Yes, you were wrong.
I didn't make the Wright connection, Howey did, so don't act like I made up that corollary between the two preachers.
I'm not talking about the 'wright connection'. .. I'm talking about you only addressing the decision Howie made to title his thread 'Hucks Preacher"..your issue has been to argue that point and only that point..
Not quite, but I don't see where this guy is Huck's preacher.
Is this guy Huckabee's minister?
I've never heard of this guy. But you said that he was Huckabee's preacher. So the issue of how crazy or how much of a loon he is is not really relevant to Huckabee unless he's Huck's pastor since there are plenty of crazy preachers running around. If you want to compare him to Wright, and you do since you brought him up, then he has to be someone's preacher. We would have never talked about Wright in 2008 if he hadn't been Obama's preacher for 20 years. So show me Huckabee's preacher, or any major candidates preacher, but for this guy, who gives a fuck?
The subject line made me think you had a real story.
Further digging shows you don't have anything.
Why do you keep dodging around the essential issue? If Wright was just a pastor that Obama had known, that wouldn't be an issue. But Wright was Obama's pastor.
You initially claimed this guy was Huckabee's pastor. He isn't. Game over.
over and over again.. What Huck said, not an issue with you.. whether this guy is nuttier than Wright, not an issue... whether it's a pretty huge story to have a presidential candidate advocating indoctrination of children and forced at gun point to listen to someone extreme visions, again.. not an issue for you.. the only issue is to ignore all of that and harp on whether or not Howies thread title is 100% literal and factual instead of just an easy title to make..
If you didn't think the connection between Wright and Obama, who had a 20 year relationship, sat in the pews of that church, gave Wright credit for leading him to Christianity, dedicated his book to him, and could, "no more disown [Wright] than I can the black community," and "has been like a family to me," (whew) was important then, why do you think Huck and this Preacher is more important now?
I don't seem to remember Obama insisting..
"that children need to be “under his tutelage” and said that every American should be forced “at gun point” to “listen to every David Barton message”: and then saying
"I almost wish that there would be something like a simultaneous telecast and all Americans would be forced, forced — at gun point no less — to listen to every David Barton message. " about Wright even after those 20 years.. But I do remember the Wright/Obama being a huge thing for you.. it was just more proof he was inline with the Bill Ayers terrorists right?
but you can't even agree that this is even important...
What I don't agree with is that this guy is more important to, or has a more comprehensive relationship to Huckabee than Obama/Wright.
can you..
Really? Huck's own words don't prove any of that you?
wait, you haven't even addressed that yet, because you're still on the argument that he's not really Huck's preacher, therefore, since you've proven that literally wrong, you are somehow correct in everything else..
again... you're not...
Why it's important to you guys to establish that link, I don't really know. It's like you are trying to draw your very own Glenn Beck chalkboard of weird connections. Using your logic, Obama must be a commie because of Anita Dunn and Van Jones.
actually it's a discussion that would have lasted about 4 posts had you not continue to argue the title of the thread instead of ignoring the words that came out of Huck's mouth for his vision for America..
so there really was no 'importance'.. just trying to teach you how to engage in an actual conversation with people again, instead of continuing along in the 'kazz-bot' mode you've seem to have fallen in our debate-hiatus..
I don't think Huckabee is even running for President, so your pre-emptive smear seems like a waste of time, but even if I play along, you still have not addressed the REAL issue. The one that I asked about in my last comment which you ignored. What is the relationship with Huckabee and Kooky Preacher?
ok, I'll post the relationship again.. I assumed you caught it the 1st time you read it or even the next time after you said you read it again..
Though he “holds no advanced degrees and does not teach at any legitimate institution,” Barton is no small figure in conservative politics. He was invited by Fox News host Glenn Beck and Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) to teach as a “scholar” on American history. At the conference, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said that “every time he hears Barton speak, he learns something new.” But Right Wing Watch’s Kyle Mantyla captured the most outrageous endorsement yet. Introduced by Barton, Gov. Mike Huckabee (R-AR) insisted that children need to be “under his tutelage” and said that every American should be forced “at gun point” to “listen to every David Barton message”:
HUCKABEE: I don’t know anyone in America who is a more effective communicator [than David Barton.] I just wish that every single young person in America would be able to be under his tutelage and understand something about who we really are as a nation. I almost wish that there would be something like a simultaneous telecast and all Americans would be forced, forced — at gun point no less — to listen to every David Barton message. And I think our country would be better for it. I wish it’d happen.
that is the relationship.. he wants every American, at gun point if necessary, to listen to this guys message..
Are they closer than Obama/Wright?
As close?
Not as close but still tight?
Or, have they met a few times and kooky preacher has been on Huckabees show?
I find it hard to beleive that if Huckabee and Kooky Preacher were as tight as you are implying*, this wouldn't have come out in 2008. Why was this not an issue in 2008, when Hucabee was actually running for President and was the actual number 2 in the Republican Primaries?
*and so far that's what this seems to be, implication and insinuation. Why can't you guys come out and clearly state what you think the relationship is? So far only that he is Huckabee's Wright, which based on the evidence, seems ridiculous.
Oh I think his words speak for themselves on what the relationship is.. as for them being 'close' or only having met a few times? well, with that kind of proclamation he's making, I would hope he'd know something about the guy.. wouldn't you?
are they as close as wright/obama? again, I don't recall Obama, after being as close as you say he was with Wright, ever said anything like this about him, So I just assume Huck's as close, if not closer... wouldn't you?
