They told me if I voted for John McCain...

[lil mike]

How many times did Bush do that with his signing statements? Were you clamboring for impeachment then?

I wasn't clamoring for impeachment then or now.  That was from your post.

The difference is Obama is a constitutional lawyer. He knows the Constitution and what violates it. He's a better person and President than Bush, who was stupid and had no idea what the Constitution contained.

Again, it's back to "I trust Obama."

We'll although he wasn't a constitutional lawyer, he did teach it.  I wonder how much stuck?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/04/18/obama_2008_bush_used_signing_statements_to_accumulate_more_power.html

"That's not part of his power, but this is part of the whole theory of George Bush that he can make laws as he goes along. I disagree with that. I taught the Constitution for 10 years. I believe in the Constitution and I will obey the Constitution of the United States. We're not going to use signing statements as a way of doing an end-run around Congress," then-Senator Obama said as a presidential candidate in 2008.

[Howey]

We're not going to use signing statements as a way of doing an end-run around Congress," then-Senator Obama said as a presidential candidate in 2008.

Looks like he isn't!

...although he did not support all of it, changes made by Congress after negotiations with the White House had satisfied most of his concerns and had given him enough latitude to manage counterterrorism and foreign policy in keeping with administration principles. […]
 
The White House had said that the legislation could lead to an improper military role in overseeing detention and court proceedings and could infringe on the president’s authority in dealing with terrorism suspects. But it said that Mr. Obama could interpret the statute in a way that would preserve his authority.

The president, for example, said that he would never authorize the indefinite military detention of American citizens, because “doing so would break with our most important traditions and values as a nation.” He also said he would reject a “rigid across-the-board requirement” that suspects be tried in military courts rather than civilian courts.

Hmm...another lie repudiated!

[lil mike]

Looks like he isn't!

How do you figure?

Hmm...another lie repudiated!

Which lie are you talking about, Obama's?

[Howey]

How do you figure?


Which lie are you talking about, Obama's?

Of course not. Yours!

[lil mike]

Of course not. Yours!

What was my lie?

[lil mike]

...The President would violate the constitution by making illegal appointments.

And they were right!

http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/playing-politics-with-the-constitution-and-the-law/

Playing Politics with the Constitution and the Law

Did Obama have the authority to make the Cordray and the NLRB appointments, since the Senate is technically not in recess? And will the president’s shift from bipartisan conciliator to partisan agitator pay off?

My response:
All of Obama’s appointments yesterday are illegal under the Constitution. And, in addition, as too little noted by the media, his appointment of Richard Cordray to head the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) is legally futile. Under the plain language of the Dodd-Frank Act that created the CFPB, Cordray will have no authority whatsoever.

Yesterday, Professors John Yoo and Richard Epstein, writing separately, made it crystal clear that the president, under Article II, section 2, may make temporary recess appointments, but only when the Senate is in recess. Add in Article I, section 5, and it’s plain that the Senate is presently not in recess, just as it wasn’t under Senate Democrats when George W. Bush wanted to make recess appointments. The difference here is that Bush respected those constitutional provisions while Obama — never a constitutional law professor but only a part-time instructor – ignores them as politically inconvenient. Attempts by Obama’s apologists to say the Senate is not in session are pure sophistry and, in the case of Harry Reid, rank hypocrisy, as this morning’s Wall Street Journal brings out.

[Howey]

I quit reading after "little noted by the press", cuz this stories all over the place.

I also knew you'd be crying about it here, with "little note" of the extreme methods used (by the Republicans, der) to make it look like Congress was "in session".

Any reference of Bush respecting the Constitution, especially considering his record number of recess appointments, is hilarious!

[ekg]

...The President would violate the constitution by making illegal appointments.

bullshit.. total and utter bullshit..

I'll give you  that he didn't follow the  clinton started, republican practiced, "3-day" rule on this.. but you calling it 'illegal' when you never once had an issue when Bush did it,or Regan did it or hell any one did it, is about as petty as you've ever been..

funny, you can't admit you're a hypocrite.. but absolutely are..

[Howey]

bullshit.. total and utter bullshit..

I'll give you  that he didn't follow the  clinton started, republican practiced, "3-day" rule on this.. but you calling it 'illegal' when you never once had an issue when Bush did it,or Regan did it or hell any one did it, is about as petty as you've ever been..

funny, you can't admit you're a hypocrite.. but absolutely are..

What I was talking about...it's pretty sad even the highly non-partial CSPAN calls them out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwlFR84XT0U&feature=player_embedded

I swear...it's like trying to play fair with the playground bullies. Except in this case the playground bullies are more intelligent,

[44nutman]

It is nice to see Congress actually get something done. I guess when it comes to playing partisan politics, they can accomplish something.

Baby steps.

[uselesslegs]

I love, as John Stewart pointed out, it wasn't the indefinite detentions of American Citizens (that Obama, with a disclaimer said he wouldn't do) that got Congress (Republicans) riled (no, they liked that one...dirty fuckin terrorists!)...it was...the recess appointment, done during a non-recess, that was LITERALLY over in 30 seconds...30...fucking...seconds.

It's a game of asshole poker.  "I was watching that!"  "You turned the TV on, walked out of the room 30 seconds later, left to the store, met your girlfriend for some pizza and then came home with 5 minutes of the movie left."  "Yea!, but I was fucking watching that!" *sigh*

[ekg]

the funny thing is, it  was Harry Reid who perfected the pro forma session and Bush just acquiesced .. You'd figure it would have been the GOP to say "Fuck you, I'm doing it anyway"... but no, it was Obama... so now they're pissed because they tried to outwit the Dems, but The Dem in charges just outplayed them... and the GOP realllllly hates that. so now it's time to go crying to mommy about how that bad man beat them at their own game..

[lil mike]

bullshit.. total and utter bullshit..

I'll give you  that he didn't follow the  clinton started, republican practiced, "3-day" rule on this.. but you calling it 'illegal' when you never once had an issue when Bush did it,or Regan did it or hell any one did it, is about as petty as you've ever been..

funny, you can't admit you're a hypocrite.. but absolutely are..

Bush made recess appointments when Congress was actually in recess.  That's the difference.  The constitution permits the president to make recess appointments, but making them when there is no recess is... what would be the word?   Oh yeah, unconstitutional!

I'm sure it's no bother to you though.  After all, you think the constitution is a living document.

[lil mike]

What I was talking about...it's pretty sad even the highly non-partial CSPAN calls them out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwlFR84XT0U&feature=player_embedded

I swear...it's like trying to play fair with the playground bullies. Except in this case the playground bullies are more intelligent,

You do realize that makes my point don't you?

Or...maybe you don't!

[lil mike]

I love, as John Stewart pointed out, it wasn't the indefinite detentions of American Citizens (that Obama, with a disclaimer said he wouldn't do) that got Congress (Republicans) riled (no, they liked that one...dirty fuckin terrorists!)...it was...the recess appointment, done during a non-recess, that was LITERALLY over in 30 seconds...30...fucking...seconds.

It's a game of asshole poker.  "I was watching that!"  "You turned the TV on, walked out of the room 30 seconds later, left to the store, met your girlfriend for some pizza and then came home with 5 minutes of the movie left."  "Yea!, but I was fucking watching that!" *sigh*

Interestingly, your main interest in indefinite detentions of American citizens was in trying to blame Tea Partiers (never mind that the President requested it).