Wait. Why Did They Leave?

[Howey]

Georgia republicans up in arms over disappearance of field workers, demand their illegals NOW!

Sometimes you just gotta giggle.  Makes me think of an old adage: "Ye reap what ye sow."
 

State officials confirmed Friday that they have started investigating the scope of Georgia’s agricultural labor shortages following complaints that the state’s new immigration enforcement law is scaring away migrant farmworkers.

Gov. Nathan Deal asked for the investigation Thursday in a letter to Agriculture Commissioner Gary Black. Deal wants Black’s department to survey farmers about the impact Georgia’s immigration law, House Bill 87, is having on their industry and report findings by June 10.
 
The labor shortages have sent farmers scrambling to find other workers for their fall harvests. Others are making hard choices about leaving some fruits and vegetables to wilt on their fields.
 
Proponents of HB 87 say people who are in the country legally have nothing to worry about concerning the new law. They hope the law that takes effect July 1 will deter illegal immigrants from coming here and burdening the state’s taxpayer-funded public schools, hospitals and jails.
 
The Georgia Fruit and Vegetable Growers Association has estimated the labor shortages afflicting South Georgia counties could put as much as $300 million in crops at risk. But the full extent of the damage won’t be known until after July, when farmers have finished harvesting their summer crops, including blueberries, watermelons and sweet corn, said Charles Hall, the association’s executive director. When that damage is tabulated, Hall said, it will help farmers decide whether they should plant less for future harvests.
 
Farmers say the Hispanic migrant workers they depend on to pick their fruits and vegetables are bypassing Georgia to work in other states. The workers are concerned they will be harassed or jailed here following the passage of HB 87, the farmers said.

[FooFa]

That's about as clear to me as whether or not man has seriously affected the environment. Is it that gov wants to have their cake and eat it too with immigration? On the one hand they have said they do work that Americans won't do which doesn't apply to me because when I lived in Orlando I was working for Tru Green for a little while and they let me go and brought in some illegals who would work for less money an hour. I had an acquaintance who worked there and that's how I know that.

Is there even a clear text from either side on what they want to have happen with immigration...or is it just a hot potato punching bag that get's knocked around depending on which way the wind is blowing and who's listening to their rhetoric at the time.

[ekg]

Georgia republicans up in arms over disappearance of field workers, demand their illegals NOW!

State officials confirmed Friday that they have started investigating the scope of Georgia’s agricultural labor shortages following complaints that the state’s new immigration enforcement law is scaring away migrant farmworkers.

Gov. Nathan Deal asked for the investigation Thursday in a letter to Agriculture Commissioner Gary Black. Deal wants Black’s department to survey farmers about the impact Georgia’s immigration law, House Bill 87, is having on their industry and report findings by June 10.
 
The labor shortages have sent farmers scrambling to find other workers for their fall harvests. Others are making hard choices about leaving some fruits and vegetables to wilt on their fields.
 
Proponents of HB 87 say people who are in the country legally have nothing to worry about concerning the new law. They hope the law that takes effect July 1 will deter illegal immigrants from coming here and burdening the state’s taxpayer-funded public schools, hospitals and jails.
 
The Georgia Fruit and Vegetable Growers Association has estimated the labor shortages afflicting South Georgia counties could put as much as $300 million in crops at risk. But the full extent of the damage won’t be known until after July, when farmers have finished harvesting their summer crops, including blueberries, watermelons and sweet corn, said Charles Hall, the association’s executive director. When that damage is tabulated, Hall said, it will help farmers decide whether they should plant less for future harvests.
 
Farmers say the Hispanic migrant workers they depend on to pick their fruits and vegetables are bypassing Georgia to work in other states. The workers are concerned they will be harassed or jailed here following the passage of HB 87, the farmers said.

Sometimes you just gotta giggle.  Makes me think of an old adage: "Ye reap what ye sow."
 

That is such bullshit... it's the uninsured period who are burdening the hospitals.. fucked up laws against a 1/2 a joint screwing the the jails and governors habits of raping the schools to pay for their pet projects that are screwing up the school..

we need to admit that all our woes aren't because of illegal brown people.

[Howey]

we need to admit that all our woes aren't because of illegal brown people.

Or legally elected black folks. 

[uselesslegs]

I've said it before...but, we'll go down in flames before any of our woes are actually addressed...or should I say before we "let them" be addressed.  It won't be while our current President is in office.  No fixes of the scales needed will be permitted while Obama presides over the executive branch.

I view it as two fold.  One, the good ole boys can't and won't acknowledge or allow Obama to be associated with any legislation or policy that even remotely puts a glimmer of positivity towards him as President.  Can't happen, they won't let it...regardless of the consequences....LITERALLY...regardless of the consequences.

Two, Obama himself is to placating in nature.  To gentlemanly, to passive in many regards...to self aware of what would happen if he pulled a Teddy Roosevelt or FDR and "actually" addressed our economic woes with guns blazing.  The current climate, as vitriolic and pensive as it is towards him now, would explode.  He's more or less stuck playing passive mediator to keep a bunch of spoiled, ignorant and self entitled assholes from going ballistic and taking what's left of this countries stability to hell...just to show Obama...who's REALLY in charge.  I have absolutely no doubt, nor I imagine does he, of the precarious perch he's sitting on and the ripple affects his actions have.  He's the most powerful man in the world, who is held hostage from fully using it...so he can keep the tenuous peace.

I do, however, take pleasure from being almost 100 percent sure of the fact that if he wins another term...he'll go balls to the wall.  This is more of a feeling than an educated guess.  Because if he wins again...the people who lost their fuckin minds the last time he won...will go utterly fuckin ballistic and he'll have nothing to lose in a last term.  Add to that the fact that even the most die hard opposition is having an extremely difficult time convincing their base that the country is SUPPOSE to swing EVEN MORE financially in favor of the wealthiest...and the continually growing discontent and reality of REAL LIFE is slowly starting to seem a hell of a lot more important than ideological prejudices or towing party lines.

You can tell me allll daaayyy lonnnggg that I have "no right" to cancer treatment and a myriad of other civilized policies that have been determined to be better suited as "profit based endeavors"...but as I hear and millions of other hear for the first time in their life, "we think you have cancer Mr. So and So"...suddenly a companies ability to profit based on the demise of others or yourself...seems to make no fucking sense at all.

[FooFa]

Is there even a clear text from either side on what they want to have happen with immigration...or is it just a hot potato punching bag that get's knocked around depending on which way the wind is blowing and who's listening to their rhetoric at the time.

This was not editorializing, I'm really curious and thought those more immersed with an interest in party politics might have an answer or opinion.




eta:unplanned psychotic episode of the year

[Howey]

I've said it before...but, we'll go down in flames before any of our woes are actually addressed...or should I say before we "let them" be addressed.  It won't be while our current President is in office.  No fixes of the scales needed will be permitted while Obama presides over the executive branch.

I view it as two fold.  One, the good ole boys can't and won't acknowledge or allow Obama to be associated with any legislation or policy that even remotely puts a glimmer of positivity towards him as President.  Can't happen, they won't let it...regardless of the consequences....LITERALLY...regardless of the consequences.

Two, Obama himself is to placating in nature.  To gentlemanly, to passive in many regards...to self aware of what would happen if he pulled a Teddy Roosevelt or FDR and "actually" addressed our economic woes with guns blazing.  The current climate, as vitriolic and pensive as it is towards him now, would explode.  He's more or less stuck playing passive mediator to keep a bunch of spoiled, ignorant and self entitled assholes from going ballistic and taking what's left of this countries stability to hell...just to show Obama...who's REALLY in charge.  I have absolutely no doubt, nor I imagine does he, of the precarious perch he's sitting on and the ripple affects his actions have.  He's the most powerful man in the world, who is held hostage from fully using it...so he can keep the tenuous peace.

I do, however, take pleasure from being almost 100 percent sure of the fact that if he wins another term...he'll go balls to the wall.  This is more of a feeling than an educated guess.  Because if he wins again...the people who lost their fuckin minds the last time he won...will go utterly fuckin ballistic and he'll have nothing to lose in a last term.  Add to that the fact that even the most die hard opposition is having an extremely difficult time convincing their base that the country is SUPPOSE to swing EVEN MORE financially in favor of the wealthiest...and the continually growing discontent and reality of REAL LIFE is slowly starting to seem a hell of a lot more important than ideological prejudices or towing party lines.

You can tell me allll daaayyy lonnnggg that I have "no right" to cancer treatment and a myriad of other civilized policies that have been determined to be better suited as "profit based endeavors"...but as I hear and millions of other hear for the first time in their life, "we think you have cancer Mr. So and So"...suddenly a companies ability to profit based on the demise of others or yourself...seems to make no fucking sense at all.

Chuckles...the first part of this post left me deliriously unhappy while the second left me hopeful.

Here's the thing...I'm losing interest in the process. Whether it's because I can predict (quite accurately if you look at some of my old posts here and on the muche) what will happen next or whatever, I'm scared, literally scared (thanks Xanax!) to look at some of the sites I frequent anymore.

Quite honestly, I've lost faith in the American public making rational and intelligent decisions regarding the political process.

[ekg]

Chuckles...the first part of this post left me deliriously unhappy while the second left me hopeful.

Here's the thing...I'm losing interest in the process. Whether it's because I can predict (quite accurately if you look at some of my old posts here and on the muche) what will happen next or whatever, I'm scared, literally scared (thanks Xanax!) to look at some of the sites I frequent anymore.

Quite honestly, I've lost faith in the American public making rational and intelligent decisions regarding the political process.

I've said it once, I said it today and I'll say it again.. Sarah Palin will get elected..

we shouldn't for one second think she couldn't... this country elected GWB twice.. this state elected Rick Scott!  If she runs, she will win..  it's just that simple..

why?

because the American public can't or won't make rational and intelligent decisions..