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Title: Romney's Tax Return Post by: Howey on January 24, 2012, 09:41:52 am (http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/2213/greedu.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/808/greedu.jpg/)
Wow. Talk about elite! For a guy who bragged about being "unemployed" he sure has brought in the bucks for doing nothing! How about the Swiss bank account? Caymans? Ireland? and more? Know what's even funnier? Republicans have a choice between Mittens and the guy who can't pay his exorbitant bill at the jewelers. ::) Title: Re: Romney's Tax Return Post by: 44nutman on January 24, 2012, 09:55:04 am (http://www.redstate.com/streiff/files/2011/11/Bain.jpg)
Title: Re: Romney's Tax Return Post by: Howey on January 24, 2012, 10:17:38 am http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2012/01/24/us/24reuters-usa-campaign-romney-taxes.html?_r=2&hp
Quote The Caymans holdings and holdings in a Swiss bank account - which was closed in 2010 after an adviser decided it could be politically embarrassing to Romney - were reported on tax returns and were not vehicles to avoid taxes, the advisers said. ya think? Title: Re: Romney's Tax Return Post by: Howey on January 24, 2012, 10:32:06 am The State of the Union tonight should be Must See TV! (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/what-timing-on-day-of-obamas-big-inequality-speech-romney-reveals-massive-income-low-tax-rates/2012/01/24/gIQALWUENQ_blog.html)
Quote I’m not sure the Obama campaign could have scripted this more perfectly. In a remarkable bit of good timing, President Obama is set to deliver a State of the Union speech focused on income inequality and tax unfairness on exactly the same day that Mitt Romney will reveal that he made over $40 million in the last two years — all of it taxed at a lower rate than that paid by middle class taxpayers. […] Romney doesn’t just disagree with Obama on these fundamental issues; he personally symbolizes virtually the entire 2012 Democratic message. He is the walking embodiment of everything Dems allege is wrong with our system and the ways it’s rigged in favor of the wealthy and against the middle class. Yet this is the standard bearer the GOP seems set to pick. Title: Re: Romney's Tax Return Post by: Howey on January 24, 2012, 11:17:53 am (http://www.redstate.com/streiff/files/2011/11/Bain.jpg) Ya know...he was kinda cute back then in a Darren Criss way. hmmmm...I wonder? Title: Re: Romney's Tax Return Post by: lil mike on January 24, 2012, 06:09:41 pm Remember when the Democratic base was upset that John Kerry has a 13.1 effective tax rate?
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/01/john-kerry-actually-had-lower-tax-rate-romney/47802/ (http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/01/john-kerry-actually-had-lower-tax-rate-romney/47802/) Me either! Title: Re: Romney's Tax Return Post by: Howey on January 24, 2012, 06:39:06 pm Remember when the Democratic base was upset that John Kerry has a 13.1 effective tax rate? http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/01/john-kerry-actually-had-lower-tax-rate-romney/47802/ (http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/01/john-kerry-actually-had-lower-tax-rate-romney/47802/) Me either! No, I don't. Quote On his own, Kerry's tax rate is 22.9 percent Title: Re: Romney's Tax Return Post by: 44nutman on January 25, 2012, 09:45:34 am Remember when the Democratic base was upset that John Kerry has a 13.1 effective tax rate? Kerry was a buffoon and that was the least of most Democrats worries. http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/01/john-kerry-actually-had-lower-tax-rate-romney/47802/ (http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/01/john-kerry-actually-had-lower-tax-rate-romney/47802/) Me either! I will say this though, the swiftboating of him was disgusting. Title: Re: Romney's Tax Return Post by: Howey on January 25, 2012, 12:48:39 pm Kerry was a buffoon and that was the least of most Democrats worries. I will say this though, the swiftboating of him was disgusting. Didja see him last night. Looked like Newt suckerpunched him. Anyhow...back on topic: What's Mittens hiding? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prt50o-6yi4&feature=player_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAR6SWhbnQ8&feature=player_embedded Title: Re: Romney's Tax Return Post by: uselesslegs on January 25, 2012, 01:46:32 pm Romney is fucked. Most Americans really don't give a shit that he's a millionaire many times over. They like to dream (and many aspire to) one day reach those type of numbers. Hell, from those specific returns, it even looks like he was more charitable than the Obama's...
...BUT...those returns were the embodiment of a major discourse taking place. Are we a society that provides the instruments and the means to enrich others, that in turn benefits the society locally and at large...or are we a society that that provides the instruments and the means to enrich others who make little or no effort to re-infuse that good fortune back into the local or national community where it was derived. Because as far as I know, that shit didn't come from thin air. It's like Jenga. Instead of putting pieces back as one is taken out, you literally destabilize the foundation and like the game...eventually that shit crashes. What good does making money, off of money, do for society? It's stability? What good does it do to allow people to build incredibly vast sums of wealth if society in general suffers as a result? You can make 500 million dollars off of a hedge fund, a year, and pay 15 percent on capital gains. That is the epitome of the biggest FUCK YOU to the society that made your wealth possible I can think of. Everyone keeps acting like they made all their shit entirely on their own and as far as I know, the society where you derived it, made it possible through it's structure and resources in various ways. Remove both and you don't have anyone to pay for your shit or facilitate your ideas/work. So what's the big idea? We'll shrink Government, which sounds great on the face of it, until you get into the details. Who needs the fuckin EPA, who needs SS, who needs Medicare/Medicade, on and on and on. I got my shit, fuck you. I don't give a fuck HOW wealthy this society made me, the rest of you can suck it. Yea, I used foodstamps once. Yea, I used unemployment once. Yea, I used assistance once. But I'm in the big leagues now, so lick my hairy balls! You know who I create work for, my bankers and my investment guy, I'm a job creator baby, hahahaha, WOOT! Title: Re: Romney's Tax Return Post by: ekg on January 25, 2012, 02:39:03 pm Romney is fucked. Most Americans really don't give a shit that he's a millionaire many times over. They like to dream (and many aspire to) one day reach those type of numbers. Hell, from those specific returns, it even looks like he was more charitable than the Obama's... ...BUT...those returns were the embodiment of a major discourse taking place. Are we a society that provides the instruments and the means to enrich others, that in turn benefits the society locally and at large...or are we a society that that provides the instruments and the means to enrich others who make little or no effort to re-infuse that good fortune back into the local or national community where it was derived. Because as far as I know, that shit didn't come from thin air. It's like Jenga. Instead of putting pieces back as one is taken out, you literally destabilize the foundation and like the game...eventually that shit crashes. What good does making money, off of money, do for society? It's stability? What good does it do to allow people to build incredibly vast sums of wealth if society in general suffers as a result? You can make 500 million dollars off of a hedge fund, a year, and pay 15 percent on capital gains. That is the epitome of the biggest FUCK YOU to the society that made your wealth possible I can think of. Everyone keeps acting like they made all their shit entirely on their own and as far as I know, the society where you derived it, made it possible through it's structure and resources in various ways. Remove both and you don't have anyone to pay for your shit or facilitate your ideas/work. So what's the big idea? We'll shrink Government, which sounds great on the face of it, until you get into the details. Who needs the fuckin EPA, who needs SS, who needs Medicare/Medicade, on and on and on. I got my shit, fuck you. I don't give a fuck HOW wealthy this society made me, the rest of you can suck it. Yea, I used foodstamps once. Yea, I used unemployment once. Yea, I used assistance once. But I'm in the big leagues now, so lick my hairy balls! You know who I create work for, my bankers and my investment guy, I'm a job creator baby, hahahaha, WOOT! this is why I love you :-* Title: Re: Romney's Tax Return Post by: lil mike on January 25, 2012, 06:12:36 pm No, I don't. Quote On his own, Kerry's tax rate is 22.9 percent He and his wife filed separately at least in 2003 (maybe other years) because of the Presidential race to keep her fortune off the books. It became a political issue anyway, but Kerry's separate return was just taxes paid on his Senate salary and a few other things, with no mention of the fact that he was a millionaire and wasn't taxed as such, since of course all he had to do that year was realize capital gains from his wife's investments not his. If you don't realize anything, your effective tax rate could be zero. But combined they had an effective tax rate below the 15% capital gains tax! That's amazing! Those crazy one percenters... Title: Re: Romney's Tax Return Post by: Howey on January 25, 2012, 06:20:02 pm He and his wife filed separately at least in 2003 (maybe other years) because of the Presidential race to keep her fortune off the books. It became a political issue anyway, but Kerry's separate return was just taxes paid on his Senate salary and a few other things, with no mention of the fact that he was a millionaire and wasn't taxed as such, since of course all he had to do that year was realize capital gains from his wife's investments not his. If you don't realize anything, your effective tax rate could be zero. But combined they had an effective tax rate below the 15% capital gains tax! That's amazing! Those crazy one percenters... I think you and.your comrades just don't understand the gripe isn't with the money, it's the greed that goes with it, as well as.compassion for those less fortunate. Incredible that you would fault Teresa Heinz her millions through inheritance but defend the guy who got off on firing people. Title: Re: Romney's Tax Return Post by: lil mike on January 25, 2012, 06:44:39 pm I think you and.your comrades just don't understand the gripe isn't with the money, it's the greed that goes with it, as well as.compassion for those less fortunate. Incredible that you would fault Teresa Heinz her millions through inheritance but defend the guy who got off on firing people. I don't fault her millions. Frankly I'm not sure how you got that idea. Sometimes I think you read things in my posts that I don't write. But as you said, she inherited it. Why do you find that better than the guy who actually earned his? Title: Re: Romney's Tax Return Post by: Howey on January 26, 2012, 09:39:54 am Why do you find that better than the guy who actually earned his? Romney earned it? By firing people. I respect Heinz because, unlike Mittens, she recognizes what the word compassion (http://www.heinzfamily.org/aboutus/teresaheinz_01.html) is. Quote Today, the foundations she oversees are widely known for developing innovative strategies to protect the environment, improve education, enhance the lives of young children, broaden economic opportunity and promote the arts. Pittsburgh civic leaders have repeatedly praised Teresa Heinz for her many contributions to the city and to western Pennsylvania. The Heinz Endowments, based in Pittsburgh, is among the largest independent philanthropic organizations in America. Last year, the foundation approved more than $70 million in grants to non-profit organizations, mostly concentrated within southwestern Pennsylvania, in the program areas of Arts & Culture; Children, Youth and Families; Economic Opportunity; Education; and the Environment. Do you really think Romney wouldn't have given the Mormon church all those millions if he didn't have to? Of course, he could have wanted to in support of their homophobia campaign. ::) Title: Re: Romney's Tax Return Post by: lil mike on January 26, 2012, 07:28:59 pm Romney earned it? By firing people. I respect Heinz because, unlike Mittens, she recognizes what the word compassion (http://www.heinzfamily.org/aboutus/teresaheinz_01.html) is. Do you really think Romney wouldn't have given the Mormon church all those millions if he didn't have to? Of course, he could have wanted to in support of their homophobia campaign. ::) So... you are for or against tithing? Title: Re: Romney's Tax Return Post by: Howey on January 26, 2012, 07:41:25 pm So... you are for or against tithing? Me? I don't care. I'm glad to see it's one type of mandate all these Republican Mormon's don't mind. Well, with Mittens, I guess that's two. ;) Title: Re: Romney's Tax Return Post by: Howey on January 31, 2012, 08:40:12 am So... you are for or against tithing? I remember reading the other day about how generous Mitt is when it was revealed that he gave 10% of his blood money to the church. It was all over the right wing websites. Of course, there was no mention of this: (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/29/sunday-review/religions-inspire-charity.html?_r=3) Quote President Obama, a Protestant whose most recent church membership was a mainline congregation, Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, gave relatively little to charity a decade ago, but steadily increased his giving as he became more prominent and donated 14 percent of his income in 2010 Title: Re: Romney's Tax Return Post by: lil mike on January 31, 2012, 08:26:59 pm I remember reading the other day about how generous Mitt is when it was revealed that he gave 10% of his blood money to the church. It was all over the right wing websites. Of course, there was no mention of this: (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/29/sunday-review/religions-inspire-charity.html?_r=3) No mention that "President Obama, a Protestant whose most recent church membership was a mainline congregation, Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, gave relatively little to charity a decade ago, but steadily increased his giving as he became more prominent and donated 14 percent of his income in 2010?" So you don't think that enough attention has been paid to the fact that Obama donated very little to charity until he became a national public figure? Title: Re: Romney's Tax Return Post by: Howey on January 31, 2012, 09:40:16 pm No mention that "President Obama, a Protestant whose most recent church membership was a mainline congregation, Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, gave relatively little to charity a decade ago, but steadily increased his giving as he became more prominent and donated 14 percent of his income in 2010?" So you don't think that enough attention has been paid to the fact that Obama donated very little to charity until he became a national public figure? If Mittens hadn't been groomed by the church to do it, don't you think his greedy ass wouldn't have? I suspect Obama's increase was due more to the added income from his book. As opposed to a MANDATE (see what I did there?) from a church. Title: Re: Romney's Tax Return Post by: ekg on January 31, 2012, 09:40:35 pm No mention that "President Obama, a Protestant whose most recent church membership was a mainline congregation, Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, gave relatively little to charity a decade ago, but steadily increased his giving as he became more prominent and donated 14 percent of his income in 2010?" So you don't think that enough attention has been paid to the fact that Obama donated very little to charity until he became a national public figure? does it say how much he donated per his income... IRC he wasn't making millions for awhile there..so what was his donations vs his pre-book income.. in 2000 they were making $240,505 but I don't know how much they donated.. in 2006 they made 900,000+ and they donated $60,307 to charities, or about 6 percent of their gross income. in 2005 they donate $5000, but thats also the year he got the book money and they bought their house.. I guess the 'relatively' in that "relatively little' means relative to Mitt giving $millions.. well the Obama didn't have millions and when they did, they increased their donation to 14%... kinda like the article says.. he always donated what he could and when he started to make more money, he started to donate more.. so the problem you have with this what Mike? Title: Re: Romney's Tax Return Post by: Howey on January 31, 2012, 09:43:30 pm He's got a problem with it because it wasn't a MANDATE of Obama's church. Der...
Title: Re: Romney's Tax Return Post by: lil mike on February 01, 2012, 06:54:47 pm If Mittens hadn't been groomed by the church to do it, don't you think his greedy ass wouldn't have? I suspect Obama's increase was due more to the added income from his book. As opposed to a MANDATE (see what I did there?) from a church. I did see what you did there, I just didn't think it was that clever. Most Christian denominations also have a mandate to tithe. So I don't see what your point is supposed to be. Anyway the article gives percentages of income, not dollar amounts, so Obama could just as easily give 14% 20 years ago, regardless of his income. But I think usually with politicians they only contribute to charity or what have you when they know the amount is going to be disclosed. Then they go from selfish cheapskates to generous benefactors, like Kerry and Biden. Or Obama. Title: Re: Romney's Tax Return Post by: ekg on February 01, 2012, 09:42:40 pm I did see what you did there, I just didn't think it was that clever. Most Christian denominations also have a mandate to tithe. So I don't see what your point is supposed to be. Anyway the article gives percentages of income, not dollar amounts, so Obama could just as easily give 14% 20 years ago, regardless of his income. But I think usually with politicians they only contribute to charity or what have you when they know the amount is going to be disclosed. Then they go from selfish cheapskates to generous benefactors, like Kerry and Biden. Or Obama. how do you figure.. if he was making 100,000 a year 20 years ago.. it's a hell of alot harder to give 14%/$14,000.. but when you start to make more money and can breath a little easier, then you can donate more.. I mean, that's not even hard to figure out.. the degree you will go to to insult Obama is unlimited isn't it.. wow... Title: Re: Romney's Tax Return Post by: Howey on February 01, 2012, 10:06:21 pm how do you figure.. if he was making 100,000 a year 20 years ago.. it's a hell of alot harder to give 14%/$14,000.. but when you start to make more money and can breath a little easier, then you can donate more.. I mean, that's not even hard to figure out.. the degree you will go to to insult Obama is unlimited isn't it.. wow... Someday, maybe, he'll tell us exactly why he hates Obama. Other than the obvious reason, of course. Title: Re: Romney's Tax Return Post by: ekg on February 01, 2012, 10:18:02 pm Someday, maybe, he'll tell us exactly why he hates Obama. Other than the obvious reason, of course. Oh, I don't think 'black' has anything to do with it... I think it's just the (D) after his name.. he's bought into the Marxist,America-apologizing,gun-taking,weak-kneed, socialist boogey man his party has invented.. Title: Re: Romney's Tax Return Post by: uselesslegs on February 02, 2012, 12:22:08 am If this is what's brought to the surface (not just here, but all over the net) when a man Named Barrack Hussein Obama becomes President...I say we go for the full monty and see what else we can dig up under Americas belly by making our next two Presidents (after Obama's second term) an openly gay person and a woman.
Lets see if this fucker pops! Title: Re: Romney's Tax Return Post by: ekg on February 02, 2012, 01:12:33 pm If this is what's brought to the surface (not just here, but all over the net) when a man Named Barrack Hussein Obama becomes President...I say we go for the full monty and see what else we can dig up under Americas belly by making our next two Presidents (after Obama's second term) an openly gay person and a woman. Lets see if this fucker pops! HA! Hoofa! Holy crap, please baby Jesus.... *and conservatives say liberal don't pray* ;) |