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I thought Paul Ryan was the smart one?

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« on: March 12, 2013, 10:46:53 am »

All I hear, over and over, is that Paul Ryan is the grand GOP smart leader.. he's the future. He's the one to watch. It's his ballgame and we're all just spectators..

so if the presidential ticket you're on runs on a certain theme in 2012, and loooses the pop vote by a landslide... is it smart to come back with a re-vamped theme that is much more painful than the one that was wholly shutdown 6 months earlier?

I guess the 'brain of the GOP' is a really low bar..


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And judging by the budget he just released, the "how" here is pretty darn important. The budget will be balanced, if Ryan gets his way, through a campaign of thoroughgoing class warfare aimed at Americans in the bottom half of the income distribution in order to protect the interests of a small high income minority.

Ryan's plan starts, like all good GOP deficit reduction plans, with a giant tax cut. Specifically he wants to replace the current progressive rate structure with a two-rate structure—10 percent and 25 percent. If you're currently an individual paying a 39.6 percent marginal tax rate on your income over $400,000 that's an enormous tax cut. If you're currently an individual paying a 25 percent marginal tax rate on your income of $70,000 a year you may wonder what's in it for you here. The answer is, most likely, higher taxes.

We went through this when Mitt Romney and Ryan were running for president, but the proposal here is to make the enormous rate cut for the highest earners affordable through unspecified tax reform. Since the tax reform is unspecified, it's difficult to say exactly what the consequences of it would be. But a 2012 report for Brookings by Samuel Brown, William Gale, and Adam Looney found that Romney/Ryan-style tax reform (PDF) would result in higher taxes for most families earning less than $100,000 a year. I'm sure DC's eager think tankers will be re-running the numbers on this relative to the updated policy baseline later today so I'll update you.

Beyond lower taxes on the rich and higher taxes on the middle class you can expect cuts in programs for the poor. Medicaid expansion? Repealed. The Affordable Care Act will offer sliding-scale subsidies to anyone earning less than 400 percent of the Federal Poverty Level (that's $45,960 for an individual, $78,120 for a family of three) to help you buy health insurance. That's going to be repealed. For those currently enjoying Medicaid benefits, Ryan will "provide states flexibility on Medicaid"—which is to say flexibility to rescind your eligibility for Medicaid. If you're on food stamps, Ryan will "allow states to customize SNAP to address the needs unique to their citizens"—which is to say allow them to cut benefits and eligibility. There's also some Pell Grant cuts in there and, of course, overall cuts to the domestic discretionary budget.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/03/12/class_war_budgeting_paul_ryan_and_house_gop_want_more_money_for_the_rich.html

record highs on wall street means money is whose pocket? mine, yours... Trumps? BUt let's not tax Trump, he's a maker.. we're just the takers of his hard earned wealth.

HSBC launders money for  the cartel and Iran and nothing happens because they have too much money and it would hurt them to punish them... we, otoh, get pulled over with a dime bag and go to jail for 7 days until the family can get bail money, of course losing our $7.75 a hour minimum wage,no healthcare job while being incarcerated those 7 days.. and that's justice at work.

an election decided with blaring red  letters that we not only want more income equality, but when asked on the campaign trail for months leading up to the election, should the rich pay more, the resounding nation-wide answer was YES! and congress stalls any attempt of democracy to actually work.. and instead try to implement the ideas from the party that was trounced in the election.

instead of jobs bill, we get abortion-banning  bills... instead of high taxes on the 1% we get sequestration furloughs for low-paid workers. instead of dampening healthcare costs they sky-rocket into the stratosphere and GOP governors dig in and not just refuse to take the money that would pay for the health of their poorest workers,but cut their aid as well..


which fucking party won the election again?

if that list doesn't scream what needs to happen in the 2014 mid-terms.. doesn't scream it loud enough to make it happen.. we are going to slide into Greece, just like the GOP planned on all along..

I've never seen such clueless-ness from a party before. clueless-ness pushed front and center by a splinter group from the whole.. while the rest of the party cowers like frightened school children...I always thought the Dems were pussies. The main-stream GOP is really re-defining that position aren't they?... well,  that's not totally fair since the Dems are too fucking scared to fight back as well... but atleast we know they've always been the pusses, so there's that.

 I guess I should give Paul Ryan some credit for smarts... included in his 'austerity for you,money-money-money for Trump' budget bill is the 'repeal Obamacare' section.. meaning, if a single GOP'er doesn't like Paul's plan tough shit sherlock, you can't vote against it.. because if you do then you just voted to keep Obamacare and now they'll primary you for it.


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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2013, 12:34:47 pm »


I've never seen such clueless-ness from a party before. clueless-ness pushed front and center by a splinter group from the whole.. while the rest of the party cowers like frightened school children...I always thought the Dems were pussies. The main-stream GOP is really re-defining that position aren't they?... well,  that's not totally fair since the Dems are too fucking scared to fight back as well... but atleast we know they've always been the pusses, so there's that.



Because at the end of the day all these bloody cunts care about is keeping their fuckin cushy part time $174k a year jobs and their perks. Country be dammed.  You know like the healthcare they don't allow the masses to have.  Don't forget about that little pension that averages about $60k now that they are vested in after only 5 years that they get for the rest of their life.  They remind me of spoiled petulant little children that need a kick in the ass, a smack upside their heads, their mouths washed out with soap, and then put to bed early.
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2013, 10:36:08 pm »

The amazing part are all the hell-bent, ideological zealots who are marching right along, like good little zombies, either completely ignorant or purposely ignorant, who seem utterly dismissive of the notion this will stomp a mud hole in their lives, their parents, and their children's lives as well.

"Yea, fuck those lazy assholes! Time for them to take responsibility of their lives!  Wait. What? Me too? But I work hard everyday! I pay my taxes! How am I included in this!?"

Duh, dumb ass.  Those people you thought were lazy assholes because they don't share your same politics? (great way to gauge shit by the way)  Well they're hard working, barely making it families too...just like you.  You thought this would only apply to them...SURPRISE!  Feel that? Didn't think so.  It's the lack of empathy the people you supported, to do this shit, feel for you.  Ta-da! You bought all the bullshit hype.  You just cut your own throat and they're literally laughing all the way to the bank! Oh, the wealthy are wondering if you wouldn't mind closing the door as you let yourself out, they've got friends coming over and they're done with you now.  Now hurry, before any of the guests arrive and see you.  They've got an image to uphold. 
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2013, 12:54:12 pm »

wow.. the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities just slated Ryan's budget with a pretty scathing breakdown and editorial..


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A Display of Courage?

Chairman Ryan has at times received praise for having the courage to propose these policies.  In reality, this budget reflects more of a lack of courage than an abundance of it.

Is it courageous to propose tax cuts but not identify a single tax expenditure to rein in?  Is it courageous to target your deepest cuts on the poorest Americans, who vote in lower numbers and provide little in campaign contributions?  Is it courageous to camouflage hundreds of billions in cuts for the poor and disadvantaged in broad budget categories without identifying the programmatic cuts, so that analysts, journalists, and other policymakers can’t identify the specific cuts and assess their impacts?

What stands out, above all else, is Chairman Ryan’s unwillingness to propose anything that would upset his party’s base of supporters or, in particular, its ideological opposition to any revenue increases.

Paul Ryan is a smart and engaging individual.  But, make no mistake:  his budget is extreme.  And, in its reverse Robin Hood policies, its ideological rigidity, and its calculated vagueness, it sadly reflects some of the worst features of American politics at this crucial time.

the whole thing is here http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3920
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