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War In Libya (It's Real Now, Nutty!)

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« Reply #45 on: May 02, 2011, 08:23:38 am »

So do we actually have common ground on Libya? A man who the US was very friendly to during his reign, giving him roughly 70 billion in aid over his time. As dictator's go, he seems like a pretty good one. He was building infrastructure for his people with the money as well as bringing in water through a very expensive operation.

This is unfortunately happening right now and recent history can't be muddled as the mainstream so often does without giving all the details and asking the right questions. If we could keep it on just the issue of our forces going into a sovereign country which posed no threat to us or it's neighbors and not project any agenda onto the other it would be beneficial.

I believe one of the strong rationalizations was that he was going to bomb or did bomb a particular bunch of the resistance and/or innocent people and that it couldn't be allowed. Obviously I hate people being killed but it's not a justification that holds any water:

Because A. We don't do it in Africa where people are constant victims of genocide and

B. That's not what the US Armed Forces mission is in the world.

a) we don't have oil interests in africa
b)sometimes it is..

it's glib to say 'it's for oil' but we do get a some oil of it from Libya..   and in Africa, I just don't see any way to end it even with our intrusion..

I'm sure Obama and the rest would have been happy to let it all play out on it's own like it has everywhere else in the Mid-east where the people are rising up.. but this time Ghadaffi threatened to kill everyone in sight and the mid-east leaders believed him and asked for our assistance..

there was no good response..

think about it... Obama is literally damned with either choice he makes... Don't get involved and watch 1000's and maybe even 10's of 1000's slaughtered ... for which he would be supremely vilified for and blamed

or

do what can minimally be done and get blamed for using the US military here instead of there..

I can only assume he made the choice that would let him sleep at night.

this is why he was elected.. to make these choices. He made it, it's working out OK so far.. let's see how it eventually plays out.

what choice would you have made?
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