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47 CRIMINALS. THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE!

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« on: March 10, 2015, 06:27:47 pm »

Lock them up. Put them before the firing squad. While America's teabaggers are making a mountain out of a molehill over Hillary's emails, I present you the real scandal.

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“Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.”

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The Logan Act was named for Dr. George Logan, a  Pennsylvania state legislator (and later US Senator) who engaged in semi-negotiations with France in 1798 during the Quasi-War.

In United States v. Curtiss-Wright Export Corp. (1936), Justice Sutherland wrote in the majority opinion:

[T]he President alone has the power to speak or listen as a representative of the nation. He makes treaties with the advice and consent of the Senate; but he alone negotiates. Into the field of negotiation the Senate cannot intrude, and Congress itself is powerless to invade it.
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2015, 10:13:16 pm »

It was pretty unbelievable. No one who signed that letter is qualified to be president - and I include Ted Cruz and Rand Paul who signed it.

I don't know if it was criminal. But it was amazingly stupid, and politics is stupid enough without having one of them in charge.

They should all lose their seats, but we know voters aren't too smart either.
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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2015, 01:54:24 pm »

I saw comments, like Stewarts on the Daily Show last night, that showed this isn't unique to Republicans, with a look back a Nancy Pelosi meeting with Assad in 2007, going outside normal protocol.

I also saw a bunch of other Dems of note, spanning back over the years, doing likewise. Ted Kennedy, former President Carter when Reagan was Pres, blah blah.  So as I'm researching each instance, I start seeing a pattern. In almost every instance, where the decorum run around occurred, Dems were trying to open lines of communication, broker friendly negotiations, peace.

It was quite the contrast in reasonings. I'm not excusing it, but it makes a whole hell of a lot more sense and an effort of note to try to initiate positive, peaceful dialogue, compared to ole Cotton and his 47 colleagues, who basically hit the ground running with the tone, "Don't trust us. Don't Trust this Pres. or the next one in 2017, whether Repub or Dem. We're gonna fuck you over." Bravo assbags, bravo.

Then Good ole Cotton, less than 24 hours after sending the Open letter, in what I'm sure was just coincidence *coughcough* seems to have a meeting with the defense industry...I'm not kidding...

"Cotton is scheduled to appear at an “Off the Record and strictly Non-Attribution” event with the National Defense Industrial Association, a lobbying group for defense contractors, less than 24 hours after the letter was sent, reported The Intercept.

The first-term senator is known as a foreign policy hawk, particularly on Iran.

Cotton said in December that Congress should consider supplying Israel with B-52 bombers and “bunker-buster” bombs – which are manufactured by NDIA member Boeing – for a possible military strike on Iran.

Other NDIA members include Northrop Grumman, L-3 Communications, ManTech International, Oshkosh Defense, and Booz Allen Hamilton.

The lobbying group’s director of legislative policy said it was “highly likely” that Cotton would discuss the Iran letter during the meeting
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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/03/gop-senator-behind-iran-letter-to-meet-with-defense-industry-lobbyists/

Well, isn't that convenient...and probably not to shabby where campaign donations are concerned. He's a war hawk, plain and simple. And it's not a stretch to imagine this jackoff, and the 47 other signets, are chomping at the bit to get us involved in another bloody theater. Sure Iran has to be watched, sanctioned...but these fuckers who always want to address everything with war first, instead of as an absolute last unavoidable option, are detestable.
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2015, 11:34:49 am »

I saw TDS skit with Nancy too... and agree that there is a difference here.. which of course is, while others may have reached out to foreign leaders..like you said, they didn't reach out with the specific goal of saying "BTW, you can't trust our president.. or in fact any president.. because they simply don't have any power to make agreements for the United States"

I simply can't for the life of me understand how HRC and emails are THE story and this gets 2nd tit.. IDK if the 'non' reaction is an effort to mitigate the damages by way of saying "Look, even the media thinks it's a sham so I guess other countries out there should ignore it too"... of if they just don't have the balls to cover it the same way they're covering Email-gate..

Or it could be the media understands that most of the population are to ignorant to get the nuanced differences in what Pelsoi did in trying to bring negotiations to the table and Cotton did with trying to thwart negotiations by claiming our Presidency has no power..

I will say this... I remember when Pelosi went to Syria and I remember Lil Mike and others arguing that she should be charged against the Logan act.. LOL.. if what she did was treason, I wonder what the same people think of what Cotton and the 47 did..

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