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« Reply #90 on: March 18, 2011, 04:19:20 pm »

Judge Maryann Sumi of Dane County issued the order in response to a request by District Attorney Ismael Ozanne (D). As The Associated Press summarized, Ozanne contended that the legislative committee that passed the bill "met without the 24-hour notice required by Wisconsin's open meetings law."

Apparently, according to the US Congress, that's all the rage now. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #91 on: March 20, 2011, 07:52:54 pm »

It was a lie by (go figure) Costello, who (duh) happens to be a Republican State Senator (or whatever). Not you. Although I do implicitly blame the N-J, in their newly christened Teabagger-Libertarian philosophy of perpetuating that lie. This was, as opposed to the last piece you published from the N-J a news story, not an opinion piece.

As a purveyor of news stories, the N-J was remiss in not checking what was quoted as fact (but was, in fact, a lie) by Costello (will he be burning in Reorganized Mormon hell for this lie? Ask him at the next 9/12 meeting.)

But...like Fox News...that's the way they roll now.


The News Journal has been liberal for as long as I can remember.  When did they turn conservative?

But I don't think you are reading the story correctly if you think the 19% was a quote of Costello's.  That's not the way I read it.  That was the writer of the article.



Incorrect. I'm consistent in believing that the 1st Amendment only applies to people, not corporations. I have no idea what you mean about the 2nd Amendment, but that's another discussion.

Funny how you should mention "bridge". Was that a Palin-inspired Freudian Slip? Let's put it this way: If a Libertarian candidate tells you "Vote for me and I'll shut down the government.", you'd vote for him.

I don't understand why a group of people so literal in their philosophy are so obtuse in their philosophy! Do you really think politicians shouldn't promise anything to get elected?


I may have a bit of the idealist in me after all, but I think the promises that politicians make should be promises to be good stewards over the resources they have responsibility for and to promise things that benefit the entire body politic.  Your view seems to be that it's OK to buy votes.  Now who benefits the most from that?  Obviously the people who sell their votes benefit some, but the politicians are the main beneficiaries.



Of course you don't.  Roll Eyes

The answer to that question is in here too.

I'm still waiting on a response to this:


There wasn't a question in that, so I'm not sure what kind of response you are looking for.
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« Reply #92 on: March 20, 2011, 08:10:08 pm »

The News Journal has been liberal for as long as I can remember.  When did they turn conservative?

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« Reply #93 on: April 05, 2011, 05:37:22 pm »

No comment.

I forgot all about this. Sorry. The N-J last year was bought by one "Halifax Media". It's taken on a tone far different than liberal...

After originally calling me to say they were publishing my reply to the Costello article, the N-J apparently changed their mind when I asked them if they would "clarify" Costello's 19% claim.  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #94 on: April 05, 2011, 09:01:54 pm »

I forgot all about this. Sorry. The N-J last year was bought by one "Halifax Media". It's taken on a tone far different than liberal...

After originally calling me to say they were publishing my reply to the Costello article, the N-J apparently changed their mind when I asked them if they would "clarify" Costello's 19% claim.  Roll Eyes



I thought they did publish your letter?  Or are you referring to another letter?
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« Reply #95 on: April 05, 2011, 09:07:51 pm »

I thought they did publish your letter?  Or are you referring to another letter?

Maybe they did. I just don't remember seeing it after they called.
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« Reply #96 on: April 08, 2011, 09:26:11 am »

At one time I thought Florida was headed to garner the title for Most Corrupt State in the Union.

Not anymore...

It's Definitely Wisconsin!

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CHICAGO — The tally of a close Wisconsin Supreme Court election, which had come to be a referendum on Republican leadership in the state, turned upside down on Thursday evening: the incumbent justice, viewed as a conservative, took a lead of more than 7,000 votes after a clerk in one Republican-leaning county announced she had initially failed to report some 14,000 votes.

“Wisconsin voters as well as the Kloppenburg for Justice Committee deserve a full explanation of how and why these 14,000 votes from an entire city were missed,” said Melissa Mulliken, the campaign manager for JoAnne Kloppenburg. Ms. Kloppenburg declared victory over Justice Prosser on Wednesday when an unofficial vote count showed her with a 204-vote lead out of more than 1.4 million cast.

The margin had shifted slightly several times Thursday as local election officials began reviewing their counts, a process that may still change the margin in the days ahead. But the disclosure of overlooked votes from Waukesha County, a Republican, suburban stronghold near Milwaukee, was a dramatic swing.

The Waukesha County clerk, Kathy Nickolaus, said she had failed on election night to save votes from Brookfield in her computer, according to The Associated Press. The result: 10,859 more votes for Justice Prosser, who won strong support from Republicans, and 3,456 more for Ms. Kloppenburg, an assistant state attorney general.

According to The A.P., Ms. Nickolaus was granted immunity in 2002 in a criminal investigation into illegal acts by members of the Republican Caucus in the State Assembly, where she had worked as a data analyst and computer specialist. Before being appointed to the court in 1998, Justice Prosser served as a Republican in the Assembly, and rose to be speaker.

“We’ve always maintained faith in the voters and trust the election officials involved in the canvassing will reaffirm the lead we’ve taken,” Justice Prosser said.
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« Reply #97 on: April 08, 2011, 09:31:37 am »

At one time I thought Florida was headed to garner the title for Most Corrupt State in the Union.

Not anymore...

It's Definitely Wisconsin!
 

There's more to this story.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=TMciAAAAIBAJ&sjid=pkUEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4622,3020939&dq=kathy+nickolaus&hl=en

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=QroaAAAAIBAJ&sjid=R0UEAAAAIBAJ&pg=1857,2929880&dq=kathy+nickolaus&hl=en

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=ezYqAAAAIBAJ&sjid=S0UEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5002,1596023&dq=kathy+nickolaus&hl=en

http://www.wisdc.org/index.php?module=wisdc.websiteforms&cmd=searchadvanced&filter=+Search+&contributor_name=Nickolaus%2C+Kathy&CTGTZO=-360&CTGTZL=-360
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« Reply #98 on: April 08, 2011, 10:16:15 am »

OOps, I just happened to find more votes on my personal computer that,even over past objections, is in my office at my insistence..

yeah, could you image if this was a dem?
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« Reply #99 on: April 08, 2011, 10:26:21 am »

OOps, I just happened to find more votes on my personal computer that,even over past objections, is in my office at my insistence..

yeah, could you image if this was a dem?

Believe it or not, it gets worse. From lilMike's favorite website:

http://thinkprogress.org/2011/04/07/prosser-hires-bush-v-gore-recount-lawyer-who-claims-gop-opposes-equal-protection/

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As a key sign of just how much Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice David Prosser’s corporate supporters are willing to spend to keep him on the bench, Prosser’s campaign just announced its hire of one of the most high-profile election lawyers in the country — Bush v. Gore recount attorney Ben Ginsberg. Ginsberg, who also spearheaded former Sen. Norm Coleman’s (R-MN) unsuccessful legal team in the 2008 Minnesota recount, is not simply known for his key role in two high profile elections. Ginsberg is also a victim of his own unintentional honesty. In a 2006 speech at Duke Law School, Ginsberg made a surprising admission about what the GOP really thinks about voting rights:
 

A quick note on perhaps the most interesting issue that came up [during Bush v. Gore] as we dealt with it, and that was Equal Protection . … Now, just like really with the Voting Rights Act, Republicans have some fundamental philosophical difficulties with the whole notion of Equal Protection.

And more on the election "fraud". (I thought I'd put that in quotes, cuz, you know...)

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In the most bizarre twist in an election filled with bizarre twists, an elections official claims to have found more than 13,000 new votes in a highly Republican county, giving Prosser a more than 7000 vote lead. The official, who is a former GOP staffer, also has a long history of voting irregularities.
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« Reply #100 on: April 08, 2011, 10:57:11 am »

Believe it or not, it gets worse. From lilMike's favorite website:

http://thinkprogress.org/2011/04/07/prosser-hires-bush-v-gore-recount-lawyer-who-claims-gop-opposes-equal-protection/

And more on the election "fraud". (I thought I'd put that in quotes, cuz, you know...)


if when this goes to court, the right will be screaming about  the judge who will decide who hears the recount case... why? Because the judge making that decision will be the one Prosser called a 'total bitch' and promised to 'destroy'..HA!
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« Reply #101 on: April 08, 2011, 10:59:56 am »

if when this goes to court, the right will be screaming about  the judge who will decide who hears the recount case... why? Because the judge making that decision will be the one Prosser called a 'total bitch' and promised to 'destroy'..HA!

BUT, the left will get to scream also if Wisconsin law doesn't force Prosser to recuse himself from deciding his own SC recount case.. Wink

ahhh gotta love a good cluster fuck that isn't ours. Grin
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« Reply #102 on: April 19, 2011, 08:05:08 pm »



http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/04/19/gov-walker-planning-financial-martial-law-in-wisconsin/
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« Reply #103 on: April 19, 2011, 08:12:11 pm »


Wow. And they call us commies?

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"[T]he Walker legislation would empower the governor to insert a financial manager of his choosing into local government with the ability to cancel union contracts, push aside duly elected local government officials and school board members and take control of Wisconsin cities and towns whenever he sees fit to do so," according to Forbes.
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« Reply #104 on: May 19, 2011, 10:42:05 am »

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DAVID DOUGHERTY, TRNN: Around 1,000 people gathered in Times Square in New York City on Tuesday, May 17, to demonstrate against the Marshall & Ilsley Corporation, known as M&I Bank. Many firefighters and other public workers traveled from Wisconsin to New York City to protest the financial meeting which officially sold Wisconsin's largest bank to Toronto-based BMO bank, which also runs Harris Bank in the Midwest. M&I shareholder meetings are usually held at the company's headquarters in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, but this morning it took place in New York, in a move that many opponents viewed as an attempt by executives to avoid mass protest. The bank has come under attack in recent months for supporting Governor Scott Walker's agenda to attack public workers and services. M&I was the top contributor in Walker's bid for governor in 2010, contributing $54,000 to his political campaign. M&I Bank was the recipient of $1.7 billion in TARP federal bailout funds. The company has yet to pay the bailout money back, though BMO has agreed to pay the debt as part of the takeover deal. Tuesday's meeting was brief, reportedly lasting less than ten minutes, with no time allotted for statements or discussion. In spite of bonus limitations set in place due to the company's nearly $2 billion taxpayer-dollar debt to the federal government, company executives are set to receive a $71 million bonus payout as part of the agreement. M&I CEO Mark Furlong will be paid an $18 million golden parachute severance payment, and will serve as president and CEO of the newly merged BMO-Harris Bank in Chicago. In addition to the numerous protests that have taken place at M&I locations across Wisconsin in recent months, a number of other large banks have also become targets of demonstrations. Earlier this month, hundreds of people gathered in San Francisco, California, to protest a Wells Fargo shareholder meeting, while this week, hundreds more held a demonstration at the annual JPMorgan Chase shareholder meeting in Columbus, Ohio. In Wisconsin, a movement has grown to boycott M&I banks by withdrawing accounts and moving them to different banks as a response to the bank's role in Walker's attacks on collective bargaining and public services. The Wisconsin state AFL-CIO union became the latest of many organizations to join the movement, when they announced the closure of their $105,000 account with M&I on May 5. In the face of ongoing budget cuts targeting public workers and education, people across the country continue to demand that large banks bailed out with taxpayer money pay for the financial crisis they themselves helped to create. This is David Dougherty with The Real News Network.

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