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« on: September 20, 2012, 12:12:14 pm »

The right wing is smirking away with an old clip of future President Obama in 1998 advocating "redistribution" that Breitbart picked up in a trashcan somewhere and posted yesterday.

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In a newly-discovered video, Barack Obama, at a 1998 conference at Loyola University in Chicago, said he believed in "redistribution" to "make sure that everybody's got a shot."

Obama said the "notion government action can be effective" needed to be resuscitated and conceded that the failures of the Chicago Housing Authority and the Chicago public school system made people less inclined to have faith in government.

"The trick... is figuring out how do we structure government systems that pool resources and, hence, facilitate some redistribution, because I actually believe in redistribution, at least at a certain level, to make sure that everybody's got a shot," Obama said.

Naturally, this was taken out of context

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Mitt Romney's campaign this week has pounced on a 14-year-old clip of Obama speaking about "redistribution" in October 1998 at a conference in Chicago, in which the future president seems to extol the virtues of redistributing wealth.

Yet NBC News has obtained the entirety of the relevant remarks, which includes additional comments by Obama that weren't included in the video circulated by Republicans. That omission features additional words of praise for "competition" and the "marketplace" by the then-state senator.

In the whole clip, Obama says:

   "I think the trick is figuring out how do we structure government systems that pool resources and hence facilitate some redistribution because I actually believe in redistribution, at least at a certain level to make sure that everybody's got a shot.  How do we pool resources at the same time as we decentralize delivery systems in ways that both foster competition, can work in the marketplace, and can foster innovation at the local level and can be tailored to particular communities."

Obama continues in a few words after that to describe the use of tax credits in setting public housing development policy in Chicago as an example before concluding.

The video circulated by Republicans, which has used as fodder for an attack on Obama, includes a longer reflection by Obama about talking about how government action can be effective. But the clip has been cut short after the word "shot;" Obama's words about competition, the marketplace and innovation are omitted from the clip.


Then we have this clipped video from earlier this week:



Yup. More taking out of context.

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In this case, here's what the president actually said: "I'll cut out government spending that's not working, that we can't afford, but I'm also going to ask anybody making over $250,000 a year to go back to the tax rates they were paying under Bill Clinton, back when our economy created 23 million new jobs, the biggest budget surplus in history and everybody did well. Just like we've tried their plan, we tried our plan -- and it worked. That's the difference. That's the choice in this election. That's why I'm running for a second term."

He was comparing tax policies -- Clinton-era tax rates vs. Bush-era tax rates. The RNC simply omitted the part of the quote that makes clear what the president was talking about. Weigel accurately calls this "insanely misleading."

That's true, but let's also not lose sight of the larger pattern.

As we discussed last week, at this point in the race, Republicans aren't just occasionally taking Obama quotes out of context; they're actually building their entire 2012 campaign strategy around sentiments the president didn't actually say. I've honestly never seen anything like it.

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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2012, 12:24:35 pm »

Maddow had a great breakdown the other night on how Fox really is the mouth piece for the Romney campaign.. every single 'analyst/expert' they have on.. like the 'foreign policy' expert who will discuss Obama's devastating foreign policy, the 'terror-expert' who will discuss how Obama is making us weak and how he's a Muslim, their 'economist' who will tell you  that Obama is killing this country on purpose by killing the job creators and middle-class.. etc etc etc.. are all.. ALL.. Romney advisers for what they are on Fox advising about..

and not single one admits they are on the Romney campaign as his advisers..

I watch Anderson Cooper alot and he always has Paul Begala on for the 'dem' side of the argument and BOTH of them always mention he's working for the Obama super-pac.. Cooper intro's him with that title and Begala himself says "As you know, I work for the Obama campaign so yes I agree with......"  even tho he's also a pretty awesome  consultant for the (D)..

I know I shouldn't be surprised by Fox.. but I was.

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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2012, 01:21:30 pm »

It's literally (at least to me) an abuse of Free Speech.  I said this a long time ago...but if you edit out context, you're being an agenda'ed douche bag.  I can understand editing for matters of time constraint...but you can still deliver the piece you snipped in context.  It's very basic.  Fox seems to literally have no frigg'in shame...at all.  The truth isn't just manipulated.  It's cut up, shuffled around, and put back together in a way that barely resembles it's former self...and sometimes...it doesn't resemble what it was at all.

I swear to God I'd love to see someone do a Dicken's like rip off and have the ghost of Edward R. and Cronkite come back and haunt the living hell out of all the people who shit on the truth for money and ideology.
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