comment —
    Gingrich: It's not an insulting comment.

        Hannity & Colmes, Fox News, 1 September 2006

let's not forget his stance on keeping the country safe..

This is, by the way, the great— one of the great tragedies of the Bush administration. The more successful they've been at intercepting and stopping bad guys, the less proof there is that we're in danger, and therefore, the better they've done at making sure there isn't an attack, the easier it is to say "well, there was never gonna be an attack anyway". And it's almost like they should every once in a while have allowed an attack to get through just to remind us.

I'm surprised this stuff it's out there..I can only assume that it's not because the GOP base wouldn't mind most of this stuff and would agree, but in a 'general' election it would come out.. because sane people wouldn't like this shit..

[Howey]

You ain't heard nothin' yet. Santorum doesn't think women are qualified to be president and good ol' Newt thinks only the blacks get foodstamps. 

[44nutman]

Where is Obama saying the same things as Ron Paul trying to protect my freedoms? Obama just says he is against that section of NDAA and take his word, he won't abuse his new found powers. I am the disappoint with the Black Bush.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KglGLXec-6E&feature=player_embedded

[ekg]

Where is Obama saying the same things as Ron Paul trying to protect my freedoms? Obama just says he is against that section of NDAA and take his word, he won't abuse his new found powers. I am the disappoint with the Black Bush.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KglGLXec-6E&feature=player_embedded

You're right.. I am disappointed as well.. ironically this is should be listed as to why he's 'taking over our govt' by the GOP'ers who blow that horn.. but no, they don't mean this kind of stuff, this is their red-meat, they love it and would give the gov't any power it wanted to go after 'those' people, you know the 'not me' brown/black people..(but ironically again, they claim to want gov't out of their lives, unless its to tell 'those' people how to live.. jesus, how much hypocrisy can one party live by?) But no, Obama is 'taking over this country' and 'changing what America looks like forever' because he's black, a democrat, and he dared to give healthcare to 'those' people.. go figure..

I don't know the right answer here, I don't know why he did it.. I wish the Pat Act would have never been passed since we'll never get that back.. we were all told that this what we need to make us safe and if we didn't agree than we must be on the side of terrorists.. The NDAA just preserves that 'status quo'.. just like I warned, we'll have this in our lives forever.. because we 'fear' we have been conditioned with 'terror alert levels' for years to 'fear' and while we're scared, lets just give a little more up to the gov't.. it'll be ok because we need to be safe ya know..

what I do know is that no matter the outcome of the GOP primary, Obama still getting my vote because he's still better than Mitt or Newt.. and frankly, he's more stable than Paul. And that is what it boils down to.. I might not agree with Obama 100%,but I agree with Newt Romney even less, and while Paul has my support on many issues, on others he doesn't, and in reality, he's just not capable of being in that office. So who's left? I"m not a 'single-issue' person and while I dislike this, it's not a deal-breaker..

and that's going to be Obama's biggest hurdle.. The Sullivan article was an eye-opener, we 'center-lefties' should be rejoicing more than we are.. but it's things like this that deflate us..

[44nutman]

You're right.. I am disappointed as well.. ironically this is should be listed as to why he's 'taking over our govt' by the GOP'ers who blow that horn.. but no, they don't mean this kind of stuff, this is their red-meat, they love it and would give the gov't any power it wanted to go after 'those' people, you know the 'not me' brown/black people..(but ironically again, they claim to want gov't out of their lives, unless its to tell 'those' people how to live.. jesus, how much hypocrisy can one party live by?) But no, Obama is 'taking over this country' and 'changing what America looks like forever' because he's black, a democrat, and he dared to give healthcare to 'those' people.. go figure..

I don't know the right answer here, I don't know why he did it.. I wish the Pat Act would have never been passed since we'll never get that back.. we were all told that this what we need to make us safe and if we didn't agree than we must be on the side of terrorists.. The NDAA just preserves that 'status quo'.. just like I warned, we'll have this in our lives forever.. because we 'fear' we have been conditioned with 'terror alert levels' for years to 'fear' and while we're scared, lets just give a little more up to the gov't.. it'll be ok because we need to be safe ya know..

what I do know is that no matter the outcome of the GOP primary, Obama still getting my vote because he's still better than Mitt or Newt.. and frankly, he's more stable than Paul. And that is what it boils down to.. I might not agree with Obama 100%,but I agree with Newt Romney even less, and while Paul has my support on many issues, on others he doesn't, and in reality, he's just not capable of being in that office. So who's left? I"m not a 'single-issue' person and while I dislike this, it's not a deal-breaker..

and that's going to be Obama's biggest hurdle.. The Sullivan article was an eye-opener, we 'center-lefties' should be rejoicing more than we are.. but it's things like this that deflate us..

Very well put.
I think if it came down to Obama and any of the GOPer's, Obama would get my vote. If it came down to Obama and Paul, then I would have to think about it. All that said, I am not 100% happy with Obama and most of it boils down to kow-towing on issues of freedom.
I am also pissed that he did not introduce a bill in Congress in lowering taxes on middle class by 1% and raising the upper class(over 300k) by 1%. Get those assholes on record, catering to the 1% of our society.

[Howey]

Very well put.
Get those assholes on record, catering to the 1% of our society.

Hasn't that already been done?