They told me if I voted for John McCain...

[lil mike]

Nah...another lie!

more...

You've become quite incoherent.

Your quote from me:

The ban was entirely legal, just not constitutional.

Was incomplete and had nothing to do with the subject.  We were talking about Citizens United.

The ban was entirely legal, just not constitutional.  Really... still defending movie bans.  Kagan agreed that the law could ban books to.  Do you think that would have been "legit?"

And somehow you decided to morph my response to one on the recess.

he Justice Department is publicly rebutting Republican criticism of the legality of President Barack Obama's recent recess appointments of a national consumer watchdog and other officials.

The department released a 23-page legal opinion Thursday summarizing the advice it gave the White House before the Jan. 4 appointments. GOP leaders have argued the Senate was not technically in recess when Obama acted so the regular Senate confirmation process should have been followed.

Assistant Attorney General Virginia Seitz wrote that the president has authority to make such appointments because the Senate is on a 20-day recess, even though it has held periodic pro forma sessions in which no business is conducted. Seitz argued the pro forma sessions – some with as few as one member present – have not been sufficient for the chamber to exercise its constitutional authority to advise and consent to normal presidential nominations.

The Justice official who wrote the opinion, Seitz, heads the department's Office of Legal Counsel, which is empowered to provide binding legal opinions to the executive branch.

Her new memo cites a Justice Department legal opinion from President George W. Bush's Republican administration in justifying Obama's recent appointments. The Bush administration opinion from 2004 says that a recess during a session of the Senate can meet constitutional requirements for permitting the president to make recess appointments as long as the recess is of sufficient length. Seitz noted that the last five presidents have made recess appointments during recesses of 14 days or less.

Are you on medication again?

[Howey]

You've become quite incoherent.

Nah...just replied to the wrongo topic. It's hard to keep up with all this proving you wrongo stuff lately. But I've fixt it.

[lil mike]

Nah...just replied to the wrongo topic. It's hard to keep up with all this proving you wrongo stuff lately. But I've fixt it.

Proving me wrong?  You do know that simply calling me a liar over and over is not the same thing as proving me wrong.  I'd leave it up to the readers to decide, but you seem to have done a rather effective job of running them off.

[Howey]

You do know that simply calling me a liar over and over is not the same thing as proving me wrong.

Worked for you and Mickey, didn't it?

I'd leave it up to the readers to decide, but you seem to have done a rather effective job of running them off.

Who'd I run off? More or less than you at the muche?

[Howey]

Hah!

Where In the World Is John Boehner?

and...

[uselesslegs]

It was BS when Reid pulled it and it's BS now.  16 times under Democrats and 197 times for the GOP.  If there's cause or reason for legitimate worry of an appointment, I can see this perhaps being used to muddy up the waters until it can be addressed by a committee or hearing.  Otherwise, it's a BS abuse of power that does nothing but debilitate our ability to proceed forward with the nations business.

197 times...really?  I mean, come the fuck on.

[lil mike]

Worked for you and Mickey, didn't it?

Worked for me and Mickey...  what is it exactly that "worked?"  What did Mickey and I team up to do?

Who'd I run off? More or less than you at the muche?

I was thinking of Puffy.  Where is she?  And you did seem to run off your buddy Burke, after working so hard to get him here.  Great job expanding the place!

[lil mike]

It was BS when Reid pulled it and it's BS now.  16 times under Democrats and 197 times for the GOP.  If there's cause or reason for legitimate worry of an appointment, I can see this perhaps being used to muddy up the waters until it can be addressed by a committee or hearing.  Otherwise, it's a BS abuse of power that does nothing but debilitate our ability to proceed forward with the nations business.

197 times...really?  I mean, come the fuck on.

If that's your issue, you totally missed any point I was trying to make.  I don't care about legitimate and legal recess appointments.  I care about the President violating the constitution (again).  If you're just concerned about the number of recess appointments and which President did the most, than you can't see the forest for the recess appointments.  The only important issue (IMHO) is that the President made a recess appointment where there was no recess.

[Howey]

If that's your issue, you totally missed any point I was trying to make.  I don't care about legitimate and legal recess appointments.  I care about the President violating the constitution (again).  If you're just concerned about the number of recess appointments and which President did the most, than you can't see the forest for the recess appointments.  The only important issue (IMHO) is that the President made a recess appointment where there was no recess.

 According to your buddy Eric Cantor congress was in recess when the appointment was made. See above.

[Howey]

Worked for me and Mickey...  what is it exactly that "worked?"  What did Mickey and I team up to do?


I was thinking of Puffy.  Where is she?

Don't know. Ask her on the muche.

And you did seem to run off your buddy Burke, after working so hard to get him here.

Sure...although I'm not happy Shannon left (and banned me from viewing his FB and Twitter pages), I make no excuse and have no shame for potentially exposing him as a racist. He could have defended his words, ya know...

Great job expanding the place!

Hey, thanks! And thanks for all your help!

[ekg]

  If you're just concerned about the number of recess appointments and which President did the most, than you can't see the forest for the recess appointments. .

yeah, that's not the number of recess appointments, that the number of 'secret' hold ups by this GOP..

it was done 16 times under Democrats and 197 times for the GOP..

that's his point, it was bullshit with both sides did it.. and this GOP is abusing it's power 197 times..

 and I love how Obama beating Cantor at his own game by counting  pro-forma sessions as a 'recess' is unconstitutional to you, but water boarding is just zippity-doo-dah fine..

[lil mike]

According to your buddy Eric Cantor congress was in recess when the appointment was made. See above.

I saw above, didn't see where Cantor said that. 

[lil mike]

yeah, that's not the number of recess appointments, that the number of 'secret' hold ups by this GOP..

it was done 16 times under Democrats and 197 times for the GOP..

that's his point, it was bullshit with both sides did it.. and this GOP is abusing it's power 197 times..

 and I love how Obama beating Cantor at his own game by counting  pro-forma sessions as a 'recess' is unconstitutional to you, but water boarding is just zippity-doo-dah fine..

Secret hold ups?  Totally different issue than what was being discussed in this thread.

Before you get all high and mighty about waterboarding, don't forget that you were definitely in the pro torture camp.

do I mind the torture? no..if there is an emminet threat whether that be a nuke in a basement or a sicko who kidnapped a child..... if the only way to get the info is to torture then do it..

do I want it on the news every 15 mins? no..... I know the CIA does their "Bond/Bourne" things and I'm fine with knowing but not knowing...

and if we're going do water boarding then we should be ok with OUR guys getting water boarded.....so quit dicking around and answer the fucking question Claire.....

If it's ok for us to do it their guys, is it ok for them to do it to ours?

and where is the line?  If it's my kid being held by the pedo or my town with the bomb there is no line IMO.....start with WB and then go to finger removal,hand removal,nut removal.. whatever...

but if it's my kid being held by an enemy gov't/terrorists? The line is nothing over the GC.... But I can admit my hypocrisy...... can you?

but at the same time, I agree  that it is unreasonable for me to expect someone to follow the rules of the game when I don't....

It's a conundrum...but to say that WB doesn't really hurt someone is bullshit... it's torture, it my not kill you, but neither did the 'rape-rooms' Iraqis used to force women to give up info,blackmail, or force cooperation.....

you musta missed where I said I am for torturing if there is an imminent threat...

but I'm not for and never would be just labeling someone a terrorist and doing with them what the gov't pleases...

So what do I conclude from that? 

[lil mike]

Don't know. Ask her on the muche.

Sure...although I'm not happy Shannon left (and banned me from viewing his FB and Twitter pages), I make no excuse and have no shame for potentially exposing him as a racist. He could have defended his words, ya know...

Hey, thanks! And thanks for all your help!

So you are not going to tell me what "worked" for Mickey and I?

So Puffy just left here and never gave an explanation?

You totally blew an opportunity with Shannon.  By FB and twittering that he's a racist, he had to ban you; you were threatening his employability.   

Now when are you going to fix the image in my post?

[ekg]

Secret hold ups?  Totally different issue than what was being discussed in this thread.

are you medicated?  The line of discussion was started by you..you were whing about the recess appointment.. we were talking about the the 'pro-forma' session.. Chuck said it was BS when Reid did it and it's BS now.. but the gOP has really abused it's power by doing it 197 times compared to Reid 16 times..

there would be no need for recess appointment or pro-forma sessions if the GOP didn't abuse their power with all the secret holds on the nominations..

are you ill?

seriously, you're too busy thinking you're being 'obtuse' in one thread and you're missing the 1+1=2 here.. It's hard to believe you've lost the ability to follow more than one line of discussion.. didn't I teach you anything?

Before you get all high and mighty about waterboarding, don't forget that you were definitely in the pro torture camp.


So what do I conclude from that? 

umm, that I'm for torturing someone if they have my kid.. or if there is a bomb in the basement and we need to know how to turn it off?

nice try in getting around your hypocrisy... but it's still there.. you are fine with GWB's lawyer telling him he can torture, but let Obama's DOJ tell him he can make a recess appointment and you go all 'that's unconstitutional'...because the weight of Obama's is soooo much more destructive... HA! you're partsian is showing Dear. HA!

btw, you really need a little less drinky-poo when you're reading/replying... you've got a serious PUI issue going on here.. because what I said in those clips you copied, is pretty easy to understand