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« on: January 09, 2012, 05:15:58 pm » |
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Good. Next time (name silly Republican here) wants to ban a book, movie, or television show (probably about those fags) because it offends his psyche we'll be standing here waiting for your post decrying the failure of free speech!
Ha! I await your "challenge!"
Too easy! Thanks, Citizens United! Oh. Before you ask. It's a movie from Newt's gang, Winning Our Future. Or should it be Whining Our Future? 
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lil mike
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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2012, 08:16:11 pm » |
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Too easy! Thanks, Citizens United! Oh. Before you ask. It's a movie from Newt's gang, Winning Our Future. Or should it be Whining Our Future?  I'm really not seeing your point. Did Romney want the government to ban this ad? And more to the point, do you think the ad should be banned?
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2012, 09:51:30 pm » |
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This is what is going to happen. The corporations are going to abuse the ruling that they can spend a ton of money and put out any kind of shit they can think of as an attack ad. The candidates are going to whine about it, and some of the candidates are going to be an elected official back in Washington, since most make a career out of politics. Those butt hurt candidates are going to pass laws to forbid, the yellow dog Youtube videos and campaign ads.
Who knew these people/corporations would take something and abuse it? Never saw that one coming! I am no longer mad about the Supreme Court ruling since the corporations are going to hang themselves and it will be changed in a couple of years.
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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2012, 08:39:37 am » |
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Who knew these people/corporations would take something and abuse it? Never saw that one coming! I am no longer mad about the Supreme Court ruling since the corporations are going to hang themselves and it will be changed in a couple of years.
Bingo! It's hilarious that they never thought their own dirty tricks could be used against themselves! Meanwhile, OUCH!You can make your own judgment, but this is one of the most devilishly effective attack communications I've personally ever seen--a heat-seeking missile aimed directly at the white working class id. Mitt saying "A bientot" at the end (apparently harvested from Romney's Olympics PSAs) is the capper.
And aside from the xenophobic flourishes, the film is really just a well-wrought glimpse at the underside of contemporary finance capitalism, with Mitt Romney serving as the chief villain, right up there with Bernie Madoff and other sinister characters. No wonder DeMint and Limbaugh have denounced this video: they should, because it's an assault on everything they believe in.
Word is 30-second and 60-second clips from the video will go up on SC television tomorrow, as part of a $2.4 million ad buy (some serious coin in this low-cost state). I've only been able to see the 30-second version, but it's obvious these short ads won't pack the punch of the longer piece.
The rapidly emerging CW is that this assault on Romney will help him win the nomination, either because conservatives like ruthless financial pirates, or (as I have earlier predicted) Republican poohbahs think the contest is getting too nasty, and this particular attack very obviously reinforces Democratic talking points--not just about Romney and Bain, but about many of those alleged "job creators" generally. Hell, if I were a rich guy myself, I'd find a way to put "When Mitt Romney Came To Town" in front of as many people as possible.
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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2012, 01:02:39 pm » |
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Of course Limpballs is denouncing the video. Google Bain Capital and Clear Channel. Limpballs knows he can't say boo because he would no longer be able to afford his new wife and his Oxys without clear channel.
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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2012, 01:23:00 pm » |
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Of course Limpballs is denouncing the video. Google Bain Capital and Clear Channel. Limpballs knows he can't say boo because he would no longer be able to afford his new wife and his Oxys without clear channel.
Hah! I did! Check out the comments here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2831290/postsThese guys are scared shitless! 
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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2012, 04:09:54 pm » |
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I glad this is finally becoming part of the discourse, even if I'm not so sure Mitt's opponents are genuinely concerned with this type of capitalism...or just piling on with something that resonates across all political affiliations.
We've all been screaming about this since before the collapse and capitalism was treated as sacrosanct in all manifestations and trying to have debates or conversations were summarily dismissed as everything from Marxists, Socialist, Anti-Capitalism, Unpatriotic...to even treasonous. It's been maddening to say the least.
So the real question now becomes...do we/will we actually address this in a realistic manner or will this just be allowed to breath long enough to act as attacks against Romney, to be drown out again in divisive rhetoric when it's served it's purpose?
I, for one, hope it's embraced for REAL discussions/contemplation...
...and that titties will somehow be involved.
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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2012, 04:11:07 pm » |
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Of course Limpballs is denouncing the video. Google Bain Capital and Clear Channel. Limpballs knows he can't say boo because he would no longer be able to afford his new wife and his Oxys without clear channel.
I heard some of the meltdown with Perry and Newt. I think we may actually see him stroke out on air.
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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2012, 04:33:10 pm » |
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I heard some of the meltdown with Perry and Newt. I think we may actually see him stroke out on air.
If there is a God...
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« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2012, 12:31:44 pm » |
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I glad this is finally becoming part of the discourse, even if I'm not so sure Mitt's opponents are genuinely concerned with this type of capitalism...or just piling on with something that resonates across all political affiliations.
We've all been screaming about this since before the collapse and capitalism was treated as sacrosanct in all manifestations and trying to have debates or conversations were summarily dismissed as everything from Marxists, Socialist, Anti-Capitalism, Unpatriotic...to even treasonous. It's been maddening to say the least.
So the real question now becomes...do we/will we actually address this in a realistic manner or will this just be allowed to breath long enough to act as attacks against Romney, to be drown out again in divisive rhetoric when it's served it's purpose?
I, for one, hope it's embraced for REAL discussions/contemplation...
...and that titties will somehow be involved.
Mitt has already decided that any talk of that kind should be done in 'quiet rooms'.. ya know, with him and his elite crowd because if we lowly peons are a part of a discussion on wall street,the economy,wealth.. etc we'd just get jealous.. so this kind of conversation is to be done outside of our presence..we're just too envious to handle that kind of dialog.. Others critics are challenging a tax system that has allowed wealth to concentrate more and more at the top, impeded income mobility and hit particularly hard at middle-income families, losers in a class war they did not start. They want to put on trial a structure that bails out bankers in trouble but shrugs off the woes of the unemployed and the foreclosed as part of the "creative destruction" necessary for growth. They're angry, not envious.As a relatively calm person, I support Romney's implicit call for polite, reasoned discourse here. But it won't happen until he sets an example, stops flinging self-pitying accusations and acknowledges that his foes and critics have reasonable concerns about fairness and growing income inequality. He could start by allowing that it isn't anti-God and anti-capitalism insisting that we do better by those destroyed in the cycle of creative destruction.In other words, expect a lot of noise in the coming months. http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/2012/01/shhhh-romney-wants-economy-talk-in-quiet-rooms.html
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« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2012, 05:05:47 pm » |
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Mitt has already decided that any talk of that kind should be done in 'quiet rooms'.. ya know, with him and his elite crowd because if we lowly peons are a part of a discussion on wall street,the economy,wealth.. etc we'd just get jealous.. so this kind of conversation is to be done outside of our presence..we're just too envious to handle that kind of dialog..
I meant to post that bit about the "quiet rooms". I guess the ignorant, poor masses are unqualified to discuss the elite rich republicans. Comments like that are why we have the Occupy movement. But it won't happen until he sets an example, stops flinging self-pitying accusations
Sure would be nice if someone around here put an end to that too... 
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« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2012, 08:28:15 pm » |
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I'm really not seeing your point. Did Romney want the government to ban this ad? And more to the point, do you think the ad should be banned?
Still waiting for an answer...
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« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2012, 08:33:25 pm » |
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I'm really not seeing your point. Did Romney want the government to ban this ad? And more to the point, do you think the ad should be banned?
Still waiting for an answer...
Oh! Sorry! Why would Romney want the government to ban the ad? It's legal now! And more to the point, do you think the ad should be banned?
Why? It's legal now!!!!! Not like the CU 90 minute ad was! I sure don't want to see the ad banned! Me (or, is it I?) and a few thousand friends have been posting it everywhere! Sarah 12!
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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2012, 02:18:40 pm » |
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Oh! Sorry!
Why would Romney want the government to ban the ad? It's legal now!
Why? It's legal now!!!!! Not like the CU 90 minute ad was! I sure don't want to see the ad banned! Me (or, is it I?) and a few thousand friends have been posting it everywhere!
Sarah 12!
Finally, an ad you don't want to see banned! Too bad it's not based on love of free expression or the first amendment, but heh, at least we can agree on one thing! I expect to see some King of GM ads this fall, since the King of GM forced on GM a reorganization (which you have been wildly supportive of) that resulted in the loss of 30,000 jobs from GM. All hail the King! 
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