santorum steps in it

[ekg]

I do not doubt his sincerity, but does he really think he can say this kind of stuff and then dodge questions on it?

Santorum, speaking at the conservative Catholic Ave Maria University in Florida, praised the Catholic Bishop Samuel Aquila for pledging to deny communion to politicians who support abortion rights and said the matter went beyond politics and was a symptom of Satan’s reach in U.S. society.

“While we all see all this as a great political conflict in warfare between the Obama camp and the McCain camp and culture wars, what Bishop Aquila put his finger on and what I think, I suspect those of you who are here understand, this is not a political war at all. This is not a cultural war. This is a spiritual war,” Santorum said in August of 2008.

“And the Father of Lies has his sights on what you would think the Father of Lies would have his sights on: a good, decent, powerful, influential country, the United States of America. If you were Satan, who would you attack in this day and age. There is no one else to go after other than the United States and that has been the case now for almost 200 years, once America’s preeminence was sown by our great Founding Fathers.”

Santorum said Satan’s reach in U.S. society has grown.

“He didn’t have much success in the early days. Our foundation was very strong, in fact, is very strong. But over time, that great, acidic quality of time corrodes even the strongest foundations. And Satan has done so by attacking the great institutions of America, using those great vices of pride, vanity, and sensuality as the root to attack all of the strong plants that has so deeply rooted in the American tradition.”

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/02/graham-not-sold-on-obamas-christianity-santorum-warned-of-satan-in-2008/

Well, Chris Christie thinks it is relevant and he should answer questions on it..

Rick Santorum says his 2008 comments that “Satan has set his sights on the United States of America”  are “not relevant” to the 2012 presidential race, but Chris Christie told me on “GMA” that Santorum is wrong.

“Listen, I think anything you say as a presidential candidate is relevant. It is by definition relevant. You’re asking to be president of the United States. I don’t think [Santorum's] right about that. I think it is relevant what he says. I think people want to make an evaluation, a complete evaluation of anyone who asks to sit in the Oval Office,” the New Jersey governor said.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/02/chris-christie-rick-santorums-satan-comments-are-relevant/

he's right. Every thing you do is up for discussion when run for POTUS and when you say these kinds of things, it's as relevant as it would be if it was Obama speaking out of Qur'an.

Chirstie went on to say

But Christie doesn’t think a debate over religion is a conversation the Republican Party wants to engage in.

“Do I think it’s the things we should be as a party talking about and emphasizing at the moment? No,” he said.

with a Mormon and a religious extremist running for office.. that is the last conversation the gOP wants to have and I don't blame them. But at some point don't we have to? If Obama's listening to  the sermons of Rev. Wright were so much of an issue that not only did he have to leave his church, but he went and gave on the greatest 'race' speeches ever given..and probably one of the best he's ever given..was a fair topic, are these? so why hasn't 'Mormonism' been brought to the forefront yet? Why hasn't Santorum extremism been subject to discussion?

even if Obama's church wasn't an issue.. can't a religion  that believes in some pretty weird stuff (Mormons) and another's extreme following of a religion(santorum) be vetted?

I don't know that answer yet.. but I feel as though it should be a topic of discussion..

and finally, Sarah Palin.. of course she weighted in to complain that the 'media' was all "wee-wee'd" up of Santorum's satan comment...

"They will attack any conservatives who boldly proclaims their faith and talks about there is good in the world and there's evil in the world and that's what Rick Santorum was talking about. And this was a speech that he gave back in 2008 where he named evil as Satan. And for these lame-stream media characters to get all wee-weed up about that, first you have to ask yourself, 'Have they ever attended a Sunday school class even? Have they never heard of this terminology before?" And that's why they got so, you know, just whacked out about the speech," Sarah Palin told Sean Hannity on FOX News tonight
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/02/21/palin_media_getting_wee-weed_up_over_santorums_satan_remark.html

 well sure, but that 'media' was Drudge ie, right-wing media..

Drudge is making Santorum look like the scary mom from Carrie, pulling up several Santorum quotes from 2008. Those include "Satan is attacking the great institutions of America, using those great vices of pride, vanity, and sensuality as the root to attack all of the strong plants that has so deeply rooted in the American tradition," as well as "We look at the shape of mainline Protestantism in this country and it is in shambles, it is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it."

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/02/drudge-turns-santorum/48986/

if only Sarah could tell the truth.. she probably wouldn't be as irrelevant as she is right now..

[uselesslegs]

Let's see.  Obama's Use of a teleprompter was given GRADE A media attention...well, at least a few notable media outlets.

Actually, instead of typing 25 paragraphs worth of examples, I'll just say that I'm surprised that right leaning outlets think Ricky's observations and statements aren't worthy of particular note in the media...which he himself has said,...when incredible amounts of attention was given to non-associative items that Obama wasn't attached to.  Like his "origin of birth."  Complete and utter urban legend given legitimacy through these very same outlets.  Obama's a secret Muslim terrorist.  Treated with all the authority of an explosive expose for quite some time.

So yeah Rick, you think Satan's got us in his sights, I want a bit more clarification and elaboration on that please.

You think priests should deny Catholic politicians communion, who are pro-choice?...tell me more.

In 2008, when you said this wasn't a political war...at all...not a culture war...but a spiritual war?...I'm dying to know more.

If you're vying for the highest office in the land...I want to know about you...all of you...especially if YOU actually keep making the remarks.  It isn't undue attention...it's follow up on things YOU'VE ACTUALLY RECENTLY said.

[Howey]

Whacked out?

Really?

The only ones whacked out over this are Santorum, Palin, and these crazy fucking preachers and catholics parading their insanity!

Word on the street is Drudge is after Santorum because so anti-gay. Or, maybe Romney put him to it. (tee hee)

And...I really wouldn't say "steps in it". It's more like "swimming in it". 

[ekg]

Let's see.  Obama's Use of a teleprompter was given GRADE A media attention...well, at least a few notable media outlets.

Actually, instead of typing 25 paragraphs worth of examples, I'll just say that I'm surprised that right leaning outlets think Ricky's observations and statements aren't worthy of particular note in the media...which he himself has said,...when incredible amounts of attention was given to non-associative items that Obama wasn't attached to.  Like his "origin of birth."  Complete and utter urban legend given legitimacy through these very same outlets.  Obama's a secret Muslim terrorist.  Treated with all the authority of an explosive expose for quite some time.

So yeah Rick, you think Satan's got us in his sights, I want a bit more clarification and elaboration on that please.

You think priests should deny Catholic politicians communion, who are pro-choice?...tell me more.

In 2008, when you said this wasn't a political war...at all...not a culture war...but a spiritual war?...I'm dying to know more.

If you're vying for the highest office in the land...I want to know about you...all of you...especially if YOU actually keep making the remarks.  It isn't undue attention...it's follow up on things YOU'VE ACTUALLY RECENTLY said.

bravo!

[Howey]

bravo!

Get a room you two! Sheesh!

[uselesslegs]

Get a room you two! Sheesh!

I could never knock the top of her skull through the dry wall, with an aggressive fuck, so that ain't happen'nin maing.

[ekg]

I could never knock the top of her skull through the dry wall, with an aggressive fuck, so that ain't happen'nin maing.

HA!

wait, did you just call me a whore?

 

[44nutman]

Could it be, SATAN!

[ekg]

Let's see.  Obama's Use of a teleprompter was given GRADE A media attention...well, at least a few notable media outlets.

Actually, instead of typing 25 paragraphs worth of examples,

I heard a new one last night...David Corn was trying to explain to Michael Steele(ex rnc chairman) that when someone, Santorum, says that Satan has control over politics, then how is he supposed to work with the other side of the aisle. How can he work with 'Satan' to find common ground and compromises.and that's such a brilliant point.. But,Steele wouldn't shut up long enough to listen all he could say was, first, the media didn't care when it was Obama and Rev. Wright(bullshit,they cared so much Obama had to leave his church), and secondly he asked Corn to show Santorums policies that backed his 'Satan' comment.. so they could compare them to all of Obama's 'Black liberation theology' polices..

really? Obama's Black liberation theology polices... I'd love to know which ones those are..

I am so tired of hearing "The media didn't ask Obama about...." bullshit, the media hounded him on Wright until he denounced him, quit the church and then gave one the best race speeches ever. The media hounded him on 'bill ayers' and incessantly played clips of the Palin's et al 'pal'ing around with terrorists',the media hounded him on where he was born and hello, his name was a point of contention as well.. how many times did we see some Repub say “Barack Hussein Obama.’’ ?

everything about the guy was up for grabs and debate.. and you can bet your life that if Obama came out today as a 'Muslim'.. he'd be questioned ad naseum on his plan to turn us into a Sharia Law country.. because Muslims can't govern without their religion dictating their policy/positions.. unlike extreme jesus freaks. They of course can keep the two separate... *rollseyes*

[ekg]

Could it be, SATAN!

i LOVE your avatar.. HA!  I have watched that movie just for that part.. LOL she says it sooooo enthusiastically.. HA!

[Howey]

Welcome home, nutty!

[44nutman]

i LOVE your avatar.. HA!  I have watched that movie just for that part.. LOL she says it sooooo enthusiastically.. HA!

Its my daughters favorite movie and I think it is a great movie as well.

[ekg]

Its my daughters favorite movie and I think it is a great movie as well.

the part where the minions and the doc are trying to steal the ray gun and they go into the 'vents' and it's dark, so the one minion 'breaks and shakes' the other to make him shine like a 'light stick', almost killed me I laughed so hard..

[Howey]

i LOVE your avatar.. HA!  I have watched that movie just for that part.. LOL she says it sooooo enthusiastically.. HA!

Looks like they're fucking...

[uselesslegs]

I heard a new one last night...David Corn was trying to explain to Michael Steele(ex rnc chairman) that when someone, Santorum, says that Satan has control over politics, then how is he supposed to work with the other side of the aisle. How can he work with 'Satan' to find common ground and compromises.and that's such a brilliant point.. But,Steele wouldn't shut up long enough to listen all he could say was, first, the media didn't care when it was Obama and Rev. Wright(bullshit,they cared so much Obama had to leave his church), and secondly he asked Corn to show Santorums policies that backed his 'Satan' comment.. so they could compare them to all of Obama's 'Black liberation theology' polices..

really? Obama's Black liberation theology polices... I'd love to know which ones those are..

I am so tired of hearing "The media didn't ask Obama about...." bullshit, the media hounded him on Wright until he denounced him, quit the church and then gave one the best race speeches ever. The media hounded him on 'bill ayers' and incessantly played clips of the Palin's et al 'pal'ing around with terrorists',the media hounded him on where he was born and hello, his name was a point of contention as well.. how many times did we see some Repub say “Barack Hussein Obama.’’ ?

everything about the guy was up for grabs and debate.. and you can bet your life that if Obama came out today as a 'Muslim'.. he'd be questioned ad naseum on his plan to turn us into a Sharia Law country.. because Muslims can't govern without their religion dictating their policy/positions.. unlike extreme jesus freaks. They of course can keep the two separate... *rollseyes*

It'll be given a false *un*-equivalence.  I'm so glad that Franklin Graham opened his yap. It shows this dynamic that's been playing out, continually, behind the scenes...and as of late, in front again. It plays out perfectly to highlight the immunity that (to quote Nutty) the God Warriors feel they wield when it comes to matters of religion/faith.  President Obama ISN'T a Christian, but Newt Gingrich IS.  President Obama can be eternally questioned about his faith, but Rick Santorum is being subjected to religious persecution. It's the kid who pokes you and pokes you and poke you...and when you finally poke him back..."DON'T FUCK'IN TOUCH ME!"

Michael Steele argued that everyone had it wrong.  Rick was using metaphors and that, of course, he'd be using religiously themed language in front of a religious group when referring to politics, the  Government, the country.  I dare ANYONE to watch that talk that he gave and tell me with a straight face that he was engaging in metaphors.  He was talking about a tangible being of evil, Gods arch nemesis, pointing his pitchfork DIRECTLY at America...and using all of the dark arcane powers at his disposal, he's putting the demonic hex on us...OH SHIT!  And worse yet, there are people in the Government helping him...WHAT THE FUCK?!...WE'RE DOOMED!!

David Corn was correct.  How can you work with someone who's OBVIOUSLY doing Satan's bidding? Answer is, you can't. Who's doing Satan's bidding, either knowingly or unknowingly? Whoever disagrees with Rick and the religious right!

As an additional note, I came to this conclusion...

...If there really was a Satan, he wouldn't have to lift a finger. Every right wing extremist does all the work for him, when they over compensate and see_evil in everything around them. He'd just sit back, collect all those wonderfully negative vibes and enjoy an endless buffet of ignorance, done in the name of the God.