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« on: January 18, 2012, 09:41:28 am » |
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Oops! I guess it was in support of/against SOPA. People get sooo riled up over nothing...
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Howey
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2012, 09:48:33 am » |
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Before lilMike says it's all Obama's fault like the NDAA: The White House has responded to two petitions about legislative approaches to combat online piracy. In their response, Victoria Espinel, Intellectual Property Enforcement Coordinator at Office of Management and Budget, Aneesh Chopra, U.S. Chief Technology Officer, and Howard Schmidt, Special Assistant to the President and Cybersecurity Coordinator for National Security Staff stress that the important task of protecting intellectual property online must not threaten an open and innovative internet.
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44nutman
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2012, 11:00:54 am » |
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Before lilMike says it's all Obama's fault(like the NDAA: Just another loss of my freedoms on Obamas watch.
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Howey
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2012, 11:16:29 am » |
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Just another loss of my freedoms on Obamas watch.
Obama's against it. 
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2012, 12:28:51 pm » |
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Obama's against it.  Then veto it.
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2012, 12:42:45 pm » |
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Obama's against it.  2nd thought, funny how all the stuff that usurps my freedom, Obama is against but it still gets passed.
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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2012, 12:45:08 pm » |
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Then veto it.
It won't even get to him.
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Howey
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2012, 12:55:26 pm » |
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2nd thought, funny how all the stuff that usurps my freedom, Obama is against but it still gets passed.
So why blame Obama?
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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2012, 01:51:36 pm » |
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So why blame Obama?
My point being he is against it, but those bills keep getting passed. So either he is a liar or inept, I hope it is just the later. He can based on powers granted to him by the Constitution stop these bills; he just has not shown the balls to do it. Just like SOPA, there are ways to stop piracy, without nuking the internet. I guess piracy is now the new terrorist. Funny all the news media outlets are spinning the piracy angle, because their bullshit reporting can't compete with the internet. If I tell everyone I am a God fearing man, but like to cheat on my cancer riddled wife, it gets harder to believe my self proclaimed Godliness.
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2012, 02:52:50 pm » |
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My point being he is against it, but those bills keep getting passed. This bill hasn't passed. If it turns out that it is passed, with the support of some blue-dog dems who've fallen for the paranoia of the far right, it still won't be Obama's fault. It'll be the fault of the doomsday conspiracy theorists (read teabaggers).
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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2012, 05:12:33 pm » |
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This bill hasn't passed. If it turns out that it is passed, with the support of some blue-dog dems who've fallen for the paranoia of the far right, it still won't be Obama's fault. It'll be the fault of the doomsday conspiracy theorists (read teabaggers).
Obama signed the NDAA law. So yes he has had a hand in taking away my Constitutional freedoms. Obama has a history of signing something he does not support or does he just say he doesn't support it and then signs it anyway.
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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2012, 05:18:43 pm » |
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Obama signed the NDAA law. So yes he has had a hand in taking away my Constitutional freedoms. Obama has a history of signing something he does not support or does he just say he doesn't support it and then signs it anyway.
If he didn't sign some shit nothing would get done! He expressed his misgivings with the NDAA and made sure what he was concerned about wouldn't happen during his administration. That's all he could do.
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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2012, 08:43:01 pm » |
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This bill hasn't passed. If it turns out that it is passed, with the support of some blue-dog dems who've fallen for the paranoia of the far right, it still won't be Obama's fault. It'll be the fault of the doomsday conspiracy theorists (read teabaggers).
How did my name get dragged into this? I've not posted anything about SOPA. Previous experience on the Muche shows that when I've posted about bills that threaten internet freedom, I get a lot of pushback. At least in this case, there is a left/right coalition opposed to it. We really couldn't put one together for the NDAA but maybe we've learned something from that debacle.
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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2012, 09:19:17 pm » |
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My point being he is against it, but those bills keep getting passed. So either he is a liar or inept, I hope it is just the later. He can based on powers granted to him by the Constitution stop these bills; he just has not shown the balls to do it.
Just like SOPA, there are ways to stop piracy, without nuking the internet. I guess piracy is now the new terrorist. Funny all the news media outlets are spinning the piracy angle, because their bullshit reporting can't compete with the internet.
If I tell everyone I am a God fearing man, but like to cheat on my cancer riddled wife, it gets harder to believe my self proclaimed Godliness.
he was never for SOPA.. he's taking big hits in Hollywood for being against it.. President Obama could face an anti-SOPA backlash from some of his traditional backers in Hollywood over his administration's stance on the controversial anti-piracy bills that have sparked a massive online protest. Two senior entertainment executives and Obama donors, who declined to speak on the record, said they would not give the president's reelection effort further financial support because of his opposition to key parts of the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and the Protect Intellectual Property Act (PIPA).The two bills have been aggressively supported by the Motion Picture Assn. of America, which is Hollywood's chief lobbying arm, and entertainment industry unions, as a way to combat global Internet piracy. But the two groups have received serious push back from a coalition of top Internet companies that argue the proposed bills are poorly designed and don't have adequate civil liberties protections. PHOTOS: Sites on strike Other executives in the largely Democratic community said that although they are unhappy with Obama's position on the bills, they do not plan to abandon their support. “I don’t like the fact that Obama is against this,'' said producer Mike Medavoy, a lifelong Democrat and major Obama supporter. "But, this is a single issue and I’m not a single issue voter."http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2012/01/obama-could-lose-some-support-in-hollywood-over-sopa.htmlIt's Rupert Murdoch who wants this.. not Obama. Maybe you should read this piece by Andrew Sullivan.. because you seem to have a major disillusionment going on.. he really can't walk on water and neither can he do it all. It's up to congress and us to make congress do the things we want done.. Just like the SOPA protest today forced even Rubio to take away his support of the bill.. Obama can't do it all.. he isn't od no matter how much the gOP calls him 'messiah'..
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