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IBM dumping retirees on Obamacare Exchanges

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« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2013, 12:02:23 pm »

Right, and that needs fixing, it could be addressed without the entirety of Obamacare.  That's what I mean by bulldozing a house to fix the roof.



but it wasn't.. for decades it wasn't and it finally built up to the critical mass we have today.

Obamacare isn't the 'end all be all' but it is the start that was needed to fix everything that is wrong with the healthcare system in this country.

The absolute insane part of all this argument over Obamacare is the idea that every country in the world with some kind of gov't health or mix if Gov't/Private system...can do it but we can't.... that somehow, we, being the supposed 'greatest country in the world', the 'shining city on the hill'.. whose 'beacon guides everyone'... we can't figure out how to do what these other countries have figured out how to do and have been doing for years.... it's obscene. ... no, it's not obscene its utter bullshit.  The truth is the only reason there is an argument here is because the insurance lobby is afraid of losing it's cash cow.. so they've made the relative non-argument 'do people deserve better' into THE number one polarizing issue in this country.. This was the issue that ripped the country apart and created the Tea Party and made extremism 'popular'.. Obama being elected stunned them, him passing the ACA made them lose their shit... and the healthcare machine went nuts with it's insane hyperbole.. and that insanity has done more damage than the ACA will ever do..


why? because a few people know that when the entire country realizes that there really isn't a need for a profit-drive insurance industry to control healthcare.. then they're going to be fucked out of their billions and billions of dollars and their multi million dollar bonuses..

this has nothing to with 'libertarian v socialism'.. that's a myth that's been perpetrated by billion-dollars companies... it's about the bank accounts of a cpl of powerful companies and the CEO's who run them.. they just have a better PR team and they've made everyone believe it's all about 'freedom' and the 'loss of it'.. Because if it gets out that it's really about having to pay $500 for an ER visit for a kid with strep throat, they know they're fucked..
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