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« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2012, 07:46:32 pm »

If it comes off disconnected or idealistic, it's because you're applying absolutes to what I'm saying.  Of course people can and will be released (fired) from companies/businesses.  If it's what's required as the only alternative of mismanaged practices or an ever turbulent part of commerce not expected.  Heck, it could be the employee themselves (and is quite frequently) that signs their own walking papers through ineptness or douche baggery.

You're equating all aspects of profit (motives, origins, pursuit of) as one defining single paradigm that ultimately has no other purpose than the bottom line, *whatever* that entails...as if its a sentient force unable to be anything other than what it is...and we're all along for a ride on the tail ...subject completely to it's whim.

That's the type of static rhetoric that excludes all other realities, even when you're living it and its brought us to this point...as it has before.  It's just barely a 100 years and we're fighting tooth and nail to repeat our previous financial explosion...except now, it's global.

I  don't think it comes off as particularly idealistic, but disconnected; yes.  I'm trying to connect your rejection of the profit motive with a viable alternative as opposed to merely a rejection of the status quo.  I didn't expect you to object to crappy employees being fired.  The other employees are glad those guys are gone.  But for example if a company finds that they can buy a software program for a price cheaper than their average employee's bi weekly wage, and it can replace 12 employees, what is the ethical boss to do?

You've stated that "You're employees are counting on you to have their best interests as part of the overall reasoning for success.  If they're viewed as just a necessary evil that can be expunged if it's more profitable to just gut and collapse their workplace for resale, insurance money, bankruptcy...you're in it for the wrong reasons."  So should the boss not buy the software program, and purposely keep those employees on the job, or is there a fiduciary responsibility to have efficient and profitable, operations?
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