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« on: November 22, 2011, 05:39:13 pm »

Put the little beggars to work!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J75FihkgzKM&feature=player_embedded
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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2011, 06:08:43 pm »


Like my man say's, "You can't make this stuff up!"(Howey's favorite show Grin) Among the puss bags, Newt is probably  the pussiest. It would seem within the bounds of even the current people like Maddow to discuss his previous crimes/serious indiscretions and humiliation during his time with the Clinton adm. Has that even been touched on...
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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2011, 07:48:28 pm »

in reference to the video slam piece that was done...

Newt never said "Kids"...

He said "students"...

Newt never said anything about employeeing middle school or elementry school students either !!!

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at 44 seconds into the clip...a cunt says

"i'm not sure that someone in middle school should be cleaning up after their classmates. Because what sort of message does that send to that child ?"

Newt never said in that clip anything about using middle school students for that job...

and god forbid that students be given a chance to learn responsibility at the high school level and earn some money....

what a bunch of bullshit....
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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2011, 07:57:28 pm »

in reference to the video slam piece that was done...

Newt never said "Kids"...

He said "students"...

Newt never said anything about employeeing middle school or elementry school students either !!!

and


at 44 seconds into the clip...a cunt says

"i'm not sure that someone in middle school should be cleaning up after their classmates. Because what sort of message does that send to that child ?"

Newt never said in that clip anything about using middle school students for that job...

and god forbid that students be given a chance to learn responsibility at the high school level and earn some money....

what a bunch of bullshit....

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"It is tragic what we do in the poorest neighborhoods, entrapping children in, first of all, in child laws, which are truly stupid," he said.
 
"I tried for years to have a very simple model," he continued. "Most of these schools ought to get rid of the unionized janitors, have one master janitor and pay local students to take care of the school. The kids would actually do work, they would have cash, they'd have pride in the schools, they'd begin the process of rising."

Unfortunately, you are incorrect. Newt was speaking specifically of repealing child labor laws preventing underage children from working so he could get them to work cleaning our schools, etc. I guess he doesn't think 14 is young enough to work...
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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2011, 08:31:20 pm »

I'd  like to  add: Don't expect these kids to be working for minimum wage.
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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2011, 09:14:46 pm »

in reference to the video slam piece that was done...

Newt never said "Kids"...

He said "students"...

Newt never said anything about employeeing middle school or elementry school students either !!!

and


at 44 seconds into the clip...a cunt says

"i'm not sure that someone in middle school should be cleaning up after their classmates. Because what sort of message does that send to that child ?"

Newt never said in that clip anything about using middle school students for that job...

and god forbid that students be given a chance to learn responsibility at the high school level and earn some money....

what a bunch of bullshit....

It helps to know what you're talking about 1)before throwing words like 'cunt' around and 2)before calling something 'bullshit'.


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Gingrich pointed to successful acquaintances as examples of the benefits of beginning a job early in life.

"Go out and talk to people who are really successful in one generation," Gingrich said. "They all started their first job at 9 to 14 years of age. They are selling newspapers, going door to door, washing cars. They were all making money at a very young age. What do we say to poor kids in poor neighborhoods? Don't do it. Remember all the stuff about not getting a hamburger-flipping job? Worst possible advice to give the poor children."

Gingrich said his idea would be "making work worthwhile" for children

it helps, if only, to make sure you are not the cunt, spreading  the bullshit ..

it's pretty clear he was talking about middle-schoolers and elementary students..

unless those 9 yro are super accelerated and in high-school.
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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2011, 09:36:44 pm »

It helps to know what you're talking about 1)before throwing words like 'cunt' around and 2)before calling something 'bullshit'.


it helps, if only, to make sure you are not the cunt, spreading  the bullshit ..

it's pretty clear he was talking about middle-schoolers and elementary students..

unless those 9 yro are super accelerated and in high-school.

Nope...

it is not clear at all...

you won't be hired by a burger flipping company if you are underage...

and nothing is stopping kids from working for themselves at any age...mowing lawns...

babysitting...etc...etc...

Newt is just trying to provide more opportunities for high schooler's and those interested in bettering themselves...

and as i said before....the video was a bullshit slant even after the quotes both you and howie responded with....

interesting how those quotes show up after the fact and still don't lead to where either of you are trying to take it....


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it bothers me none !!!

and i won't be chased away...unlike others

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« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2011, 10:04:36 pm »

Nope...

it is not clear at all...

you won't be hired by a burger flipping company if you are underage...

and nothing is stopping kids from working for themselves at any age...mowing lawns...

babysitting...etc...etc...

Newt is just trying to provide more opportunities for high schooler's and those interested in bettering themselves...

and as i said before....the video was a bullshit slant even after the quotes both you and howie responded with....

interesting how those quotes show up after the fact and still don't lead to where either of you are trying to take it....


yes i don't search the web for news stories...i only interact with whatever the two or three of you offer...i don't go hunting

for extra info generally...i work with whatever you have to offer...


i am a fan of debating...not so much arguing...but i enjoy conversations and communication...

i hold none of you any higher in regards than the other...and i don't give a fuck where you place me !!!


i will be me...draw correlations with me to whomever you wish..."lilboh"

it bothers me none !!!

and i won't be chased away...unlike others



I don't have to 'chase' you away, I can just dump you and forget about you like any other annoyance if I chose to.. so please spare me the 'woe is me,I'll never be hungry again' Scarlett..

you won't be hired by a burger flipping company if you are underage... sure, which is why he wants to get rid of those 'stupid' child labor laws.. duh.

as for the rest, if you don't want to admit Newt was talking about 9-14 yro when he singled that age group out, then more power to ya.. I like some of Fafa's delusions as well.. so adding yours to  them only makes my life more colorful..
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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2011, 05:07:08 am »

I don't have to 'chase' you away, I can just dump you and forget about you like any other annoyance if I chose to.. so please spare me the 'woe is me,I'll never be hungry again' Scarlett..

you won't be hired by a burger flipping company if you are underage... sure, which is why he wants to get rid of those 'stupid' child labor laws.. duh.

as for the rest, if you don't want to admit Newt was talking about 9-14 yro when he singled that age group out, then more power to ya.. I like some of Fafa's delusions as well.. so adding yours to  them only makes my life more colorful..



so....you are all for the keeping of stupid child labor laws...

the man keeps you down and you in turn keep the kids down...?....is that how this works ?
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so....you are all for the keeping of stupid child labor laws...

the man keeps you down and you in turn keep the kids down...?....is that how this works ?

I don't find your questions to be serious. It's almost as if you're playing a role... and I don't really feel like playing that role with you right now..

sorry.
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« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2011, 02:47:30 pm »

I don't find your questions to be serious. It's almost as if you're playing a role... and I don't really feel like playing that role with you right now..

sorry.

it's ok...

i was just reacting to the original video post and its content only....

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« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2011, 06:25:14 pm »

I don't find your questions to be serious. It's almost as if you're playing a role... and I don't really feel like playing that role with you right now..

sorry.

I answered that earlier, while you were out.


Yet, boh does provide a bit of humor around here, so of course he's welcome. Think of the crazy old senile bigot uncle that farts during the holidays.
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« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2011, 06:26:08 pm »

Think of the crazy old senile bigot uncle that farts during the holidays.

So....how's Darth doing lately? Grin
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« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2011, 11:27:03 pm »

So what is it that's really the issue, Newt saying he wanted to repeal child labor laws or that he wanted kids to do stuff at school.

I can see you blowing your stacks about repealing child labor laws, although the actual effects of that would be minimal, but what's wrong with having kids do shit at school, like clean up?  I think that's a good way to start learning some real basic skills.  Everybody, and I mean everybody, should know how to push a broom, mop a floor, or buff a hallway.  If that is what you find offensive I admit I don't get that.
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« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2011, 09:13:28 am »

So what is it that's really the issue, Newt saying he wanted to repeal child labor laws or that he wanted kids to do stuff at school.

Funny. I always thought kids went to school to learn and gain social skills. When I grew up, we did chores at home to learn responsibility. But, of course, you guys didn't have that problem, don't you. I'm sure all respectable Republican children had illegal Mexican maids to clean their rooms and illegal Mexican gardeners to rake the leaves.  Wink
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