Just to be clear, the post you quoted wasn't written by me. Since you seemed to refer to me in this post (lil libertarian) I just wanted to make that clear since you didn't.
never said it was, never implied it was.. since he's not here to defend it, I didn't use his name..
Since when did libertarian become a dirty word for liberals?
didn't know it was, just think it's funny you consider yourself one..
I guess it's all part of the process of slowly realizing that state power is more important to you than individual liberty.
but that's where you and I (and real libertarians) differ.. I think liberty is more important... I'm sorry you don't.
But I did go back and read that thread and it was a very good interesting thread. What have we learned since that time? You totally lost interest in "warrantless wiretaps" since January 2009!
And here is a bit of interesting prophesy from me in that very thread:
nope, just like the Pat Act.. I'm still against both.. but it's the law of the land now.. I've tried and tried to tell you that once these kinds of powers are given up, it's impossible to get them back... since you read that thread, maybe you read where I was told that during wartimes we give these powers up, but when it's peaceful we get them back (I think it was that one).. well HAHA to that... Once that power is given up, we don't ever get it back. I warned you repeatedly that it wouldn't just be GWB using it, and you were fine with ...since ya know, you're the only one who really wants to win the GWOT and all.. but I'll tell you again, it doesn't matter who is in the big chair, they won't always be the one in that chair, so giving up liberties just because you like the (R) or (D) after their name is pretty fucked up..
if only you would have listened and been against it from the start.. maybe we could have done something then.. but nope, you abide by that party affiliation no matter what liberties or laws are broken..and now those laws are hear to stay..