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« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2012, 02:47:13 pm »

I  don't think it comes off as particularly idealistic, but disconnected; yes.  I'm trying to connect your rejection of the profit motive with a viable alternative as opposed to merely a rejection of the status quo.  I didn't expect you to object to crappy employees being fired.  The other employees are glad those guys are gone.  But for example if a company finds that they can buy a software program for a price cheaper than their average employee's bi weekly wage, and it can replace 12 employees, what is the ethical boss to do?

You've stated that "You're employees are counting on you to have their best interests as part of the overall reasoning for success.  If they're viewed as just a necessary evil that can be expunged if it's more profitable to just gut and collapse their workplace for resale, insurance money, bankruptcy...you're in it for the wrong reasons."  So should the boss not buy the software program, and purposely keep those employees on the job, or is there a fiduciary responsibility to have efficient and profitable, operations?

I'm not rejecting the profit motive, never have.  Making a profit AND a stable society and citizenry aren't mutually exclusive, unless you're going to set up a dynamic that MAKES them mutually exclusive and solidify that exclusivity by defining a concept (capitalism/commerce) in absolute terms.

"9 billion dollars is a hell of a fucking profit! Our companies sound, our employees are happy, our economies stable and we project 11 billion by next year!"

"9 billion dollars is a hell of a fucking profit!  BUT, we could have made 12 billion if we moved our operations overseas, paid those employees much much less, added to the destabilization of our homeland stability and we project 15 billion by next year!"

We're at a crossroads, at this point in our history.  Do we use a concept to better our society and it's citizenry or do we use a concept to justify absolutes that derail society and it's citizenry?

Greed can be a good motivator.  Heck, it can even be behind innovation, technology, goods and services when it comes to commerce...but greed devoid of any other intentions, than greed, is a run away destructive force that ALWAYS eventually has detrimental consequences.
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