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« on: April 12, 2012, 06:00:23 pm »

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Democratic Strategist Hilary Rosen generated instant bipartisan criticism Wednesday night for her statement that Ann Romney has “actually never worked a day in her life.”

The reaction on Twitter from high level politicos was instant and virtually unanimous: Rosen had gone too far.

What's wrong with that? Ann Romney has no idea what working women, or for that matter, stay at home moms do.

Oops: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/12/democrats-comment-about-ann-romney-creates-firestorm-on-twitter/
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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2012, 10:04:57 am »

while it's taken 'in context' correctly, it's been overblown as if she didn't clarify her meaning immediately after the 'oops'


actually never worked a day in her life.”


was followed by, and has been largely ignored just so Fox can get their panties is a twist, with.. "“She’s never really dealt with the kinds of economic issues that a majority of the women in this country are facing in terms of how do we feed our kids, how do we send them to school and how do we — why we worry about their future.”

and she's correct, Ann Romney hasn't worked a day in her life and gone through this.. That's not say being a mother isn't work, it is.. but this person has not gone even a smidgen on what working mothers go through..

I don't believe Hil was disparaging stay-at-home moms in anyway, unlike Fox who has done but fuel that bogus fire in an attempt to take the spotlight off their and their party's 'war on women' campaign.. I believe she was saying exactly what she said, Mitt is saying he gets his economic opinion input from his wife, well wtf? She hasn't worked, *outside the home* (what Hil should have quantified), a day in her wife/mother life, so how can Mitt give her economic input and give it any real weight? It'd be like taking my input on the intricacies of the Stock Exchange and using that as a 'governing' concept..

was is a bad remark taken by itself? yeah.. she should have quantified it better to get through that she was talking about a 9-5 job/work...yes..  was it an attack on Ann Romney, not in the least.. not even a teeny-tiny bit.. Is it being exploited as it's the new Watergate scandal? Of course.  The left forgets from time to time that they must be on their toes 100% of the time, any tiny misstep will be exaggerated and exploited as some kind of treason or attack or racism all in order to give the Right an "AHA! SEE..." to use as a shield as they go about destroying personal freedoms,science,intelligence, and general order..

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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2012, 11:06:23 am »

What's wrong with that? Ann Romney has no idea what working women, or for that matter, stay at home moms do.

Oops: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/12/democrats-comment-about-ann-romney-creates-firestorm-on-twitter/

That is not fair. She has like 5 kids and I have not read of any trouble that those children have caused. She must have done something right.  
So what, she is rich, that does not make her any less of a mother. Should they live in a tent and renounce all their money that was available to them? Shit if I had Romney money, I would not expect my wife to work either. What is Ann going to do, bring home maybe 45k a year. It is idiotic to think she needs to work, to define her as a women.
 My babies momma does not work but I know what she does and consider what she does as work. She is a stay at home mom.  


This is a non issue. I do like the right trying to make calling a women a stay at home mom, worse than calling one a slut.
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2012, 11:46:49 am »

Good point Nutty
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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2012, 07:17:20 pm »

Just being a dick here...but the Federal Government, under any administration, has NEVER recognized Stay at Home Moms, as work.  You can't collect benefits for being a stay at home mom, even though it's been pretty much a cornerstone of right leaning ideology that they should be ready with the slippers and have food on da table, kids sitting and ready, when hubby gets home.  The fact that women spend 18 PLUS years of their life raising individuals that will (for the most part) be contributors to society and are only trotted out when cranked up political bombshells are needed...doesn't change the fact that when this all fades away...they'll have been no advancement or more awareness of a positive nature given to *Moms*.  It's just a political numbers game.

With that said, being a Mom, part time or full time, is thankless, taxing, and rewarding.  I know I watched my Dad's fuckin brain melt when an injury saw him at home for 4 months...and my mom went to work so they wouldn't have to dip into their savings.  The millisecond he got cleared for work by his doctor, he was out of the house so fast, he was a blur of halle-fuckin-lujah.

What Rosen said was poorly worded, even though I got what she was saying the second it came out of her mouth. I cringed a little and I KNEW it would be taken as an assault on "Moms."  My Mom agreed...but she too understood what Rosen was trying to relay...and she agreed with Rosen.  Ann Romney has never experienced the struggle involved, when economic impairments bar or impede your child from medication, food, clothing, school supplies, toiletries, access to even a low grade home pc (which is such a big part of schooling now), and a myriad of other NON-essentials that you would LIKE for your child to have...nothing fancy...just something to bring a smile to your kids face.

I'm sure Ann Romeny was/is a really great Mother.  She strikes me as an individual who dedicated herself to her and Mitt's children's well being with all great due attention and love.

But Rosen is absolutely correct when she stated that Ann has zero concept of what a woman goes through in the work force...and how the economy affects them on so many levels, ESPECIALLY with children.  I would take little confidence in, as a woman, Ann Romney being an advocate on my part...for Women in the work place and Mothers in the work place.
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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2012, 08:41:13 pm »

I couldn't have said it better Chuck. My initial knee jerk reaction was one of a maid doing the job of raising five boys but in all actuality, the exact same thing happened in my family; and I still think my mother, as a military mom shuffling us around the world, did an outstanding job.
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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2012, 09:17:39 pm »

That is not fair. She has like 5 kids and I have not read of any trouble that those children have caused. She must have done something right.  
So what, she is rich, that does not make her any less of a mother. Should they live in a tent and renounce all their money that was available to them? Shit if I had Romney money, I would not expect my wife to work either. What is Ann going to do, bring home maybe 45k a year. It is idiotic to think she needs to work, to define her as a women.
 My babies momma does not work but I know what she does and consider what she does as work. She is a stay at home mom.  

do you really think that that's what HR was saying? That 'moms' don't work? I think Fox took that snip and made it into that. I don't think that was where she was going at all..




This is a non issue. I do like the right trying to make calling a women a stay at home mom, worse than calling one a slut.


HA!  dude, Rush's is even saying "If I had a daughter, she'd look like Anne"... wtf are wrong with these people that  they will use a child's death that way.. I mean, I get that since Obama said something about it they MUST be on the other side.. but really?

ugh..

But finally, you gotta love Barbara Bush's comment on the matter..


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The effort pulled in some of the biggest names in the party, including former first lady Barbara Bush, a Romney backer and wife of former President George H.W. Bush.

Raising five boys is a handful, trust me,” she said in a phone interview with Fox News yesterday. “Raising George Walker was not easy,” referring to her son who preceded Obama as president.

HA!
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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2012, 12:57:02 am »

I should clarify something I said. I pulled a Rosen, damnit.

When I said "part time or full time Mom", I should have denoted that part time was in reference to a full time Mom who also works.  Because whether a mother works 20 or 40 hours a week, she's always on Mom duty.
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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2012, 12:25:15 pm »

I watched Hannity the other night, and I copied this down because it was so... ridiculous..

He started off the show with a graphic of a pic of Obama, with the words "Obama's War on women" and then he started it off with

"tonight, more fallout after a PROMINENT democrat with CLOSE TIES to the Obama white  house, criticized Anne Romney for being a stay at home mom"


really Sean? Really Fox? Now she's a 'prominent' dem with 'close ties' to Obama.. AND she criticize AR for being a stay at home mom?

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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2012, 02:27:09 pm »

It always get's ratcheted up to the next level.  Most times it's subtle over a week or two, other times you can see a leap like a howler monkey on crack.

I do believe, I read somewhere recently that she's been to the white house 35 times.  If true, then I'm quite sure it was mainly for a Hillary Clinton bit of face time, since she was one of her main people during Clinton's 2008 bid. A perk if you will. Plus she was a lobbyist for the recording industry for some years (1987-03)...otherwise...I can't seem to find squat other than her being a pundit and consultant, that would have ANYTHING to do with some ties of a nefarious nature.
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