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What if Bush did this?

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« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2012, 01:31:59 pm »

We've turned into a nation of pussies.  We really have.  The reason this continuation of the Patriot Act has legs, is that Obama and anyone running for President knows that more people are willing to vote against anyone who tries to dismantle it, at or least take some of it's teeth away.

I've talked to several people who are all high on the indignation list of yelling their freedoms are being trampled...but they're the same people who find value and a sense of safety in the very thing they supposedly rail against.  Because this couldn't POSSIBLY apply to them, even in the abstract.

Until there is a majority outcry, that can unseat a politician from his or her job...or hinder them from getting elected...this won't change.

you can't even imagine how many times I was told "If you don't do anything wrong, this law won't affect you" or "They can look all they want, I've got nothing to hide" ... one of the most hilarious replies I got on the nsa wiretapping was

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"I'm not meaning to start anything here but, you do realize that England was able to do what they did last week because they don't have these laws against tapping/eavsdropping.

MI-5 was intercepting emails and phone calls for months before they acted. Isn't that a good thing?"

of course the hard righties thought it was OK to be all 'European' during the Bush years...Now, it's the insult du jour saying that Obama want us to be more like 'Europe'.. hell, the tea party formed in part to stop him from committing this Fox-induced fantasy... ah, the irony..

by the way, the lil libertarian who started this thread has no problems with the Pat Act or any other 'tool' a president wants to use on the GWOT... so don't fall prey to his 'instigation' games..
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