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« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2011, 12:29:52 pm » |
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This compulsion of yours to find any sliver of an error, no matter how innocuous or as in this case, a well played tongue and cheek title, so you can claim victory and then move on while ignoring and thus never addressing the actual story is getting a wee bit tiresome.
for Christ sake, address the topic head on for once instead of looking for that error so you can pretend to claim some kind of victory or moral high-ground....
I didn't want this to happen here. Or, knowing Mike as well as we do, not so much. There's oodles of topics started by us that have gone ignored. Mainly because I think the point made was so crystal clear there's no defense of what's been done. Check some of them out. I thought maybe Mike would read one of them, and actually post; "Huh. You're right. That guy's an idiot, regardless of political affiliation, and should have said/done that." You, me, Nutty, and Chuck have all done that to some extent throughout this forum. But not Mike! Instead, silence.
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« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2011, 12:33:28 pm » |
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it look like he was good at hiding some things..
wonder what he's hiding..
Wait. Now that I'm thinking of it...you'll have to go to the muche to find the thread...wasn't it Huckabee's son that was involved in that dog-killing coverup at some kind of camp or something a few years ago?
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« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2011, 01:54:51 pm » |
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Wait. Now that I'm thinking of it...you'll have to go to the muche to find the thread...wasn't it Huckabee's son that was involved in that dog-killing coverup at some kind of camp or something a few years ago?
Michael Vick is Huckabee's son? They look nothing alike.
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« Reply #33 on: April 05, 2011, 02:02:47 pm » |
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I didn't want this to happen here. Or, knowing Mike as well as we do, not so much. There's oodles of topics started by us that have gone ignored. Mainly because I think the point made was so crystal clear there's no defense of what's been done. Check some of them out.
I thought maybe Mike would read one of them, and actually post; "Huh. You're right. That guy's an idiot, regardless of political affiliation, and should have said/done that." You, me, Nutty, and Chuck have all done that to some extent throughout this forum. But not Mike!
Instead, silence.
I'm not afraid of addressing the meat of the issue, but when the thread is titled, "Huckabee's Preacher" and that's in the very first thread, THAT is the meat of the issue. If the guy is a kook, I've no problem saying that. In fact, without doing any research on my own, for the sake of argument, I'll except this guy is every bit as kooky as you guys have stated. However the importance of this story hinges on his relationship to Huckabee. There are no end of kooky preachers. We just had one start an international incident last week. However how this is important to Huckabee is totally dependent on his relationship with him. So comparing him to Wright, which you did, you would expect that they have to have an extremely close relationship, not just one where you are promoting his book on your show. So your intent with this thread was deceptive from the start. I don't care for that. By not addressing my concern that I've posted throughout this thread, I assume you are conceding that no, he isn't really Huckabee's preacher. So then the question is: What sort of relationship does he have with Huckabee? Whatever that search turns up, I'm pretty sure it's not going to turn up anything like a Wright-Obama connection, or we would have heard about in in 2008.
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« Reply #34 on: April 05, 2011, 02:18:56 pm » |
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However how this is important to Huckabee is totally dependent on his relationship with him. May I suggest you go back, read and watch everything within this thread? Michael Vick is Huckabee's son? They look nothing alike.
Dog killing, not dog fighting... 
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« Reply #35 on: April 05, 2011, 09:00:38 pm » |
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May I suggest you go back, read and watch everything within this thread?
Actually I was going to. I went back to the very first thread and what did I find? A Think Progress link! Now, how many of their stories do I need to expose as bullshit before you stop using them as a source?
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« Reply #36 on: April 05, 2011, 09:27:43 pm » |
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Actually I was going to. I went back to the very first thread and what did I find? A Think Progress link!
Now, how many of their stories do I need to expose as bullshit before you stop using them as a source?
Gee, you really hate TP, huh? There's a lot more in this thread that's not from them, including a video of the horse's own words from 19 years or so ago.
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« Reply #37 on: April 06, 2011, 05:45:13 am » |
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Actually I was going to. I went back to the very first thread and what did I find? A Think Progress link!
Now, how many of their stories do I need to expose as bullshit before you stop using them as a source?
Actually, the very first link was to another video of Huckabee professing his love for Barton from Right Wing Watch. Then Think Progress. And Media Matters, HuffPo, then (miraculously!) a video from Huckabee's own show! Sooo....if you wish to dispute sources, give Mike a call!
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« Reply #38 on: April 06, 2011, 09:32:56 am » |
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Actually, the very first link was to another video of Huckabee professing his love for Barton from Right Wing Watch.
Then Think Progress. And Media Matters, HuffPo, then (miraculously!) a video from Huckabee's own show!
Sooo....if you wish to dispute sources, give Mike a call!
just leave it be, he's doing the same thing with the links that he did with the title.. he's looking for errors to call you on instead of addressing the issue. he doesn't want to address the issue for some reason, and you're not going to make him.. no, really.. it's been 3 pages already and nothing but blind eye. Next, he'll bring up your spelling or something just as arbitrary in order to avoid saying anything against the pack.. it's his check-list on how to divert the topic at hand without ever once addressing the issue.. like I said, it's tiresome.
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« Reply #39 on: April 06, 2011, 10:27:30 pm » |
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just leave it be, he's doing the same thing with the links that he did with the title.. he's looking for errors to call you on instead of addressing the issue. he doesn't want to address the issue for some reason, and you're not going to make him.. no, really.. it's been 3 pages already and nothing but blind eye. Next, he'll bring up your spelling or something just as arbitrary in order to avoid saying anything against the pack.. it's his check-list on how to divert the topic at hand without ever once addressing the issue..
like I said, it's tiresome.
No, you're wrong. I've already explained my position, and given you a freebie: That this preacher or whatever he is is as kooky as you guys say he is. So if the issue is not how kooky this guy is (I've given you that), and the issue isn't that this guy's a minister to Huckabee (Howey sorta/kinda admitted that he wasn't), then what is THE ISSUE I'm failing to address? I don't have to play spelling nazi or any other tactic to avoid addressing the issue. You pretended the issue is one thing (Huckabee's minister) than another (he's a nut!), so what else is left? If the best answer you can come up with is go back and read everything again, even though the only issue's any of you has mentioned that this guy is kooky and/or Huckabee's preacher, is the REAL ISSUE some secret I'm supposed to divine? Either tell me what the real issue is or don't, so far you've failed to make me interested in this topic other than to counter your accusations that I'm avoiding it. If it's so important I'm sure Chris Matthews and Lawrence O'Donnell will let me know.
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« Reply #40 on: April 07, 2011, 10:02:40 am » |
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That this preacher or whatever he is is as kooky as you guys say he is. So if the issue is not how kooky this guy is (I've given you that0 See? It's not so hard to agree you're wrong!
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« Reply #42 on: April 07, 2011, 12:40:57 pm » |
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I don't know why, but as I was watching this last night, I was cringing a bit.
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« Reply #43 on: April 07, 2011, 12:49:48 pm » |
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I don't know why, but as I was watching this last night, I was cringing a bit.
I didn't even bother watching it last night because I knew it would be cut short, so I'm going to catch up on it later today..
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« Reply #44 on: April 07, 2011, 04:56:23 pm » |
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See? It's not so hard to agree you're wrong!
No, I do admit I'm wrong when I'm actually wrong. Of course in this case, I've no idea what you're talking about!
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