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« on: November 11, 2011, 02:51:51 pm »

From the Senate, except some asshole named Jim DeMint.
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2011, 06:53:31 pm »

And here's a very special Fuck You Veterans! from Mitt Romney!

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MAULDIN, SC — Over barbecue and sweet tea with 12 veterans here Friday, Mitt Romney appeared to brainstorm a fundamental change to the way the nation pays back the people who put their lives on the line in the military.

Talking with the veterans about the challenge of navigating the Veterans Affairs bureaucracy to get their health care benefits after they leave active duty, Romney suggested a way to improve the system would be to privatize it.

Sometimes you wonder, would there be someway to introduce some private sector competition, somebody else that could come in and say, you know, each soldier gets X thousand dollars attributed to them and then they can choose whether they want to go on the government system or the private system and then it follows them, like what happens with schools in Florida where they have a voucher that follows them. Who knows.”

The idea is similar to Romney’s plan for Medicare, which wold allow recipients to choose a private plan instead of the classic government-run health care structure.

The plan did not go over well with one veteran among the 12 discussing the VA with Romney. Auston Thompson, a veteran of the Iraq War and former Marine, told TPM after the session that though the idea of the plan was sound to his fiscally conservative ear, the implementation would likely lead to problems.

“Eventually it would become too much of a nuisance,” Thompson said. He doubted a voucher system would cover the benefits like the existing VA system does. “Private health care is already so expensive, you’d need some kind of health care reform to make it work.”

Jerry Newberry, a spokesman for Veterans Of Foreign Wars, told TPM his group has long opposed policies along the lines of Romney’s proposal.

“The VFW doesn’t support privatization of veterans health care,” he said. “This is an issue that seems to come around every election cycle.”

What the fuck is with these Republicans? Do they not want any votes from veterans? Do they not realize that veterans receive the best healthcare anywhere?

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Here's another curious fact. The Annals of Internal Medicine recently published a study that compared veterans health facilities with commercial managed-care systems in their treatment of diabetes patients. In seven out of seven measures of quality, the VA provided better care.

It gets stranger. Pushed by large employers who are eager to know what they are buying when they purchase health care for their employees, an outfit called the National Committee for Quality Assurance today ranks health-care plans on 17 different performance measures. These include how well the plans manage high blood pressure or how precisely they adhere to standard protocols of evidence-based medicine such as prescribing beta blockers for patients recovering from a heart attack. Winning NCQA's seal of approval is the gold standard in the health-care industry. And who do you suppose this year's winner is: Johns Hopkins? Mayo Clinic? Massachusetts General? Nope. In every single category, the VHA system outperforms the highest rated non-VHA hospitals.

Not convinced? Consider what vets themselves think. Sure, it's not hard to find vets who complain about difficulties in establishing eligibility. Many are outraged that the Bush administration has decided to deny previously promised health-care benefits to veterans who don't have service-related illnesses or who can't meet a strict means test. Yet these grievances are about access to the system, not about the quality of care received by those who get in. Veterans groups tenaciously defend the VHA and applaud its turnaround. "The quality of care is outstanding," says Peter Gayton, deputy director for veterans affairs and rehabilitation at the American Legion. In the latest independent survey, 81 percent of VHA hospital patients express satisfaction with the care they receive, compared to 77 percent of Medicare and Medicaid patients.

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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2011, 11:18:38 am »

Romney's grand idea to fuck over us (we?) veterans isn't going over very well...duh...

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First, you know what voucherization would mean in practice: the vouchers would be inadequate, and become more so over time, so that veterans who don’t make enough money to top them up would fail to receive essential care. Patriotism!
 
Second, the VA is one of the great policy success stories of the past two decades…. So naturally Romney wants to privatize it. Because let’s remember, he’s the serious Republican.

Actually, this is quite consistent with the rest of his health care ideas. Basically, he wants to replace Medicare with Romneycare/Obamacare; this despite the fact that the only reason Romneycare/Obamacare runs through private insurers, rather than being straight single-payers, is as a political compromise. Medicare has lots of problems, but it’s more cost-effective than private insurance — as demonstrated by the utter failure of Medicare Advantage to save, as opposed to costing, money.

So, our serious Republican is committed on ideological grounds to demolishing successful programs and replacing them with conservative fantasies that have failed repeatedly in the past.

And...Really, Mitt? “reversing the defense cuts … of the Obama administration.”???

I think if Mr. Flip-flop-flip-flop-flip-flop-flip-flop-flip-flop-flip-flop-flip-flop-flip-flop-flip-flop-flip-flop-flip-flop-flip-flop-flip-flop-flip-flop-flip-flop would actually take a look he'd find the defense budget has not only increased something like 200 BILLION since 2008?
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2011, 06:01:20 pm »

Now Republican Rick Womack of Tennessee gets to deliver his FUCK YOU! to Muslim members of the military!

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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2011, 05:19:07 pm »

Now Republican Rick Womack of Tennessee gets to deliver his FUCK YOU! to Muslim members of the military!



Good Gawd. The asshole says Muslims in the military should "go back to where they came from"?

WTF?

New Jersey?Huh?Huh?

HOW IN THE HELL DID THIS IDIOT GET IN OFFICE??
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