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Title: gas Post by: ekg on February 25, 2011, 09:05:06 pm So on Monday I decided to get $45 in gas, just because..usually I get $20 and then by Thursday I get another $15..it was $3.09 a gallon. I had been $3.12 a cpl days before so it went down, and I figured it was going to go up so I got more than I usually get..
last night I went out and saw gas was at $3.19 a gallon and patted myself on the back for being smarter than the average bear on Monday.. ;D tonight I went out and gas is $3.48 wtf? holy shit... :o that $45 I put in isn't going to last me long enough... HA! (eeek) this is going to hurt... a lot. Title: Re: gas Post by: Howey on February 25, 2011, 09:12:28 pm So on Monday I decided to get $45 in gas, just because..usually I get $20 and then by Thursday I get another $15..it was $3.09 a gallon. I had been $3.12 a cpl days before so it went down, and I figured it was going to go up so I got more than I usually get.. last night I went out and saw gas was at $3.19 a gallon and patted myself on the back for being smarter than the average bear on Monday.. ;D tonight I went out and gas is $3.48 wtf? holy shit... :o that $45 I put in isn't going to last me long enough... HA! (eeek) this is going to hurt... a lot. I was watching the news about Libya (Sun?) and ran out and filled up the Sube at Murphy. $3.08 gallon. Me be smart. Title: Re: gas Post by: betteroffhere on February 25, 2011, 09:17:57 pm hold on tight...
the idea is to get the barrel up to 200.00 crash the dollar by the end of twenty 12... default on the agreement with opec... open up america's oil reserves and start drilling baby... the powers that be...have had this plan since kissenger brokered the deals... the time is near...china brokered a deal with russia for oil supply...leaving the middle east and that put eourpe in a bind...which only works as long as the price of a barrel stays above 140.00 anything below fucks russia's production profits...its a system built with twidley winks and lego's and built in fail safes.... start growing your garden now...cause when the price of fuel hits five a gallon the cost of food is going to crushing...there will be plenty of food on the shelves but affording it will be the challenge... i could be wrong though... Title: Re: gas Post by: ekg on February 25, 2011, 09:57:54 pm start growing your garden now...cause when the price of fuel hits five a gallon the cost of food is going to crushing...there will be plenty of food on the shelves but affording it will be the challenge... i could be wrong though... Ha, I think that's about the right-est thing you said.. and it doesn't have to be $5 a gallon to make food costs crushing.. this little uplift here will hurt, the next, in a cpl days will kill.. crushing will soon follow and all that before it gets to that $5 mark.. remember, Egypt started because of food price.. Gaddafi today said he'd give people $400 to buy food if they'd just go home.. the world food bank has been screaming for many a moon at the overprice of food.. lack of supplies and all the starvation going on.. and just think when all that snow from the massive snow storms we had this year melts? and we get all the floods?.. we're talking $5 for a single apple... -1 in 4 is on food stamps -countless children only eat once a day, and that's at school.. those are closing for summer soon.. if they don't close due to budget crisis.. -due to budget crisis, we have to cut food stamps and heating oil subsidies.. how will people make up for that when they still have to eat, even though there is no food stamps to buy with AND apples are $7 each? -due to budget crisis we need to stop footing the bill for the lazy on unemployment ::) ... when grocers can't sell their wares anymore because shipping costs are too much and they've raised everything to unattainable for all but the Rockefeller, what are those lazy,non-working people going to do without the UI check or the food stamps? and how will their kids eat when there is no school in session? mayhem is coming... the good news is the top 1% got their tax cut so they should be sending us jobs in 3....2.....1........ Title: Re: gas Post by: betteroffhere on February 25, 2011, 11:00:18 pm remember, Egypt ... Gaddafi mayhem is coming... in 2012...maybe sooner...by design a design i'm afraid we as people won't gain control of soon enough.... the game has started and the rules are hidden... the powers that be are in the process of making an omelette...and the eggs are being cracked or the illusion is being presented to us via the news services selectively... what we are being told and are seeing happen in video is not always and most often not the truth... i beleive its montsanto,blackwater and haliburton not to mention the c i a owned google and anderson cooper who are orchestrating this supposite uprising. Title: Re: gas Post by: Howey on February 26, 2011, 09:51:31 am the good news is the top 1% got their tax cut so they should be sending us jobs in 3....2.....1........ YOU ARE DELUSIONAL! ;D Title: Re: gas Post by: ekg on February 26, 2011, 11:55:01 am 2012...maybe sooner...by design a design i'm afraid we as people won't gain control of soon enough.... the game has started and the rules are hidden... the powers that be are in the process of making an omelette...and the eggs are being cracked or the illusion is being presented to us via the news services selectively... what we are being told and are seeing happen in video is not always and most often not the truth... i beleive its montsanto,blackwater and haliburton not to mention the c i a owned google and anderson cooper who are orchestrating this supposite uprising. watch it buddy! Mo or no, I <3 Cooper! (http://towleroad.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/anderson_cooper.jpg) Title: Re: gas Post by: Howey on February 26, 2011, 12:11:13 pm watch it buddy! Mo or no, I <3 Cooper! (http://towleroad.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/anderson_cooper.jpg) LYMI and all that Anderson, but you ain't no Richard Engel! (http://i.iimmgg.com/images/is5th/324bc87769ab2cd62292c6ff081426e9.jpg) (http://www.iimmgg.com/image/d4521b2025bb74375d989febf200019c) Title: Re: gas Post by: ekg on February 26, 2011, 08:51:38 pm LYMI and all that Anderson, but you ain't no Richard Engel! (http://i.iimmgg.com/images/is5th/324bc87769ab2cd62292c6ff081426e9.jpg) (http://www.iimmgg.com/image/d4521b2025bb74375d989febf200019c) I know... Andy's better (http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTY9vpSncg3-QukDa8ZjkaWysOTG1Exr6GDI-sQI6CvOh1Rjk7cRg) (http://www.janetcharltonshollywood.com/images/2010/03/andersonp.ft_.ins7ADCB81.jpg) you can't tell me that if Engel was interviewing you, and that ^ walked by you wouldn't turn in mid sentence and follow.. (http://www.janetcharltonshollywood.com/images/2009/07/daf039e0-8b76-40anders.jpeg) I wish for another hurricane every summer just so he can come back to the beach across from my house again ;D Title: Re: gas Post by: Howey on February 27, 2011, 10:03:48 am I know... Andy's better turn in mid sentence and follow.. (http://www.janetcharltonshollywood.com/images/2009/07/daf039e0-8b76-40anders.jpeg) huh? what?? You win.... Title: Re: gas Post by: FooFa on February 27, 2011, 06:14:58 pm I've heard good arguments elsewhere on Peak Oil. If it means that the lack of systems keeping up with demand combined with the ever increasing demand are already in the blender;to that you have the knowledge that the end of the supply is in the binoculars. I believe that's an accurate assessment which will soon leave American's addiction to cheap oil to be a very hard cold turkey on the back's of the majority who are doing good to keep the electric bill paid on time. All media has told us about some sort of food crisis soon and if you avail yourself to available video documentation, UN Props and non corporate funded media outlets, it's clear that a major crisis is coming with an awful lot of foreknowledge.
Title: Re: gas Post by: Howey on February 28, 2011, 10:00:25 am Title: Re: gas Post by: betteroffhere on February 28, 2011, 04:30:04 pm DRILL BABY DRILL! ::) we will...we have too... but not until...the timing is right and it is close... a little more tweeking of the distabilization in the middle east...and it will be on... and...if the price of gas stays above four dollars a gallon... altenative energy becomes profitable...yay...for a minute, till they tank the price after we open our oil fields... this is the best rollercoaster ride ever.... Title: Re: gas Post by: Howey on February 28, 2011, 04:40:26 pm we will...we have too... but not until...the timing is right and it is close... a little more tweeking of the distabilization in the middle east...and it will be on... and...if the price of gas stays above four dollars a gallon... altenative energy becomes profitable...yay...for a minute, till they tank the price after we open our oil fields... this is the best rollercoaster ride ever.... a. It'll be years before any oil we drill is available. b. Our supplies, current and future, are incapable of handling our insatiable thirst. Title: Re: gas Post by: ekg on February 28, 2011, 04:55:09 pm we will...we have too... but not until...the timing is right and it is close... a little more tweeking of the distabilization in the middle east...and it will be on... and...if the price of gas stays above four dollars a gallon... altenative energy becomes profitable...yay...for a minute, till they tank the price after we open our oil fields... this is the best rollercoaster ride ever.... yes, we will have to drill.. sad, but what choice will we have? We don't have an alternative that the public will accept. Wind, Solar,Bio diesel,natty gas... we've been led to believe they are all to expensive.. well duh, of course they are. Because we aren't geared towards them.. and the turn to them will cost and cost a lot. There are some many new 'green' homes being made with wind and solar.. and what they don't use they give to the local grid.. that house over here that Extreme Makeover just did, has cool new design solar/wind turbine on the roof, it will power the house most of the day and for part of the night they will need to use 'grid' power.. BUT what it produced during the day, is so much and they dump it into the grid for 'credit' that at the end of the month.. even using the grid, they come out ahead and owing nothing to power everything in the 10,000 sqft house.. now, if they can be debt neutral on a h ouse that size.. regular size homes can actual benefit communities all together if each house had the same hook-up and amenities .. imagine, you have all those extra credit power-points, you can 'sell' them to a hospital or some other large building that needs more power than you, and you use less than what your system produces.. but nope, the start up costs are too much and oil is soooo cheap.. so let's just pretend the Oil God will make more and this is all just a bad dream.. Title: Re: gas Post by: Howey on February 28, 2011, 05:06:22 pm Wind, Solar,Bio diesel,natty gas... we've been led to believe they are all to expensive.. well duh, of course they are. Cars used to be expensive too. So were horses and wagons before that. Electricity used to be more expensive than now. Coal heating was a luxury. Title: Re: gas Post by: betteroffhere on February 28, 2011, 05:54:30 pm a. It'll be years before any oil we drill is available. b. Our supplies, current and future, are incapable of handling our insatiable thirst. a....not if we are sitting on a shit load of light sweet crude b....we have more than enough to sustain ourselves...unless you are one of those who beleive its dino debri...and the supply is limited. now...the maufacturers of the world's goods...they'll have a problem...but thats not us, anymore...is it...haha histories mysteries aren't that mysterious if you pay attention... Title: Re: gas Post by: FooFa on February 28, 2011, 06:02:14 pm Also electric cars and such could have been developed with much more enthusiasm but the oil companies bought up all the patents on the batteries. I saw in a documentary that the same principle that shoots the canister to the bank teller can be used for high speed travel such as a long lunch break from LA to NYC but again there's obviously too much strong arming for non oil based ideas and technology. Solar powered homes, I'm glad are getting more practical and affordable.
Title: Re: gas Post by: FooFa on February 28, 2011, 06:10:23 pm a....not if we are sitting on a shit load of light sweet crude b....we have more than enough to sustain ourselves...unless you are one of those who beleive its dino debri...and the supply is limited. now...the maufacturers of the world's goods...they'll have a problem...but thats not us, anymore...is it...haha histories mysteries aren't that mysterious if you pay attention... It has nothing to do with belief about the supply. Again, common sense tell's you that there is a limit to any natural resource and that's what has brought several civilizations to their end. Title: Re: gas Post by: Howey on February 28, 2011, 06:19:40 pm Also electric cars and such could have been developed with much more enthusiasm but the oil companies bought up all the patents on the batteries. I saw in a documentary that the same principle that shoots the canister to the bank teller can be used for high speed travel such as a long lunch break from LA to NYC but again there's obviously too much strong arming for non oil based ideas and technology. Solar powered homes, I'm glad are getting more practical and affordable. Please, Matt...what you're saying is partially true and partially not true. What's wrong with oil companies investing in future technologies? Nothing. You're referring to Chevron buying the patents to NiMh batteries, which a. gave them tons of research opportunities, and b. the patents expire in two years. Chevron, believe it or not, is at the forefront of alternative energy research: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJZgGb_8pQw Title: Re: gas Post by: FooFa on February 28, 2011, 08:37:06 pm Please, Matt...what you're saying is partially true and partially not true. What's wrong with oil companies investing in future technologies? Nothing. You're referring to Chevron buying the patents to NiMh batteries, which a. gave them tons of research opportunities, and b. the patents expire in two years. I'm all for them doing that but it's largely too little too late as I see it. My frustration with oil has more to do with the environmental disasters even aside from the gulf. Man's preoccupation with profit over people's lives is the bottom line, which for me there is no middle ground with.Chevron, believe it or not, is at the forefront of alternative energy research: eta:That's a puff piece of marketing more than much substantial information. I gave you science on the alien which you didn't even acknowledge. tee hee Title: Re: gas Post by: betteroffhere on February 28, 2011, 09:00:04 pm I'm all for them doing that but it's largely too little too late as I see it. My frustration with oil has more to do with the environmental disasters even aside from the gulf. Man's preoccupation with profit over people's lives is the bottom line, which for me there is no middle ground with. eta:That's a puff piece of marketing more than much substantial information. I gave you science on the alien which you didn't even acknowledge. tee hee hmm...i seen a video...and claims made....but no science per say and three years is a pretty quick turn over on oil production...plus providing a shit load of jobs... oil is plentyful...don't buy the bullshit...the earth continually generates it...its a natural occurrence Title: Re: gas Post by: Howey on February 28, 2011, 09:12:24 pm science oil is plentyful the earth continually generates it...its a natural occurrence hmm...i seen claims made....but no science per say Same here. Oil may be a natural occurrence, but how many millions of years does it make to make it plentiful? Isn't today's oil the product of millions of years of decay and compression of organisms within the ground? Like, shells, dinosaurs, cavemen, alien babies (for FooFa), vegetation, and such? Using your standards, boh, in two hundred years our ancestors will be dead. In fifty million years, our distant ancestors will be able to once again pilot their vehicles with fuel made from our remains. Until then? Let's think ahead and find some alternative sources of energy, ok? Title: Re: gas Post by: betteroffhere on February 28, 2011, 09:34:10 pm Same here. Oil may be a natural occurrence, but how many millions of years does it make to make it plentiful? Isn't today's oil the product of millions of years of decay and compression of organisms within the ground? Like, shells, dinosaurs, cavemen, alien babies (for FooFa), vegetation, and such? Using your standards, boh, in two hundred years our ancestors will be dead. In fifty million years, our distant ancestors will be able to once again pilot their vehicles with fuel made from our remains. Until then? Let's think ahead and find some alternative sources of energy, ok? we don't need to find them...we need to make them profitable.... b....we have more than enough to sustain ourselves...unless you are one of those who beleive its dino debri...and the supply is limited. not my standards....but yours...don't try to lil mike me...i don't buy that bullshit... and i'm not pointing to scientific studies...just expressing my opinion about the issue... besides...the cycle is continuos...everyday new materials get added to the pressure cooker knucklehead... the planet didn't just stop its cycles after the dino's...it continued...and still does today...so i will in time...participate in the process...thats had millions of years of materials to reduce reuse and recycle whether we want it too or not... but you go on beleiving that this is some dino shit if you want...cause after all....thats how you/we have been programmed Title: Re: gas Post by: Howey on March 01, 2011, 08:34:01 am you are one of those who beleive its dino debri...and the supply is limited. Aside from the fact that I actually said: Quote Isn't today's oil the product of millions of years of decay and compression of organisms within the ground? Like, shells, dinosaurs, cavemen, alien babies (for FooFa), vegetation, and such? which makes you the winner of today's "lilMike Word Twisting Award". There's millions of things going into the creation of fossil fuels (funny how it's called that, huh? ;)) Among them, plant life. How much of the plant life of our world has been destroyed in the past two hundred years? Will there be enough decaying plant life to produce fossil fuels for the next 50 million years to consume? See, boh: You're taking the Republican "If it works today..." stance. I'm thinking about tomorrow.... Title: Re: gas Post by: betteroffhere on March 01, 2011, 02:18:12 pm Using your standards, boh, in two hundred years our ancestors will be dead. In fifty million years, our distant ancestors will be able to once again pilot their vehicles with fuel made from our remains. i suppose this quote through me off a bit...as if you were suggesting no one would be driving until the next batch of oil had been created. as if the process has a off period, when it doesn't... i know...you think we...the lil protons of the planet are going to consume all the oil...its finite... because that is how you/we have been trained to think via propaganda...its bullshit but....thats just my opinion...not a lil mike twist Title: Re: gas Post by: Howey on March 01, 2011, 03:17:41 pm its finite... Back about 150 years ago when oil was "discovered", the number of people on this earth was far fewer than now. Since that time, oil has been guzzled, guzzled, guzzled at an alarming rate. Believe it or not, the core of Earth is not a sloshing vat of oil. Oil, like diamonds, gold, and countless other minerals is not in infinite supply. Someday we will run out of it, or the cost of exploration for it will be prohibitive and damaging to the environment. I ask again: Why can we not explore alternative fuel sources now while we can? Title: Re: gas Post by: betteroffhere on March 01, 2011, 05:48:27 pm Back about 150 years ago when oil was "discovered", the number of people on this earth was far fewer than now. Since that time, oil has been guzzled, guzzled, guzzled at an alarming rate. because it is plentiful,der...alarming to who...?...those that have been programmed to accept what they're being told...eh Believe it or not, the core of Earth is not a sloshing vat of oil. Oil, like diamonds, gold, and countless other minerals is not in infinite supply. Someday we will run out of it, or the cost of exploration for it will be prohibitive and damaging to the environment. I ask again: Why can we not explore alternative fuel sources now while we can? someday our sun will lose its power source too...so...lets just scrap the solar energy idea now...wait... thats an alternative energy source...there are alternative energy sources out there...they're just not profitable,yet... and in the future...the ones who will be able to exploit these resources will big oil comanies...who already are heavily invested in the energy markets...cause they'll be able to afford to mass produce whatever alternatives for our consumption... but only after they figure out how to control the technology and profit from it...til then its oil...and its oil because they know it is plentiful...and they have you/us believing its finite...as in will be out next decade or so...and you know deep down in your brain its not true...otherwise we would be drastically changing our patterns of behaviour... sure...a certain amount of change will be caused by the higher fuel prices and its affect on commerce...but thats to control the socio economic groups and to keep the lil people in check...and under the thumb of the elites...i need to stop this...i don't think i'm getting anywhere here... Title: Re: gas Post by: Howey on March 01, 2011, 06:09:09 pm i need to stop this...i don't think i'm getting anywhere here... Thank you.... ;D Title: Re: gas Post by: betteroffhere on March 01, 2011, 06:12:55 pm Done.
Title: Re: gas Post by: ekg on March 02, 2011, 05:13:14 pm i suppose this quote through me off a bit...as if you were suggesting no one would be driving until the next batch of oil had been created. as if the process has a off period, when it doesn't... i know...you think we...the lil protons of the planet are going to consume all the oil...its finite... because that is how you/we have been trained to think via propaganda...its bullshit but....thats just my opinion...not a lil mike twist I may be misunderstanding you.. but are you saying we will never run out of oil? that it is constantly being re-made everyday? Title: Re: gas Post by: betteroffhere on March 02, 2011, 05:43:22 pm I may be misunderstanding you.. but are you saying we will never run out of oil? that it is constantly being re-made everyday? correct... not so much as never...like the sun example...at some point...everything will exhaust itself... its just we won't be the cause of it... Title: Re: gas Post by: ekg on March 04, 2011, 08:34:59 am correct... not so much as never...like the sun example...at some point...everything will exhaust itself... its just we won't be the cause of it... is this a 'theory' of yours? or something you've read? What makes you say something like? Because as far as I know (which on this issue really isn't much).. all the science says otherwise.. or is your contention that there is conspiracy to keep us uniformed/misinformed about this issue to keep us scared 'sheep' and thus easier to control by making us buy into the propaganda...literally and figuratively? Title: Re: gas Post by: betteroffhere on March 04, 2011, 04:29:08 pm is this a 'theory' of yours?Yes... or something you've read?decades of reading What makes you say something like? Because as far as I know (which on this issue really isn't much).. all the science says otherwise..who's science ?...i've watched this bullshit for over 40 years...and science has been consitantly wrong.... or is your contention that there is conspiracy to keep us uniformed/misinformed about this issue to keep us scared 'sheep' and thus easier to control by making us buy into the propaganda...literally and figuratively? correct...that is my contention...nothing more nothing less...could i prove it...idk...but there is enough compelling evidence over the last forty years to suggest it is all bullshit...by design Title: Re: gas Post by: ekg on March 06, 2011, 08:42:02 pm .who's science ?...i've watched this bullshit for over 40 years...and science has been consitantly wrong.... correct...that is my contention...nothing more nothing less...could i prove it...idk...but there is enough compelling evidence over the last forty years to suggest it is all bullshit...by design so, over the last 40 years the science has said it is finite.. and you are saying all the science over the last 40 years, is wrong.. and they are wrong by design? meaning there has been a grand conspiracy.. I would hope you're right.. because if the science is right and we are depleting the oil before we can replace it.. in the next few years after 'peak-oil' we're going to screwed.. Title: Re: gas Post by: betteroffhere on March 06, 2011, 09:16:16 pm so, over the last 40 years the science has said it is finite.. and you are saying all the science over the last 40 years, is wrong.. and they are wrong by design? meaning there has been a grand conspiracy.. I would hope you're right.. because if the science is right and we are depleting the oil before we can replace it.. in the next few years after 'peak-oil' we're going to screwed.. i suddenly feel the need to take this to another bored...but i'm not sure which... between the five or so of us here...i've began to look at the dynamics of the education system through our posts... i'm assuming we are products of public schooling...and based on the different ways words are digested from the posts that are replied to and how far the pendulum can swing over just a word and its context is frightening... the fuckers have us by pre k now...orginized disorientation...each town each city,state...programming us...different agendas,different skills...pre determined education...and thinking process...for their greater porpuse we all fit the nitch we have been designed to function in...palying our role like a drone believeing we have free will... buying the goods sold to us that we find interest in... destractions designed to keep you from winning....the real game Title: Re: gas Post by: Howey on March 07, 2011, 08:43:13 am i suddenly feel the need to take this to another bored...but i'm not sure which... May I suggest this one? http://popculturedoneright.smfforfree.com/index.php/board,46.0.html i'm assuming we are products of public schooling You are assuming wrong, my friend. ;) we all fit the nitch we have been designed to function in That's called society. Title: Re: gas Post by: lil mike on March 08, 2011, 02:32:35 pm correct... not so much as never...like the sun example...at some point...everything will exhaust itself... its just we won't be the cause of it... I'm familiar with the theory you're speaking of, and I think that for now at least, it's just a theory, although I can see the incentive to want to believe in that particular theory. Just like the AGW people really want to believe in AGW because it already fits a worldview... But even if it's correct in terms of how oil is generated (and it's possible since we can do it that way in the lab), that doesn't mean that we can't outpace the amount of oil generation and still run out, for all practical purposes anyway. But we've only had a 50 year world supply of oil for over a 100 years. We are constantly finding more, and are able to refine more (the oil sands) as our technology gets better. That said we have no practical way to replace it with our current technology and still maintain our current industrial lifestyle. So for the short term (the next 0-40 years) we better find and use all the oil we can get until at least we can ween ourselves off it. Title: Re: gas Post by: betteroffhere on March 08, 2011, 04:20:19 pm I'm familiar with the theory you're speaking of, and I think that for now at least, it's just a theory, although I can see the incentive to want to believe in that particular theory. Just like the AGW people really want to believe in AGW because it already fits a worldview... But even if it's correct in terms of how oil is generated (and it's possible since we can do it that way in the lab), that doesn't mean that we can't outpace the amount of oil generation and still run out, for all practical purposes anyway. But we've only had a 50 year world supply of oil for over a 100 years. We are constantly finding more, and are able to refine more (the oil sands) as our technology gets better. That said we have no practical way to replace it with our current technology and still maintain our current industrial lifestyle. So for the short term (the next 0-40 years) we better find and use all the oil we can get until at least we can ween ourselves off it. idk what AGW is.... and i think i understand what you are saying... something to the effect that we will outpace the ability for earth to replenish itself... i doubt it... Title: Re: gas Post by: FooFa on March 08, 2011, 05:05:57 pm AGW Anthropogenic Global Warming AGW Anti-Global Warming I just watched a documentary on hulu about some artists going to the north pole to get impressions about the issue which is not worth your time imho. But the scientist who has been there for over ten years said that global warming is 95% man made. I still don't what to think about it. I see this as related since global warming or climate change is similarly bandied about as oil supply. Title: Re: gas Post by: Howey on March 11, 2011, 04:30:50 pm It comes as no surprise that the President is being blamed for increased gas prices.
(http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110310/pl_afp/mideastunrestuseconomypoliticsoil) Quote A senior US senator on Thursday ruled out violent unrest across the Middle East as a main cause of surging oil and gasoline prices, placing the blame instead on plans to curb greenhouse gases. "A lot of people are saying that the gas prices that are going up are a result, partially, of what's happening over there. That isn't the real problem," said Republican Senator James Inhofe, his party's senior member on the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee and a climate change skeptic. Inhofe said that "the real problem" was President Barack Obama's efforts to enact a cap-and-trade plan to curb emissions of greenhouse gases blamed by scientists for global warming. Notwithstanding the turmoil in the Middle East, it's the same ol', same ol'. Thankfully, the Prez has grown a pair: Quote "Now, the hard truth is, is that as long as our economy depends on foreign oil, we'll always be subject to price spikes. So we've got to get moving on a comprehensive energy strategy that pursues both more energy production and more energy conservation. We need to increase our access to secure energy supplies in the near term, and we've got to make our economy more energy-efficient and energy-independent over the long run. "Let me be more specific. First, we need to continue to boost domestic production of oil and gas. Last year, American oil production reached its highest level since 2003. Let me repeat that. Our oil production reached its highest level in seven years. Oil production from federal waters in the Gulf of Mexico reached an all-time high. For the first time in more than a decade, imports accounted for less than half of what we consumed. "So any notion that my administration has shut down oil production might make for a good political sound bite, but it doesn't match up with reality. We are encouraging offshore exploration and production. We're just doing it responsibly." Quote "So beyond increased domestic production, if we want to secure our long-term prosperity and protect the American people from more severe oil shocks in the future, the way to do it is to gradually reduce demand and then do everything we can to break our dependence on oil. [...] "But the bottom line is this. We've been having this conversation for nearly four decades now. Every few years, gas prices go up; politicians pull out the same old political playbook, and then nothing changes. And when prices go back down, we slip back into a trance. And then when prices go up, suddenly we're shocked. I think the American people are tired of that." I guess the upcoming Republican response to these smart words will be: Quote Drill Baby, Drill! Title: Re: gas Post by: 44nutman on March 11, 2011, 07:17:26 pm i suddenly feel the need to take this to another bored...but i'm not sure which... You should read A Brave New World. There is some proof it was plagerized but a good read none the less. Everyone is worried about 1984 happening they got the wrong book. between the five or so of us here...i've began to look at the dynamics of the education system through our posts... i'm assuming we are products of public schooling...and based on the different ways words are digested from the posts that are replied to and how far the pendulum can swing over just a word and its context is frightening... the fuckers have us by pre k now...orginized disorientation...each town each city,state...programming us...different agendas,different skills...pre determined education...and thinking process...for their greater porpuse we all fit the nitch we have been designed to function in...palying our role like a drone believeing we have free will... buying the goods sold to us that we find interest in... destractions designed to keep you from winning....the real game Title: Re: gas Post by: Howey on March 11, 2011, 08:35:07 pm You should read A Brave New World. There is some proof it was plagerized but a good read none the less. Everyone is worried about 1984 happening they got the wrong book. I understand there's a new version of it coming out this year. http://www.scifimoviepage.com/upcoming/previews/brave_new_world.html Starring Leonardo DiCaprio, who must be doing a hell of a lot of drugs lately. :-\ Title: Re: gas Post by: FooFa on March 11, 2011, 10:01:22 pm I understand there's a new version of it coming out this year. (http://www.scifimoviepage.com/upcoming/photos/leonardo_dicaprio.jpg)http://www.scifimoviepage.com/upcoming/previews/brave_new_world.html Starring Leonardo DiCaprio, who must be doing a hell of a lot of drugs lately. :-\ lol |