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« Reply #30 on: July 15, 2011, 04:17:56 pm »

I'm disappointed. lilMike would never give in that easy. Wink
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« Reply #31 on: July 15, 2011, 04:24:10 pm »

Since I don't pay taxes theres no reason for me to dislike the fair tax concept. But if you think it was devised to benefit anyone but the rich proponents behind it, you're seriously oot.


liar....


you pay taxes....may not be income taxes...but you pay taxes

they are embedded...

fuel...for example has embedded taxes...along with all other consumables outside of food

do you own your home ?...property taxes

sales taxes...

have anything of value....tangible asset tax

did you retire form the navy ?

were injured in the navy ? and given disability ?

given your 58 years on the planet...how many of the adult working years have been made possible off the tit of the tax payers ?

just curious !!!



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« Reply #32 on: July 15, 2011, 04:43:12 pm »

I'm disappointed. lilMike would never give in that easy. Wink

i have different goals than lilmikey

besides...she has the right to see what whe wants...interput what she sees however she wishes too...

while i don't agree with her...i'm not gonna take a stand to battle to the death over it...fuck that...

she knows what she wrote doesn't make sense...i just have to learn how to navigate this river...

i'll get there....or i won't...but i'll damn sure eat plenty of fish along the way...

the only thing that torked me was the mocking claim...i still don't think i did...and shouldn't it

only be up to usinglessleggs to decide if he was mocked...but i guess she needed to defend him inorder

to balance the lilboh comment...cause according to her mind...i opened the door...great...

so...if the door is opened...then the default position is sling mud...awesome...

the value of what she posted has no more worth to me than the few words i responded with...

and it was all i could do to muster that...first paragraph was facts....hahahahaaaaaaaaaa
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« Reply #33 on: July 15, 2011, 05:08:22 pm »


liar....


you pay taxes....may not be income taxes...but you pay taxes

they are embedded...

fuel...for example has embedded taxes...along with all other consumables outside of food

do you own your home ?...property taxes

sales taxes...

have anything of value....tangible asset tax

did you retire form the navy ?

were injured in the navy ? and given disability ?

given your 58 years on the planet...how many of the adult working years have been made possible off the tit of the tax payers ?

just curious !!!





First. You're filling those shoes quite well, just please drop the name calling, k?

Yes, I do pay sales tax. No, I do not pay income tax, or property tax. Income tax because retirement incomes aren't taxable, property tax because I'm a 100% disabled veteran. Air Force, thankyouverymuch. No real man joins the Navy..
 Wink

Now...this is troubling...

Are you really saying that disabled veterans are living *off the tit*?

Really?Huh??

The men and women who fought for your freedom, and those who supported them in that mission, are as you say, *living off the tit*?

Holden...you owe me, and all of the veterans of this country, an apology.

Postehaste

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« Reply #34 on: July 15, 2011, 07:02:45 pm »



given your 58 years on the planet





WAIT

WTF???

WHY I SHOULD BAN YA RRIGHT NOW...
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« Reply #35 on: July 15, 2011, 09:00:55 pm »

What I will never understand, is this desire to justify, encourage and support the detriment of the nations citizens (any nation's citizens) and by proxy it's economic stability, under (or for) the notion that seeking to enrich exponentially...no limits...somehow has no real consequences within the dynamic of a finite reality.

Unless people are fond of feudal systems, I can't wrap my head around why individuals would support and even help promote the continued downgrade of their own lives.



I  think they do like a feudal system.. not for themselves, but for liberals/progressives/dems. They want to live  the lives they chose, but force those others to live the live they chose for them also. They want to be the overlords.

none of them think it will ever happen to them...End free health care, stop paying people who don't work.. but wait, I didn't mean end my social security and my medicare, or my unemployment.. I meant those other people, you know.. those others..

Stop hurting business with things like minimum wages..but I didn't mean to make me go back to $3 an hour for work, I meant for you to do that to those other people..

get rid of the epa... but hey, you have to keep the water and air clean for me and my land or I cannot survive.

stop the gov't from paying out to local communities hit by natural devastation... But not us, we just lost 3 towns to a tornado and we really need those federal funds..

These are actual argument being made by senators,governor,congressmen, and average people..they want others to be forced to live in a type of system where they themselves are in the hierarchy so they can still get what they want

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« Reply #36 on: July 15, 2011, 09:03:57 pm »


liar....


heh... it's almost like Mike's standing right here.. Cheesy
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« Reply #37 on: July 15, 2011, 09:07:48 pm »

heh... it's almost like Mike's standing right here.. Cheesy

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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« Reply #38 on: July 15, 2011, 09:15:52 pm »

i have different goals than lilmikey

besides...she has the right to see what whe wants...interput what she sees however she wishes too...

while i don't agree with her...i'm not gonna take a stand to battle to the death over it...fuck that...

she knows what she wrote doesn't make sense...i just have to learn how to navigate this river...

i'll get there....or i won't...but i'll damn sure eat plenty of fish along the way...

the only thing that torked me was the mocking claim...i still don't think i did...and shouldn't it

only be up to usinglessleggs to decide if he was mocked...but i guess she needed to defend him inorder

to balance the lilboh comment...cause according to her mind...i opened the door...great...

so...if the door is opened...then the default position is sling mud...awesome...

the value of what she posted has no more worth to me than the few words i responded with...

and it was all i could do to muster that...first paragraph was facts....hahahahaaaaaaaaaa

holy shit dude.. I thought for sure the funny faces would let you know I wasn't being serious and was just playing along with your attempt to play lilmike's part.. my bad.

don't worry, you've aced his role.. totally, you've got it down to a freaking tee..  especially the part where you complain about mud slinging, while slinging mud... awesome is right.

note to self, do not engage BoH... since the 'vaule' of what I say is worth no more than a few of his words anyway..


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« Reply #39 on: July 16, 2011, 03:21:33 am »

WAIT

WTF???

WHY I SHOULD BAN YA RRIGHT NOW...

hmm...i thought you were 58...i thought i read it somewhere...maybe i am wrong

sorry...

as for the name calling...who started with lilboh ?

yes..i called you a liar...in jest

i knew what you meant...but that wasn't what you typed...

i expected you to point out what you had meant...not start with the stop the name calling...sheesh

and i owe the miltary disabled nothing...i just asked a series of questions...you are the one who made a leap...

90 percent of my posts are in jest...

as for EKG...i don't understand smiley faces...i see them...but usually think the person using them are doing it

because they are proud of their thought...i missed a class on etiquette that day i suppose...

while the majority of my posts are in jest...and hard to determine because i don't use smiley faces or 789...

i could see where their would be an issue...

when i first tried to join in here in this area of the bored...howie quickly pointed out i lack facts and this area

appeared to be all about facts...or references that meet qualifications of acceptance...i duly noted that and left...

then...lilmike was ran off...or left...depending on your/my position...so...i decided to to once again play...

but this isn't my playground...i'm out of my element here...now both of you are pissed and i was just looking for

some interaction and fun so you two and chuck wouldn't get bored...and hopefully howie wouldn't shut this place down...

and in one thread i've managed to fuck that up...so...to all and for everything....i am sorry...

farewell...it has been an experience
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« Reply #40 on: July 16, 2011, 01:46:51 pm »

hmm...i thought you were 58...i thought i read it somewhere...maybe i am wrong

sorry...

as for the name calling...who started with lilboh ?

yes..i called you a liar...in jest

i knew what you meant...but that wasn't what you typed...

i expected you to point out what you had meant...not start with the stop the name calling...sheesh

and i owe the miltary disabled nothing...i just asked a series of questions...you are the one who made a leap...

90 percent of my posts are in jest...

as for EKG...i don't understand smiley faces...i see them...but usually think the person using them are doing it

because they are proud of their thought...i missed a class on etiquette that day i suppose...

while the majority of my posts are in jest...and hard to determine because i don't use smiley faces or 789...

i could see where their would be an issue...

when i first tried to join in here in this area of the bored...howie quickly pointed out i lack facts and this area

appeared to be all about facts...or references that meet qualifications of acceptance...i duly noted that and left...

then...lilmike was ran off...or left...depending on your/my position...so...i decided to to once again play...

but this isn't my playground...i'm out of my element here...now both of you are pissed and i was just looking for

some interaction and fun so you two and chuck wouldn't get bored...and hopefully howie wouldn't shut this place down...

and in one thread i've managed to fuck that up...so...to all and for everything....i am sorry...

farewell...it has been an experience

wow... did you just channel Mary K or what?

You were having some fun, I was having some fun back... for whatever reason though, even with the smiley faces that you don't understand, you assumed I was being malicious for malicious' sake.. so how about this, assume otherwise 1st and then jump to I'm just being a bitch.

If you're clearly playing.. then assume I am also clearly playing.. 
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« Reply #41 on: July 16, 2011, 03:08:32 pm »

wow... did you just channel Mary K or what?

You were having some fun, I was having some fun back... for whatever reason though, even with the smiley faces that you don't understand, you assumed I was being malicious for malicious' sake.. so how about this, assume otherwise 1st and then jump to I'm just being a bitch.

If you're clearly playing.. then assume I am also clearly playing.. 

i am but a reflection of all

i can channel anyone i have had experiences with...

and...if acting the part of lilmikey....i have to assume you are being malicious...

i think the maryK comment was totally uncalled for....and reprehensible....that was my first i'm leaving...

there should be at least ten i'm leavings before you can play the maryK card...

is what i would say if i read what you had to say....and we were to have an imaginary conversation
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« Reply #42 on: July 16, 2011, 04:03:20 pm »

there should be at least ten i'm leavings before you can play the maryK card...



Hahahaha!  This is why you're a keeper.
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« Reply #43 on: July 16, 2011, 07:47:42 pm »

Huh. I guess she's reading our forum. Cheesy

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/171807-sheila-jackson-lee-suggests-congress-complicating-debt-ceiling-because-obama-is-black
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« Reply #44 on: July 25, 2011, 07:31:07 am »

well huh... who would have ever thought the dems would give in..  *rollseyes*
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Reid Pitches Final Deficit Deal Without Revenues

WASHINGTON -- After another round of failed negotiations with Republicans over the weekend, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) on Sunday night laid out Democratic leaders' latest — and likely final — proposal for a deficit reduction deal: $2.7 trillion in cuts, a debt ceiling hike through the end of 2012 and no revenues.

The proposal "meets Republicans' two major criteria," Reid said in a statement. It includes enough spending cuts to meet or exceed the amount of a debt ceiling raise through the end of 2012, and it doesn't includes any of the new revenues Democrats have been pushing for.

"We hope Speaker Boehner will abandon his 'my way or the highway' approach, and join us in forging a bipartisan compromise along these lines," Reid said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/24/reid-pitches-final-deficit-_n_908221.html

Of course Bohener will abandon his 'my way/highway/ approach.. you literally gave him everything he asked for and then some.. all spending cuts on the working class and poor and not a single penny from the wealthiest in this country.. what's left to give them? A promise that Obama won't run again in 2012?

who cares that pretty much all economists say that a plan without revenue is destruction waiting to happen... gotta please Grover Norquest and the Tea-people..I guess this means unemployment will go down next month since all those 'job-creators' are getting the much deserved break that they've never had under this president..

I wonder how many more times the GOP  can use them, the 'job-creators' to rape this country while they, the 'job-creators' don't do shit for creating a single job? seems they've been using them for about 3 years now to get their way 100% and they're still not doing anything to help the economy.. so what will be next on the docket? Gotta end Roe V Wade or the 'job-creators' can't create jobs? Got to end the epa so the 'job-creators' can create jobs...?

wait... stupid! I forgot.. I already know this answer... Chuck and I have been talking about it for awhile..

got to end the minimum wage and benefit packages of workers...not too mention abolishing OSHA.. we've no choice.. those 'job-creators' can't create jobs under the stress of having to pay people,insure them and make sure the work-environment is safe... and while we're at it, lets get rid of  that whole 'can't work children' stuff too.. How can the 'job-creator' hire people if they can't hire 12 year olds!!! besides that, how can a family live if their 12 year old is the only one who can get a job, but he isn't allowed to...

think of the kids man.. and let's end all this minimum wage/minimum age stuff..


on a serious note... wtf is the point anymore?
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