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« Reply #60 on: February 20, 2012, 03:44:44 pm »

and btw.. if Wyden Bennet didn't have a mandate then what is this?

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"Healthy Americans Act - Requires each adult individual to have the opportunity to purchase a Healthy Americans Private Insurance Plan (HAPI), which is: (1) a plan offered by a state; or (2) an employer-sponsored health coverage plan. Makes individuals who are not enrolled in another specified health plan and who are not opposed to coverage for religious reasons responsible for enrolling themselves and their dependent children in a HAPI plan offered through their state of residence. Sets forth penalties for failure to enroll."

requires one to buy insurance, if you don't.. you get a penalty..

and  if that's not a 'mandate, it's a tax' then so is this..
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"Subtitle F: Shared Responsibility for Health Care - Part I: Individual Responsibility - (Sec. 1501, as modified by section 10106) Requires individuals to maintain minimal essential health care coverage beginning in 2014. Imposes a penalty for failure to maintain such coverage beginning in 2014, except for certain low-income individuals who cannot afford coverage, members of Indian tribes, and individuals who suffer hardship. Exempts from the coverage requirement individuals who object to health care coverage on religious grounds, individuals not lawfully present in the United States, and individuals who are incarcerated."

requires one to buy insurance, if you don't.. you get a penalty..

if one is not a mandate, neither is the other.. if one is a tax, then so is the other... sorry, you can't have it both ways..

and really, I believe pro-con over you on this issue.. and they say both are mandates..  so I'm not too worried about you answering this.. you don't admit mistakes easily so I know you'll never admit this one..
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