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« on: July 02, 2011, 10:51:47 am »

So Gov. Binks approved SunRail...most likely after reading the latest polls.

Of course lilMike had to snark in a comment on the muche, knowing full well that with their non-political policy nobody could really reply...

"My unclothed neighbor has made some interesting points, but could someone provide me an example of a rail project in the last 30 years that has come in on it's budget, met its estimated ridership levels, and has brought the economic benefits promised in the preliminary studies?"

"I'll just wait over here."

Your wait is over.

Chicago Metra

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"We applaud Representatives Osterman, May, and all of the elected officials who have helped make Metra a growing success," Huckabay said. "Congress should take their cue and invest more in public transportation, which will increase our energy independence and reduce global warming pollution."

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And less than a year after the opening of its Southeast LRT line, Denver's entire LRT system was reported to be carrying an average of nearly 61,000 rider-trips around the metro area each weekday – 7,000 more rider-trips than RTD expected.

All told, nearly 3 million passengers have ridden the Southeast line since it opened in November 2006, and ridership on that line has already surpassed expectations. In the words of RTD spokesman Scott Reed, "We are already at our projected ridership for the end of the first year of operation."


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With an operating budget of over $350 million, a total budget of over $1.6 billion, and over 3,300 employees, Dallas Area Rapid Transit (DART) is a sprawling 13-city system providing bus, light rail, commuter rail, paratransit, and high occupancy vehicle (HOV) service over a 700 square mile area.  Through 2013, the DART rail system is slated to double in size to 93 miles.  Extensions now in development include the 17.5-mile Northwest Corridor, with a 13-mile branch extending to D/FW International Airport, and another 10.2-mile extension serving the Southeast Corridor.

There's a lot more, including DC, Salt Lake City, LA, and many more...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/08/AR2009030801960_2.html

Of course, Mr. NitPick will come back (or maybe not) and say: "But they didn't blah, blah, blah."

Doesn't matter does it? They all make a profit, right?
 

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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2011, 11:08:52 am »

Boyyyy, that there is future talk!  You some kind of...futurist er sumt'in?
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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2011, 12:15:15 pm »

Boyyyy, that there is future talk!  You some kind of...futurist er sumt'in?

buh....buh...buh....they're not named Orlando so it can't be the same!
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2011, 02:02:11 pm »

I thought Scott was an outsider. This move is very unlibertarian and only done, so the GOP has a glimmer of hope to win Florida in the presidential elections. It is kind of hard to win a state for the GOP when the Gop governors poll numbers trail Satan.

Put me down for the group that thinks this will be a money sink.
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2011, 11:41:12 am »

I thought Scott was an outsider. This move is very unlibertarian and only done, so the GOP has a glimmer of hope to win Florida in the presidential elections. It is kind of hard to win a state for the GOP when the Gop governors poll numbers trail Satan.

Put me down for the group that thinks this will be a money sink.

It may or may not be a money sink. Just depends on who manages it and how. As the links above show, a properly run light rail system works when integrated with buses, trolleys, and high speed rail. In this case LYNX (as well as Votran over here) has, despite increased ridership), cut routes instead of adding them. The Daytona/Orlando connector bus was filled to the brim (thanks Maxwell House!) every day until Votran started cutting back trips.

Stimulus funds help run these systems, adding thousands of full time jobs in the process. When Republican and teabagger legislators and governors started refusing these funds the light rail systems, bus systems, and trolly systems started struggling.

One of the mottos I used in the hotel business while attempting to increase sales was "You gotta spend money to make money."

That phrase is so crucial right now to returning our economy to a healthy state. Yet nobody but a few forward-thinking Democrats realize it...
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